| Traffic issues in and around Ipswich 14:39 - Jan 16 with 7473 views | GeoffSentence |
If only, if only the traffic planners had had the foresight to keep the Ipswich Underground up and running.
I guess we will never see its like again. |  |
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| Traffic issues in and around Ipswich on 14:51 - Jan 16 with 6253 views | Swansea_Blue |
The foresight (in general) was there. 30 years ago people were pointing out that things might get a bit congested with the new estates popping up around Copdock and the airport.
Too late for the underground of course, but I don't think there's been any significant investment in infrastructure since the Orwell Bridge opened in '82. None in the town that I'm aware of (correct me if I'm wrong as I don't get back much).
All they seem to do is mop up year end budgets by banging in traffic lights on roundabouts to try and slow/regulate flow. |  |
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| Traffic issues in and around Ipswich on 14:53 - Jan 16 with 6244 views | Dubtractor |
| Traffic issues in and around Ipswich on 14:51 - Jan 16 by Swansea_Blue |
The foresight (in general) was there. 30 years ago people were pointing out that things might get a bit congested with the new estates popping up around Copdock and the airport.
Too late for the underground of course, but I don't think there's been any significant investment in infrastructure since the Orwell Bridge opened in '82. None in the town that I'm aware of (correct me if I'm wrong as I don't get back much).
All they seem to do is mop up year end budgets by banging in traffic lights on roundabouts to try and slow/regulate flow. |
Lots of money has been spent - whether it is on the right things is another matter.
Big problem is that without bulldozing bits of town there simply isn't the space to improve things. |  |
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| Traffic issues in and around Ipswich on 14:58 - Jan 16 with 6227 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Traffic issues in and around Ipswich on 14:53 - Jan 16 by Dubtractor |
Lots of money has been spent - whether it is on the right things is another matter.
Big problem is that without bulldozing bits of town there simply isn't the space to improve things. |
Yep, minor remodelling but nothing of a scale to really make a difference. You're right though, space is constrained. And I guess money isn't there for a visionary scheme (like a tram network, or reopening the underground - even if it was feasible now, which presumably it isn't).
The northern bypass is the obvious option that keeps cropping up. Not that it would help the town centre much. | |
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| Traffic issues in and around Ipswich on 15:06 - Jan 16 with 6213 views | Dubtractor |
| Traffic issues in and around Ipswich on 14:58 - Jan 16 by Swansea_Blue |
Yep, minor remodelling but nothing of a scale to really make a difference. You're right though, space is constrained. And I guess money isn't there for a visionary scheme (like a tram network, or reopening the underground - even if it was feasible now, which presumably it isn't).
The northern bypass is the obvious option that keeps cropping up. Not that it would help the town centre much. |
I managed to fool someone with the underground page the other day.
Was quite pleased with myself. | |
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| Traffic issues in and around Ipswich on 15:06 - Jan 16 with 6211 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Traffic issues in and around Ipswich on 14:58 - Jan 16 by Swansea_Blue |
Yep, minor remodelling but nothing of a scale to really make a difference. You're right though, space is constrained. And I guess money isn't there for a visionary scheme (like a tram network, or reopening the underground - even if it was feasible now, which presumably it isn't).
The northern bypass is the obvious option that keeps cropping up. Not that it would help the town centre much. |
It would massively help the town centre though. |  |
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| Traffic issues in and around Ipswich on 15:14 - Jan 16 with 6185 views | BackToRussia |
| Traffic issues in and around Ipswich on 14:51 - Jan 16 by Swansea_Blue |
The foresight (in general) was there. 30 years ago people were pointing out that things might get a bit congested with the new estates popping up around Copdock and the airport.
Too late for the underground of course, but I don't think there's been any significant investment in infrastructure since the Orwell Bridge opened in '82. None in the town that I'm aware of (correct me if I'm wrong as I don't get back much).
All they seem to do is mop up year end budgets by banging in traffic lights on roundabouts to try and slow/regulate flow. |
They need to add a couple of bridges over the train line for my money. Need to be able to cut through from Nacton down to Foxhall as easily as possible. |  |
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| Traffic issues in and around Ipswich on 15:15 - Jan 16 with 6181 views | SpruceMoose |
| Traffic issues in and around Ipswich on 14:53 - Jan 16 by Dubtractor |
Lots of money has been spent - whether it is on the right things is another matter.
Big problem is that without bulldozing bits of town there simply isn't the space to improve things. |
Bulldozing eh? I vote we start with Whitton. That way we can have some separation between the town and Claydon. And we would no longer have to know that Whitton exists. |  |
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| Traffic issues in and around Ipswich on 15:45 - Jan 16 with 6151 views | ArnieM |
What this town needs is a NORTHERN BY-PASS.
But of curse it wont happen because it goes through all the "posh bits" surrounding Ipswich , and especially Mr Gummer's farms!
btw this thing about the Bridge always closing during high winds etc. Yip I get it , regarding lorries and high sided vehicles. But why cant cars cross the bridge , at a reduced speed?? |  |
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| Traffic issues in and around Ipswich on 16:02 - Jan 16 with 6116 views | blue_oyster |
The only solution is to restrict private cars into the town. I wonder how many more decades of misery will ensue before they realise this. |  |
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| Traffic issues in and around Ipswich on 16:04 - Jan 16 with 6098 views | ITFC_Forever |
| Traffic issues in and around Ipswich on 15:45 - Jan 16 by ArnieM |
What this town needs is a NORTHERN BY-PASS.
But of curse it wont happen because it goes through all the "posh bits" surrounding Ipswich , and especially Mr Gummer's farms!
btw this thing about the Bridge always closing during high winds etc. Yip I get it , regarding lorries and high sided vehicles. But why cant cars cross the bridge , at a reduced speed?? |
Because the lorry drivers will ignore the warnings and go over anyway. |  |
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| Traffic issues in and around Ipswich on 16:37 - Jan 16 with 6011 views | Sarge |
| Traffic issues in and around Ipswich on 16:02 - Jan 16 by blue_oyster |
The only solution is to restrict private cars into the town. I wonder how many more decades of misery will ensue before they realise this. |
Private cars have already been restricted. That's why the town centre is home to crap shops and little else. The fact the town centre is dying is because it's hard to get there because parking is limited and the town planners are, as a whole, more dense than a neutron star. |  | | |
| Traffic issues in and around Ipswich on 17:15 - Jan 16 with 5962 views | blue_oyster |
| Traffic issues in and around Ipswich on 16:37 - Jan 16 by Sarge |
Private cars have already been restricted. That's why the town centre is home to crap shops and little else. The fact the town centre is dying is because it's hard to get there because parking is limited and the town planners are, as a whole, more dense than a neutron star. |
Not just the tiny enclave of the town centre, but the town as a whole. Hence the streams of cars lined up on choking trunk roads and around queueing to get in. | |
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| Traffic issues in and around Ipswich on 17:22 - Jan 16 with 5951 views | SpruceMoose |
| Traffic issues in and around Ipswich on 17:15 - Jan 16 by blue_oyster |
Not just the tiny enclave of the town centre, but the town as a whole. Hence the streams of cars lined up on choking trunk roads and around queueing to get in. |
Do you not drive then? | |
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| Traffic issues in and around Ipswich on 18:02 - Jan 16 with 5912 views | Clapham_Junction |
| Traffic issues in and around Ipswich on 16:37 - Jan 16 by Sarge |
Private cars have already been restricted. That's why the town centre is home to crap shops and little else. The fact the town centre is dying is because it's hard to get there because parking is limited and the town planners are, as a whole, more dense than a neutron star. |
To be fair, I don't think the town planners have that much influence - we have a quite passive planning system and they're there basically to say yes or no to developers. Also, the planning and transport responsibilities are held by two different authorities (the borough council and the county council), which probably doesn't help matters.
Compare that to somewhere like Germany where a town the size of Sudbury has a team of 10 planners who actively design and plan the town's development and have responsibility for all aspects of planning, not just land use. |  | | |
| Traffic issues in and around Ipswich on 18:04 - Jan 16 with 5899 views | blue_oyster |
| Traffic issues in and around Ipswich on 17:22 - Jan 16 by SpruceMoose |
Do you not drive then? |
Only if I have to. It’s not a leisure pursuit. | |
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| Traffic issues in and around Ipswich on 19:08 - Jan 16 with 5851 views | stonojnr |
| Traffic issues in and around Ipswich on 17:22 - Jan 16 by SpruceMoose |
Do you not drive then? |
tbf no-one who lives in Ipswich should ever need to drive into Ipswich, even at the boundary edge you are no more than 2-3miles from the actual town centre, and yet people do all the time, and then moan about the traffic and the hold ups, and demand more and more roads are built, whilst not understanding they are as much of the problem as the congestion they moan about.
build a northern bypass, wont make a patch of difference on the amount of traffic sitting on Star Lane | | | |
| Traffic issues in and around Ipswich on 22:53 - Jan 16 with 5681 views | witchdoctor |
| Traffic issues in and around Ipswich on 16:04 - Jan 16 by ITFC_Forever |
Because the lorry drivers will ignore the warnings and go over anyway. |
not if they were subject to a hefty fine and points on their licence if they chose to do that. |  | | |
| Traffic issues in and around Ipswich on 22:58 - Jan 16 with 5668 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Traffic issues in and around Ipswich on 19:08 - Jan 16 by stonojnr |
tbf no-one who lives in Ipswich should ever need to drive into Ipswich, even at the boundary edge you are no more than 2-3miles from the actual town centre, and yet people do all the time, and then moan about the traffic and the hold ups, and demand more and more roads are built, whilst not understanding they are as much of the problem as the congestion they moan about.
build a northern bypass, wont make a patch of difference on the amount of traffic sitting on Star Lane |
Why shouldn't people be able to drive into town when they choose? | |
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| Traffic issues in and around Ipswich on 23:04 - Jan 16 with 5654 views | BackToRussia |
| Traffic issues in and around Ipswich on 22:58 - Jan 16 by Lord_Lucan |
Why shouldn't people be able to drive into town when they choose? |
Because a lot more people live here than they used to, and a lot more of those people as a percentage are car owners, meaning there are simply way, way more cars on the road now than there ever has been. And the roads are basically the same and can't cope with it. | |
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| Traffic issues in and around Ipswich on 23:24 - Jan 16 with 5623 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Traffic issues in and around Ipswich on 23:04 - Jan 16 by BackToRussia |
Because a lot more people live here than they used to, and a lot more of those people as a percentage are car owners, meaning there are simply way, way more cars on the road now than there ever has been. And the roads are basically the same and can't cope with it. |
That's a planning problem, not the right to drive your car problem.
People need to get from a - b | |
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| Traffic issues in and around Ipswich on 23:38 - Jan 16 with 5606 views | BackToRussia |
| Traffic issues in and around Ipswich on 23:24 - Jan 16 by Lord_Lucan |
That's a planning problem, not the right to drive your car problem.
People need to get from a - b |
But there's only an extent to which you can plan. Congestion is just too many people using the system. Look at LA. It's got the stage where there's always going to be queues. | |
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| Traffic issues in and around Ipswich on 23:45 - Jan 16 with 5599 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Traffic issues in and around Ipswich on 23:38 - Jan 16 by BackToRussia |
But there's only an extent to which you can plan. Congestion is just too many people using the system. Look at LA. It's got the stage where there's always going to be queues. |
The aforementioned northern bypass would help. A lot of traffic is going through town in order to get to b. If I am going to Nodge I would rather be able to head to Martlesham to get there rather than go towards town.
I still say though you should be able to drive into town should you want to - although to be fair I would be happy to get a taxi if I were just shopping. | |
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| Traffic issues in and around Ipswich on 23:48 - Jan 16 with 5589 views | BackToRussia |
| Traffic issues in and around Ipswich on 23:45 - Jan 16 by Lord_Lucan |
The aforementioned northern bypass would help. A lot of traffic is going through town in order to get to b. If I am going to Nodge I would rather be able to head to Martlesham to get there rather than go towards town.
I still say though you should be able to drive into town should you want to - although to be fair I would be happy to get a taxi if I were just shopping. |
Yeah building new roads/opening up new routes definitely the way to go. They should build more footbridges to avoid pedestrians stopping traffic too stuff like that. It's bonkers you can stop 50 cars as one pedestrian for a minute. | |
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| Traffic issues in and around Ipswich on 23:50 - Jan 16 with 5585 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Traffic issues in and around Ipswich on 23:48 - Jan 16 by BackToRussia |
Yeah building new roads/opening up new routes definitely the way to go. They should build more footbridges to avoid pedestrians stopping traffic too stuff like that. It's bonkers you can stop 50 cars as one pedestrian for a minute. |
They should build an underpass system on Princess St near The Curve Bar | |
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