| Now I don't have anything against the Queen 11:49 - May 19 with 7985 views | tractordownsouth |
But it's funny how often the people moaning about " elites" and immigrant families sponging off the state are the same ones who love the royal family [Post edited 19 May 2018 12:11]
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| Now I don't have anything against the Queen on 11:53 - May 19 with 4458 views | J2BLUE |
One thing that baffles me is that we live in an age of everyone is equal (quite rightfully) and then we have the royal family. Markle is going to be 'Her Royal Highness'. Highness. It just amazes me.
If you are pro monarchy, you do not think everyone is equal. That is fact. |  |
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| Now I don't have anything against the Queen on 12:07 - May 19 with 4406 views | Ryorry |
Yet often they aren't the "same ones"  |  |
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| Now I don't have anything against the Queen on 12:08 - May 19 with 4401 views | Ryorry |
| Now I don't have anything against the Queen on 11:53 - May 19 by J2BLUE |
One thing that baffles me is that we live in an age of everyone is equal (quite rightfully) and then we have the royal family. Markle is going to be 'Her Royal Highness'. Highness. It just amazes me.
If you are pro monarchy, you do not think everyone is equal. That is fact. |
Sorry J but that's nonsense (edit - I mean your last para). [Post edited 19 May 2018 12:08]
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| Now I don't have anything against the Queen on 12:10 - May 19 with 4379 views | J2BLUE |
| Now I don't have anything against the Queen on 12:08 - May 19 by Ryorry |
Sorry J but that's nonsense (edit - I mean your last para). [Post edited 19 May 2018 12:08]
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It's self evidenced. | |
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| Now I don't have anything against the Queen on 12:16 - May 19 with 4349 views | Ryorry |
| Now I don't have anything against the Queen on 12:10 - May 19 by J2BLUE |
It's self evidenced. |
No, they're doing a job, same as, e.g., Presidents are doing a job which they're paid for.
Queen is a better person than me, some others might be "better" than me, I don't know. I'm pretty confident I'm "better" than Beatrice and Eugene tho! | |
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| Now I don't have anything against the Queen on 12:17 - May 19 with 4337 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Now I don't have anything against the Queen on 11:53 - May 19 by J2BLUE |
One thing that baffles me is that we live in an age of everyone is equal (quite rightfully) and then we have the royal family. Markle is going to be 'Her Royal Highness'. Highness. It just amazes me.
If you are pro monarchy, you do not think everyone is equal. That is fact. |
Does anyone actually think all people are all equal?
I believe people should all be valued but even then would you put the same value on everyone?
If so, I look forward to the outcry the next time anyone discloses wage disparities or transfer fees. |  |
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| Now I don't have anything against the Queen on 12:17 - May 19 with 4333 views | J2BLUE |
| Now I don't have anything against the Queen on 12:16 - May 19 by Ryorry |
No, they're doing a job, same as, e.g., Presidents are doing a job which they're paid for.
Queen is a better person than me, some others might be "better" than me, I don't know. I'm pretty confident I'm "better" than Beatrice and Eugene tho! |
In my opinion that is complete rubbish.
To me it's fairly black and white but I will say that is my opinion and people can certainly disagree. | |
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| Now I don't have anything against the Queen on 12:18 - May 19 with 4326 views | buoyant |
| Now I don't have anything against the Queen on 12:16 - May 19 by Ryorry |
No, they're doing a job, same as, e.g., Presidents are doing a job which they're paid for.
Queen is a better person than me, some others might be "better" than me, I don't know. I'm pretty confident I'm "better" than Beatrice and Eugene tho! |
Better in what respect? |  |
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| Now I don't have anything against the Queen on 12:20 - May 19 with 4314 views | Ryorry |
| Now I don't have anything against the Queen on 12:18 - May 19 by buoyant |
Better in what respect? |
As a human being, with qualities of morality, self-discipline, intelligence etc. | |
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| Now I don't have anything against the Queen on 12:21 - May 19 with 4304 views | itfcjoe |
| Now I don't have anything against the Queen on 12:16 - May 19 by Ryorry |
No, they're doing a job, same as, e.g., Presidents are doing a job which they're paid for.
Queen is a better person than me, some others might be "better" than me, I don't know. I'm pretty confident I'm "better" than Beatrice and Eugene tho! |
I just find it sad people can't enjoy an event like this today - this is something the British do very well. The whole world is watching today with envy, not often that happens. |  |
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| Now I don't have anything against the Queen on 12:21 - May 19 with 4292 views | Ryorry |
| Now I don't have anything against the Queen on 12:17 - May 19 by J2BLUE |
In my opinion that is complete rubbish.
To me it's fairly black and white but I will say that is my opinion and people can certainly disagree. |
Don't really care what anyone else thinks tbh! | |
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| Now I don't have anything against the Queen on 12:21 - May 19 with 4290 views | J2BLUE |
| Now I don't have anything against the Queen on 12:17 - May 19 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Does anyone actually think all people are all equal?
I believe people should all be valued but even then would you put the same value on everyone?
If so, I look forward to the outcry the next time anyone discloses wage disparities or transfer fees. |
All born equal. Obviously throughout a life things will shape that life and people become 'unequal'. Babies being born and instantly labelled 'HRH' is amazing in 2018.
Harry doesn't look too happy. I guess he's just emotional and nervous rather than actually unhappy. Probably isn't used to the spotlight in such a focused and intense way. | |
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| Now I don't have anything against the Queen on 12:23 - May 19 with 4276 views | J2BLUE |
| Now I don't have anything against the Queen on 12:21 - May 19 by itfcjoe |
I just find it sad people can't enjoy an event like this today - this is something the British do very well. The whole world is watching today with envy, not often that happens. |
I've kept off the official thread so you can enjoy it.
I can't just put my principles aside to 'enjoy it'. | |
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| Now I don't have anything against the Queen on 12:26 - May 19 with 4259 views | brazil1982 |
| Now I don't have anything against the Queen on 12:21 - May 19 by itfcjoe |
I just find it sad people can't enjoy an event like this today - this is something the British do very well. The whole world is watching today with envy, not often that happens. |
Lots of people eager to slag of the British despite being British themselves. So may people eager to criticise and hate, yet still take notice the wedding is taking place. |  | | |
| Now I don't have anything against the Queen on 12:26 - May 19 with 4258 views | Ryorry |
| Now I don't have anything against the Queen on 12:21 - May 19 by J2BLUE |
All born equal. Obviously throughout a life things will shape that life and people become 'unequal'. Babies being born and instantly labelled 'HRH' is amazing in 2018.
Harry doesn't look too happy. I guess he's just emotional and nervous rather than actually unhappy. Probably isn't used to the spotlight in such a focused and intense way. |
You'll probably say this is rubbish too, but I actually feel sorry for the couple. We wanted our wedding very private, just close family & friends, and were able to do that (just 17 guests). They've got to share it with the public of the world, whether they like it or not. | |
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| Now I don't have anything against the Queen on 12:27 - May 19 with 4249 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Now I don't have anything against the Queen on 12:21 - May 19 by J2BLUE |
All born equal. Obviously throughout a life things will shape that life and people become 'unequal'. Babies being born and instantly labelled 'HRH' is amazing in 2018.
Harry doesn't look too happy. I guess he's just emotional and nervous rather than actually unhappy. Probably isn't used to the spotlight in such a focused and intense way. |
Do you really believe you were born equal with someone in a 3rd world country? Or with an Oxbridge graduate's child? Or with the child of the richest person on the planet?
There is one sense in which we are, yes. In the sight of God we are all equal. However, in terms of opportunities and how they are achieved we most certainly are not. | |
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| Now I don't have anything against the Queen on 12:28 - May 19 with 4248 views | J2BLUE |
| Now I don't have anything against the Queen on 12:26 - May 19 by Ryorry |
You'll probably say this is rubbish too, but I actually feel sorry for the couple. We wanted our wedding very private, just close family & friends, and were able to do that (just 17 guests). They've got to share it with the public of the world, whether they like it or not. |
No I agree, I have nothing against them as individuals. Dare I say, I actually quite like Harry. | |
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| Now I don't have anything against the Queen on 12:29 - May 19 with 4241 views | Simonds92 |
Why wouldnt you support a family that generates billions for the uk economy. The whole sponging of the state stuff is cr*p! They make a lot more money than they cost. | | | |
| Now I don't have anything against the Queen on 12:30 - May 19 with 4235 views | BlueNomad |
| Now I don't have anything against the Queen on 12:21 - May 19 by itfcjoe |
I just find it sad people can't enjoy an event like this today - this is something the British do very well. The whole world is watching today with envy, not often that happens. |
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| Now I don't have anything against the Queen on 12:31 - May 19 with 4232 views | buoyant |
| Now I don't have anything against the Queen on 12:20 - May 19 by Ryorry |
As a human being, with qualities of morality, self-discipline, intelligence etc. |
The concept of inferiority and superiority is what J2 was referring to, no?
We all have different facets, who deems one being better or worse than any other is subjective.
Isn't it compassion, tolerance and love that we should measure ourselves by? Self discipline can inhibit, you don't have to be intelligent to be kind and loving and morality is generally prescriptive.
I think..... | |
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| Now I don't have anything against the Queen on 12:31 - May 19 with 4231 views | WD19 |
When it comes to equality, all of us on this board - without exception - are amongst the luckiest members of the human race to have ever lived.
So where equality is concerned I tend to only listen to those who look downwards towards those less fortunate and ask what can be done to help them. I have little time for those that look upwards and comment. |  | | |
| Now I don't have anything against the Queen on 12:32 - May 19 with 4217 views | J2BLUE |
| Now I don't have anything against the Queen on 12:31 - May 19 by WD19 |
When it comes to equality, all of us on this board - without exception - are amongst the luckiest members of the human race to have ever lived.
So where equality is concerned I tend to only listen to those who look downwards towards those less fortunate and ask what can be done to help them. I have little time for those that look upwards and comment. |
Is it not possible to do both? | |
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| Now I don't have anything against the Queen on 12:32 - May 19 with 4215 views | Steve_M |
You should have done this yesterday. Guaranteed eight pager. |  |
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| Now I don't have anything against the Queen on 12:37 - May 19 with 4180 views | Ryorry |
| Now I don't have anything against the Queen on 12:31 - May 19 by buoyant |
The concept of inferiority and superiority is what J2 was referring to, no?
We all have different facets, who deems one being better or worse than any other is subjective.
Isn't it compassion, tolerance and love that we should measure ourselves by? Self discipline can inhibit, you don't have to be intelligent to be kind and loving and morality is generally prescriptive.
I think..... |
I don't feel inferior or superior to anyone, we are what we are, and I respect and (mostly) like myself, give or take the occasional bit of bad behaviour (no-one's perfect etc!)
And dear me - yes, I meant exactly those kinds of things, simply didn't list them all!!! | |
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| Now I don't have anything against the Queen on 12:40 - May 19 with 4161 views | Darth_Koont |
| Now I don't have anything against the Queen on 11:53 - May 19 by J2BLUE |
One thing that baffles me is that we live in an age of everyone is equal (quite rightfully) and then we have the royal family. Markle is going to be 'Her Royal Highness'. Highness. It just amazes me.
If you are pro monarchy, you do not think everyone is equal. That is fact. |
Not a huge fan of Toby Young (unless it's his memoirs) but he came out with a valid point for the Royal Family:
They're a valuable and practical reminder that life isn't fair. |  |
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