| Blimey! on 18:08 - Apr 17 with 3221 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Blimey! on 17:51 - Apr 17 by GlasgowBlue |
or UKip who add 7% to the no deal total. Plus you will have dyed in the wool Tories who will only vote Tory. Just as you have dyed in the wool Labour voters who will only vote Labour.
Not that I'm advocating No Deal. But based on party policy we have
34% No Deal Brexit
22% Labour's unicorn Brexit
15% Mays deal Brexit
Some form of Brexit 71% VS 25% Remain |
Except that the Labour party MEPs have all come out clearly stating they want a second referendum haven't they which then changes it to:
34% no deal, 15% May's deal and 47% second referendum/remain. Aren't the Greens remain too?
49% some form of Brexit vs 51% remain/second referendum.
Then and when you factor in most of the Conservative party do not want May's deal you really should re-allocate their vote 3 ways, so 39% No deal, 5% May's deal, 56% remain/second vote.
Funny what you can do with statistics if you want to really, isn't it? |  |
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| Blimey! on 18:15 - Apr 17 with 3214 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Blimey! on 18:08 - Apr 17 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Except that the Labour party MEPs have all come out clearly stating they want a second referendum haven't they which then changes it to:
34% no deal, 15% May's deal and 47% second referendum/remain. Aren't the Greens remain too?
49% some form of Brexit vs 51% remain/second referendum.
Then and when you factor in most of the Conservative party do not want May's deal you really should re-allocate their vote 3 ways, so 39% No deal, 5% May's deal, 56% remain/second vote.
Funny what you can do with statistics if you want to really, isn't it? |
People who still believe Labour will offer a second referendum are deluded. They have said they will only offer a second referendum on May's deal. If they win power they will negotiate their own deal and not offer a second referendum.
The leadership has stated this on numerous occasions. |  |
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| Blimey! on 18:16 - Apr 17 with 3210 views | J2BLUE |
| Blimey! on 17:57 - Apr 17 by J2BLUE |
I don't think anyone can read anything into these results. If we look at the European elections where UKIP won you would think leave would have won with a landslide. I'm sure there are plenty of remainers who are also diehard Tories. |
Sorry if logic upsets you Pickles. |  |
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| Blimey! on 18:18 - Apr 17 with 3199 views | pickles110564 |
| Blimey! on 17:59 - Apr 17 by m14_blue |
Well it was tongue in cheek really but I think it’s fair to assume that anyone who’s maniac enough to want no deal is almost certain to vote UKIP or Chairman Nige.
That’s 34%, nothing like what the no deal proponents would have us believe. |
Wait and see, you remoaners are going to be proved wrong when you say leavers have changed their minds. Wishful thinking on your parts. |  | | |
| Blimey! on 18:19 - Apr 17 with 3196 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Blimey! on 18:15 - Apr 17 by GlasgowBlue |
People who still believe Labour will offer a second referendum are deluded. They have said they will only offer a second referendum on May's deal. If they win power they will negotiate their own deal and not offer a second referendum.
The leadership has stated this on numerous occasions. |
But this is a vote the Labour MEPs not for the national party isn't it?
I really don't get why local elections are fought by the national parties. I never vote the same way, the issues are completely different. It says something about the electorate that national party politics is projected onto the local and EU elections. | |
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| Blimey! on 18:20 - Apr 17 with 3193 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Blimey! on 18:18 - Apr 17 by pickles110564 |
Wait and see, you remoaners are going to be proved wrong when you say leavers have changed their minds. Wishful thinking on your parts. |
I hope we get a chance to see it and that they clearly vote for which of the options for leaving they want us to execute (deliberate choice of wording). | |
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| Blimey! on 18:24 - Apr 17 with 3175 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
By the way, GB, like the new avatar.
Very good. | |
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| Blimey! on 18:29 - Apr 17 with 3157 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Blimey! on 18:24 - Apr 17 by Nthsuffolkblue |
By the way, GB, like the new avatar.
Very good. |
Let's hope it's prophetic. | |
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| Blimey! on 18:32 - Apr 17 with 3149 views | m14_blue |
| Blimey! on 18:18 - Apr 17 by pickles110564 |
Wait and see, you remoaners are going to be proved wrong when you say leavers have changed their minds. Wishful thinking on your parts. |
I don’t think many leavers have changed their minds (although two of the most rational and thoughtful on here have done exactly that).
Most people are so entrenched now that they would never accept they were wrong as they would lose face, even if its becoming increasingly obvious by the day that they’ve been duped. |  | | |
| Blimey! on 18:37 - Apr 17 with 3138 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Blimey! on 17:57 - Apr 17 by J2BLUE |
I don't think anyone can read anything into these results. If we look at the European elections where UKIP won you would think leave would have won with a landslide. I'm sure there are plenty of remainers who are also diehard Tories. |
People were recently reading an awful lot into just 6 million people clicking on a petition to revoke article 50, despite that being 10 million less than the number of people who got off their backsides and went to the polling booths to cast their vote to remain a member of the EU.
I don't think it's unreasonable to read anything other than this being a disaster for the remain camp and remain parties if this poll holds up at the election. | |
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| Blimey! on 19:16 - Apr 17 with 3099 views | WeWereZombies |
| Blimey! on 18:08 - Apr 17 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Except that the Labour party MEPs have all come out clearly stating they want a second referendum haven't they which then changes it to:
34% no deal, 15% May's deal and 47% second referendum/remain. Aren't the Greens remain too?
49% some form of Brexit vs 51% remain/second referendum.
Then and when you factor in most of the Conservative party do not want May's deal you really should re-allocate their vote 3 ways, so 39% No deal, 5% May's deal, 56% remain/second vote.
Funny what you can do with statistics if you want to really, isn't it? |
Your post is more in line with the recent Sir John Curtice poll (which used a larger sample size) that found 55% Remain to 45% Leave now. But the only real test of how people feel is a second referendum. |  |
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| Blimey! on 19:16 - Apr 17 with 3098 views | J2BLUE |
| Blimey! on 18:29 - Apr 17 by GlasgowBlue |
Let's hope it's prophetic. |
Pfft, I had phoenix avatars before they were cool. | |
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| Blimey! on 19:35 - Apr 17 with 3080 views | SpruceMoose |
| Blimey! on 19:16 - Apr 17 by J2BLUE |
Pfft, I had phoenix avatars before they were cool. |
I just remember the one you nicked from wkj. |  |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| Blimey! on 19:48 - Apr 17 with 3071 views | The_Last_Baron |
| Blimey! on 15:26 - Apr 17 by J2BLUE |
Not surprised by that. Disappointed, but not surprised. |
Don't be disappointed, be happy. |  |
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| Blimey! on 19:50 - Apr 17 with 3071 views | The_Last_Baron |
| Blimey! on 17:51 - Apr 17 by GlasgowBlue |
or UKip who add 7% to the no deal total. Plus you will have dyed in the wool Tories who will only vote Tory. Just as you have dyed in the wool Labour voters who will only vote Labour.
Not that I'm advocating No Deal. But based on party policy we have
34% No Deal Brexit
22% Labour's unicorn Brexit
15% Mays deal Brexit
Some form of Brexit 71% VS 25% Remain |
I'm advocating a NWO Brexit. It's the only one worth it's salt.
Sooner or later this will be the outcome. May take 10 more years but it will happen. | |
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| Blimey! on 19:56 - Apr 17 with 3060 views | J2BLUE |
| Blimey! on 19:35 - Apr 17 by SpruceMoose |
I just remember the one you nicked from wkj. |
I think wkj thought I made that. It was actually a logo for J2 Marketing. | |
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| Blimey! on 19:59 - Apr 17 with 3050 views | SpruceMoose |
| Blimey! on 19:56 - Apr 17 by J2BLUE |
I think wkj thought I made that. It was actually a logo for J2 Marketing. |
A likely story. | |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| Blimey! on 20:00 - Apr 17 with 3047 views | SpruceMoose |
| Blimey! on 19:50 - Apr 17 by The_Last_Baron |
I'm advocating a NWO Brexit. It's the only one worth it's salt.
Sooner or later this will be the outcome. May take 10 more years but it will happen. |
Arf! Good one.
You'll go to your grave bitterly disappointed, and I for one love that  | |
| Pronouns: He/Him/His.
"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| Blimey! on 21:04 - Apr 17 with 2999 views | StokieBlue |
| Blimey! on 18:18 - Apr 17 by pickles110564 |
Wait and see, you remoaners are going to be proved wrong when you say leavers have changed their minds. Wishful thinking on your parts. |
If you haven't then I think that says more about you than the "remoaners".
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| Blimey! on 14:12 - Apr 18 with 2915 views | XYZ |
| Blimey! on 21:04 - Apr 17 by StokieBlue |
If you haven't then I think that says more about you than the "remoaners".
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Amazing what another day produces ...
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| Blimey! on 14:20 - Apr 18 with 2908 views | jaykay |
| Blimey! on 14:12 - Apr 18 by XYZ |
Amazing what another day produces ...
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Blimey! |  |
| forensic experts say footers and spruces fingerprints were not found at the scene after the weekends rows |
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| Blimey! on 20:13 - Apr 18 with 2853 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Blimey! on 14:12 - Apr 18 by XYZ |
Amazing what another day produces ...
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CHUKa must be thrilled they named the party after him. |  |
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| Blimey! on 20:18 - Apr 18 with 2846 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Blimey! on 14:12 - Apr 18 by XYZ |
Amazing what another day produces ...
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or even the same day
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| Blimey! on 21:01 - Apr 18 with 2814 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Blimey! on 15:26 - Apr 17 by J2BLUE |
Not surprised by that. Disappointed, but not surprised. |
Ditto. It’s all gone way beyond the actual issue, thoroughly tribal and well into the ‘we’ll show them’ territory. What’s most depressing is that I would wager a very high percentage of those people following Farage have not in any way been affected directly and negatively by our membership of the EU. But he knows how to play a crowd. Always has done and that’s why the establishment hate him. |  |
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| Blimey! on 00:24 - Apr 19 with 2747 views | XYZ |
| Blimey! on 20:18 - Apr 18 by GlasgowBlue |
or even the same day
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It's almost like they're meaningless and should be ignored ... | | | |
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