| League table based on this season's spending.... 22:33 - Mar 21 with 10052 views | Bloots |
.....compared to actual current positions:
1. Boro £55.5M (Actual 6, minus 5 places)
2. Leeds £28.5M (14, -12)
3. Wolves £24.5M (1, +2)
4. Fulham £22M (4, 0)
5. Hull £20M (18, -13)
6. Birmingham £17.5M (22, -16)
7. Sheff Weds £15M (17, -10)
8. Scum £15M (13, -5)
9. Reading £14.5M (20, -11)
10. Bristol £13.5M (7, +3)
11. Cardiff £12.5M (2, +9)
12. Derby £12M (5, +7)
13. Nottingham £6.5M (16, +3)
14. Barnsley £6.5M (21, -7)
15. Brentford £6M (11, +4)
16. Sheff U £5.5M (9, +7)
17. Ipswich £3.5M (12 +5)
18. Villa £3M (4, +14)
19. PNE £2M (8, +11)
20. Sunderland £1.5M (24, -4)
21. QPR £0.5M (15, +6)
22. Millwall £0.5M (10, +12)
23. Burton £0.5M (23, 0)
24. Bolton £0M (19, +5)
Over performers, Villa, Millwall, Preston and Cardiff
Under performers, Birmingham, Hull, Leeds and Reading.
I don't trust all the figures (ours is too high for a start) but on the basis that they all come from the same source they should be correct relatively.
It doesn't take into account incoming fees, but still shows the relative spending power of the clubs.
Highlights the gulf between the top and bottom halves of the spending league. [Post edited 21 Mar 2018 22:39]
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| League table based on this season's spending.... on 13:35 - Mar 22 with 1890 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| League table based on this season's spending.... on 10:01 - Mar 22 by chicoazul |
Why would you come to that conclusion?? What that table shows is that having a budget is secondary, hugely, to having a good Manager. It's no coincidence that half the top 6 atm is Warnock Bruce and Pulis. |
No, what that shows is taking one seasons transfer fees in isolation is a pretty rubbish measure - especially when the numbers themselves are dubious |  |
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| League table based on this season's spending.... on 13:36 - Mar 22 with 1890 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| League table based on this season's spending.... on 13:24 - Mar 22 by Keaneish |
What??? You mean there are other managers out there who can make teams successful in the league regardless of their budget? Not possible according to some. |
Ah that old chestnut, despite the fact that pretty much no-one has argued anything of the sort
Heard back from your accountant yet? | |
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| Depends what you mean by successful..... on 13:38 - Mar 22 with 1889 views | Bloots |
| League table based on this season's spending.... on 13:24 - Mar 22 by Keaneish |
What??? You mean there are other managers out there who can make teams successful in the league regardless of their budget? Not possible according to some. |
.....apart from Villa, who we all accept have spent hugely recently, then the top 7 have all spent over £12m this season.
So you could just say that unless you spend that amount you won't get in the play offs.
Stats can be used to prove anything.
9/10 tossers know that. | |
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| League table based on this season's spending.... on 18:22 - Mar 22 with 1845 views | brightlingseabee |
| League table based on this season's spending.... on 22:39 - Mar 21 by mos |
It is interesting, and you can pretty much draw to the conclusion that spending money on a football club will put you higher up the table, although that’s not to say a cheaper, less funded team can sneak into the playoffs.
Also, Aston Villa have spent lots of money the past 2 seasons, they may have not spent much this season, but spent crazy amounts on Hogan, McCormack and Kodjia. Which is worth considering in this table. |
Villa spending less than Brentford? I don't think so, there wage bill alone is over £50mil a year ours is £10mil |  | | |
| League table based on this season's spending.... on 19:33 - Mar 22 with 1812 views | Keaneish |
| League table based on this season's spending.... on 13:36 - Mar 22 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Ah that old chestnut, despite the fact that pretty much no-one has argued anything of the sort
Heard back from your accountant yet? |
"no-one has argued anything of the sort..." - i must have been on another forum for the last 2 years then.
Re: the accountant.
I don't remember having that conversation with you, or in fact any other conversation so what i assume is a jibe is a little bizarre but to answer your question, no, i have a new accountant now as i need a more dedicated service given my business needs have changed. |  |
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| Depends what you mean by successful..... on 19:44 - Mar 22 with 1807 views | Keaneish |
| Depends what you mean by successful..... on 13:38 - Mar 22 by Bloots |
.....apart from Villa, who we all accept have spent hugely recently, then the top 7 have all spent over £12m this season.
So you could just say that unless you spend that amount you won't get in the play offs.
Stats can be used to prove anything.
9/10 tossers know that. |
OJ Simpson, who is a big TWTD forum reader, may will likely have a wry smile at your penultimate line. | |
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| League table based on this season's spending.... on 19:53 - Mar 22 with 1801 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| League table based on this season's spending.... on 19:33 - Mar 22 by Keaneish |
"no-one has argued anything of the sort..." - i must have been on another forum for the last 2 years then.
Re: the accountant.
I don't remember having that conversation with you, or in fact any other conversation so what i assume is a jibe is a little bizarre but to answer your question, no, i have a new accountant now as i need a more dedicated service given my business needs have changed. |
Or you’ve just failed to grasp what people have actually posted and jumped to conclusions. What most people have quite reasonably pointed out is that Mick is outperforming where Ipswich probably should be based on our budget, and that there is a likelihood therefore than any replacement will struggle to do aswell. I’ve seen very few people claiming that no-one could do such a job - and those that do can safely be ignored in the same way those that froth at the mouth at anything McCarthy says can
Re the accountant - you’ve posted in several threads lately that Evans actually makes money from Ipswich as he uses us to avoid tax. Apparently your accountant would confirm how. Just wondered how the conversation was going? | |
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| League table based on this season's spending.... on 20:00 - Mar 22 with 1798 views | Trequartista |
Steve Bruce totally outperforming McCarthy then? |  |
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| League table based on this season's spending.... on 20:49 - Mar 22 with 1785 views | Keaneish |
| League table based on this season's spending.... on 19:53 - Mar 22 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Or you’ve just failed to grasp what people have actually posted and jumped to conclusions. What most people have quite reasonably pointed out is that Mick is outperforming where Ipswich probably should be based on our budget, and that there is a likelihood therefore than any replacement will struggle to do aswell. I’ve seen very few people claiming that no-one could do such a job - and those that do can safely be ignored in the same way those that froth at the mouth at anything McCarthy says can
Re the accountant - you’ve posted in several threads lately that Evans actually makes money from Ipswich as he uses us to avoid tax. Apparently your accountant would confirm how. Just wondered how the conversation was going? |
That's an interesting insight into how facile this forum has become, the "...and those that do can safely be ignored in the same way those that froth at the mouth at anything McCarthy says can". Safe and sterile, very emblematic of what this club has become.
That's not a criticism, just an observation. Those that offer a wider argument no matter how off the spectrum it may be, are continually shot down by a tight knit core who believe in true supporter values only they are deemed fit to define. There is a modicum of truth to this statement, whichever side of the growing divide we're on. | |
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| League table based on this season's spending.... on 07:54 - Mar 23 with 1733 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| League table based on this season's spending.... on 20:49 - Mar 22 by Keaneish |
That's an interesting insight into how facile this forum has become, the "...and those that do can safely be ignored in the same way those that froth at the mouth at anything McCarthy says can". Safe and sterile, very emblematic of what this club has become.
That's not a criticism, just an observation. Those that offer a wider argument no matter how off the spectrum it may be, are continually shot down by a tight knit core who believe in true supporter values only they are deemed fit to define. There is a modicum of truth to this statement, whichever side of the growing divide we're on. |
Not really sure what that’s all about. Would have thought it was obvious that there are some people with extreme views on both sides, that cannot see any good/bad in anything that Mick does. Therefore in my view their opinions don’t hold much value - but obviously you or others are entitled to disagree
No different to any other subject matter really - be it Brexit, veganism or the correct way to cook an egg | |
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| League table based on this season's spending.... on 08:32 - Mar 23 with 1720 views | mos |
| League table based on this season's spending.... on 10:01 - Mar 22 by chicoazul |
Why would you come to that conclusion?? What that table shows is that having a budget is secondary, hugely, to having a good Manager. It's no coincidence that half the top 6 atm is Warnock Bruce and Pulis. |
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| Depends what you mean by successful..... on 09:00 - Mar 23 with 1712 views | Freddies_Ears |
| Depends what you mean by successful..... on 13:38 - Mar 22 by Bloots |
.....apart from Villa, who we all accept have spent hugely recently, then the top 7 have all spent over £12m this season.
So you could just say that unless you spend that amount you won't get in the play offs.
Stats can be used to prove anything.
9/10 tossers know that. |
Villa, where John Terry is on well over 100k a week... | | | |
| League table based on this season's spending.... on 11:08 - Mar 23 with 1696 views | Keaneish |
| League table based on this season's spending.... on 07:54 - Mar 23 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Not really sure what that’s all about. Would have thought it was obvious that there are some people with extreme views on both sides, that cannot see any good/bad in anything that Mick does. Therefore in my view their opinions don’t hold much value - but obviously you or others are entitled to disagree
No different to any other subject matter really - be it Brexit, veganism or the correct way to cook an egg |
It was just an observation about how this forum has panned out in the last 12 months.Even relatively liberal views toward Mick are now being termed as extreme. I think we can all agree on one thing though, no Town manager has ever divided opinion as much.
Anyway, the sun is out, the Panini sticker book came out yesterday, the World Cup is around the corner and August will soon be here hopefully with a new era beckoning. | |
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