| Bolton Wanderers up for sale for £30 million. What price for Ipswich? 13:07 - Nov 30 with 11774 views | marcus1642 |
Just a bit of conjecture on my behalf. I would say about the same really. |  | | |  |
| Bolton Wanderers up for sale for £30 million. What price for Ipswich? on 13:13 - Nov 30 with 5971 views | IpswichKnight |
Around 25M. ME has had offers in the region of 20M and turned them down. |  | | |
| Bolton Wanderers up for sale for £30 million. What price for Ipswich? on 13:17 - Nov 30 with 5964 views | ElephantintheRoom |
1p or a notional £ is the going rate for a destitute club with no assets and huge debts. And that's if the debt is written off | |
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| Bolton Wanderers up for sale for £30 million. What price for Ipswich? on 13:19 - Nov 30 with 5943 views | clive_baker |
| Bolton Wanderers up for sale for £30 million. What price for Ipswich? on 13:17 - Nov 30 by ElephantintheRoom |
1p or a notional £ is the going rate for a destitute club with no assets and huge debts. And that's if the debt is written off |
"no assets". Care to elaborate? |  |
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| Bolton Wanderers up for sale for £30 million. What price for Ipswich? on 13:21 - Nov 30 with 5944 views | marcus1642 |
| Bolton Wanderers up for sale for £30 million. What price for Ipswich? on 13:13 - Nov 30 by IpswichKnight |
Around 25M. ME has had offers in the region of 20M and turned them down. |
I think Evans stated in a rare interview, that he has had offers, but they did not reflect the "true value" of the football club.
When we are relegated we will be worth evan less. On a financial level, Evans must be getting deeply concerned at our plight. | | | |
| Bolton Wanderers up for sale for £30 million. What price for Ipswich? on 13:26 - Nov 30 with 5934 views | marcus1642 |
| Bolton Wanderers up for sale for £30 million. What price for Ipswich? on 13:19 - Nov 30 by clive_baker |
"no assets". Care to elaborate? |
We don't own our ground, rented from Ipswich borough council, our training facilities are owned by Evans, not the football club.
Our only assets are the players. | | | |
| Bolton Wanderers up for sale for £30 million. What price for Ipswich? on 13:29 - Nov 30 with 5906 views | clive_baker |
| Bolton Wanderers up for sale for £30 million. What price for Ipswich? on 13:26 - Nov 30 by marcus1642 |
We don't own our ground, rented from Ipswich borough council, our training facilities are owned by Evans, not the football club.
Our only assets are the players. |
Correct. So the intangible assets aren't worthless. | |
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| Bolton Wanderers up for sale for £30 million. What price for Ipswich? on 13:30 - Nov 30 with 5898 views | JimmyJazz |
| Bolton Wanderers up for sale for £30 million. What price for Ipswich? on 13:19 - Nov 30 by clive_baker |
"no assets". Care to elaborate? |
Everything goes straight into MEs back pocket init??
Conspiracy Theory #1 |  |
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| Bolton Wanderers up for sale for £30 million. What price for Ipswich? on 13:31 - Nov 30 with 5893 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Bolton Wanderers up for sale for £30 million. What price for Ipswich? on 13:26 - Nov 30 by marcus1642 |
We don't own our ground, rented from Ipswich borough council, our training facilities are owned by Evans, not the football club.
Our only assets are the players. |
The ground / stadium does have an asset value.
We have it on a long lease, and pay a relatively low ground rent.
I also suspect that any deal would include buying the training ground from ME. [Post edited 30 Nov 2018 13:32]
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| Bolton Wanderers up for sale for £30 million. What price for Ipswich? on 13:38 - Nov 30 with 5853 views | monytowbray |
| Bolton Wanderers up for sale for £30 million. What price for Ipswich? on 13:31 - Nov 30 by Marshalls_Mullet |
The ground / stadium does have an asset value.
We have it on a long lease, and pay a relatively low ground rent.
I also suspect that any deal would include buying the training ground from ME. [Post edited 30 Nov 2018 13:32]
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Quite. Plus the only time the land or a stadium a football club owns is going going to be considered as a sellable asset is the point the club's up sh1t creek. Owners buy clubs for football money, not land money in the event everything goes wrong. |  |
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| Bolton Wanderers up for sale for £30 million. What price for Ipswich? on 13:39 - Nov 30 with 5840 views | King_ding_a_lin_g |
| Bolton Wanderers up for sale for £30 million. What price for Ipswich? on 13:38 - Nov 30 by monytowbray |
Quite. Plus the only time the land or a stadium a football club owns is going going to be considered as a sellable asset is the point the club's up sh1t creek. Owners buy clubs for football money, not land money in the event everything goes wrong. |
So a potential buyer isn't going to be attributing too much value to a poxy lease then, are they? |  | | |
| Bolton Wanderers up for sale for £30 million. What price for Ipswich? on 13:40 - Nov 30 with 5839 views | marcus1642 |
| Bolton Wanderers up for sale for £30 million. What price for Ipswich? on 13:29 - Nov 30 by clive_baker |
Correct. So the intangible assets aren't worthless. |
That's the problem with intangible assets. The value is in the eyes of an accountant and 'worth' is open to interpretation. | | | |
| Bolton Wanderers up for sale for £30 million. What price for Ipswich? on 13:42 - Nov 30 with 5832 views | monytowbray |
| Bolton Wanderers up for sale for £30 million. What price for Ipswich? on 13:39 - Nov 30 by King_ding_a_lin_g |
So a potential buyer isn't going to be attributing too much value to a poxy lease then, are they? |
Owning a stadium isn't much of an asset though, that's the point I was making. | |
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| Bolton Wanderers up for sale for £30 million. What price for Ipswich? on 13:45 - Nov 30 with 5825 views | marcus1642 |
| Bolton Wanderers up for sale for £30 million. What price for Ipswich? on 13:39 - Nov 30 by King_ding_a_lin_g |
So a potential buyer isn't going to be attributing too much value to a poxy lease then, are they? |
Quite so. I think the biggest problem would be buying the clubs debt from Evans. | | | |
| Bolton Wanderers up for sale for £30 million. What price for Ipswich? on 13:47 - Nov 30 with 5815 views | giant_stow |
| Bolton Wanderers up for sale for £30 million. What price for Ipswich? on 13:13 - Nov 30 by IpswichKnight |
Around 25M. ME has had offers in the region of 20M and turned them down. |
your comrades have ignored the most interesting post on this thread (if you're genuinely in the know). |  |
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| Bolton Wanderers up for sale for £30 million. What price for Ipswich? on 13:49 - Nov 30 with 5805 views | GlasgowBlue |
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| Bolton Wanderers up for sale for £30 million. What price for Ipswich? on 13:49 - Nov 30 with 5811 views | PhilTWTD |
| Bolton Wanderers up for sale for £30 million. What price for Ipswich? on 13:31 - Nov 30 by Marshalls_Mullet |
The ground / stadium does have an asset value.
We have it on a long lease, and pay a relatively low ground rent.
I also suspect that any deal would include buying the training ground from ME. [Post edited 30 Nov 2018 13:32]
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Town do own the stadium, which as you say has a value, £10 million if I remember from a previous set of accounts, only the land is leased. Agree re training ground. |  | | |
| Bolton Wanderers up for sale for £30 million. What price for Ipswich? on 13:49 - Nov 30 with 5806 views | King_ding_a_lin_g |
| Bolton Wanderers up for sale for £30 million. What price for Ipswich? on 13:42 - Nov 30 by monytowbray |
Owning a stadium isn't much of an asset though, that's the point I was making. |
I suspect the only "value" is in the market value of the playing squad (intangible assets) and the potential to get Premier League millions.
But the business can't sustain itself which would reduce it's value.
I genuinely don't think it's worth anywhere near the £30m mentioned by the OP. | | | |
| Bolton Wanderers up for sale for £30 million. What price for Ipswich? on 13:52 - Nov 30 with 5785 views | PhilTWTD |
| Bolton Wanderers up for sale for £30 million. What price for Ipswich? on 13:45 - Nov 30 by marcus1642 |
Quite so. I think the biggest problem would be buying the clubs debt from Evans. |
The debt would almost certainly be written off in order to facilitate a sale. The loans were never made with the expectation they would be paid back. There would probably be some aspect of the deal that further cash would be payable to ME if and when the club was promoted. | | | |
| Bolton Wanderers up for sale for £30 million. What price for Ipswich? on 13:53 - Nov 30 with 5779 views | IpswichKnight |
| Bolton Wanderers up for sale for £30 million. What price for Ipswich? on 13:49 - Nov 30 by PhilTWTD |
Town do own the stadium, which as you say has a value, £10 million if I remember from a previous set of accounts, only the land is leased. Agree re training ground. |
Do you know what offers have been turned down, am sure I either read or heard that ME has turned down offers of around 20M before but my mind might be going the same way as factuals the older I get! | | | |
| Bolton Wanderers up for sale for £30 million. What price for Ipswich? on 13:53 - Nov 30 with 5777 views | SpruceMoose |
| Bolton Wanderers up for sale for £30 million. What price for Ipswich? on 13:52 - Nov 30 by PhilTWTD |
The debt would almost certainly be written off in order to facilitate a sale. The loans were never made with the expectation they would be paid back. There would probably be some aspect of the deal that further cash would be payable to ME if and when the club was promoted. |
Are you aware if there has been any serious interest Phil, and if so, and idea as to who was interested? Local? Overseas? |  |
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| Bolton Wanderers up for sale for £30 million. What price for Ipswich? on 13:54 - Nov 30 with 5772 views | PhilTWTD |
| Bolton Wanderers up for sale for £30 million. What price for Ipswich? on 13:42 - Nov 30 by monytowbray |
Owning a stadium isn't much of an asset though, that's the point I was making. |
Not sure I see that, the facility is somewhat important to running a club going forward! | | | |
| Bolton Wanderers up for sale for £30 million. What price for Ipswich? on 13:54 - Nov 30 with 5772 views | TheTrueBlue1878 |
They’re in a financial mess. Go and buy their Right Back Pawel Olkowski, from what I’ve read he’s been a revelation for them. |  |
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| Bolton Wanderers up for sale for £30 million. What price for Ipswich? on 13:55 - Nov 30 with 5768 views | PhilTWTD |
| Bolton Wanderers up for sale for £30 million. What price for Ipswich? on 13:53 - Nov 30 by IpswichKnight |
Do you know what offers have been turned down, am sure I either read or heard that ME has turned down offers of around 20M before but my mind might be going the same way as factuals the older I get! |
I've not heard figures but ME said he had had offers a few years back.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/28791885 | | | |
| Bolton Wanderers up for sale for £30 million. What price for Ipswich? on 13:55 - Nov 30 with 5761 views | PhilTWTD |
| Bolton Wanderers up for sale for £30 million. What price for Ipswich? on 13:53 - Nov 30 by SpruceMoose |
Are you aware if there has been any serious interest Phil, and if so, and idea as to who was interested? Local? Overseas? |
ME said there had been but no idea where from or how much.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/28791885 | | | |
| Bolton Wanderers up for sale for £30 million. What price for Ipswich? on 13:57 - Nov 30 with 5748 views | SpruceMoose |
Balls. | |
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