| The other side of the story ... 15:25 - Jul 2 with 8100 views | Darth_Koont |
I'll not make a further comment on this thread but thought it would be useful to at least link to this which highlights the other view of the Labour Antisemitism crisis.
Watch it, skim it, ignore it, savage it, downvote it. But remember that almost all the contributors are Jewish. Even if they're very rarely referred to as Jewish when they're mentioned in the media or being attacked as anti-semites by the self-styled spokespeople of the "Jewish community".
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| The other side of the story ... on 00:30 - Jul 3 with 4869 views | Darth_Koont |
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| The other side of the story ... on 01:48 - Jul 3 with 4816 views | Ryorry |
You can't expect people to spend an hour watching a vid on a miniscule screen. |  |
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| The other side of the story ... on 01:59 - Jul 3 with 4811 views | SpruceMoose |
| The other side of the story ... on 01:48 - Jul 3 by Ryorry |
You can't expect people to spend an hour watching a vid on a miniscule screen. |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| The other side of the story ... on 07:40 - Jul 3 with 4702 views | Darth_Koont |
| The other side of the story ... on 01:48 - Jul 3 by Ryorry |
You can't expect people to spend an hour watching a vid on a miniscule screen. |
Click the icon on the bottom right. | |
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| The other side of the story ... on 08:02 - Jul 3 with 4664 views | jimmyvet |
| The other side of the story ... on 07:40 - Jul 3 by Darth_Koont |
Click the icon on the bottom right. |
DK give it a rest your defence has been exposed your in a corner pretty much alone with just a few extremists offering you any support. As before I will go with the findings of a global human rights organisation not an apologist for anti-semites on this subject. |  | | |
| The other side of the story ... on 08:47 - Jul 3 with 4615 views | Darth_Koont |
| The other side of the story ... on 08:02 - Jul 3 by jimmyvet |
DK give it a rest your defence has been exposed your in a corner pretty much alone with just a few extremists offering you any support. As before I will go with the findings of a global human rights organisation not an apologist for anti-semites on this subject. |
Whatever you need to do. | |
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| The other side of the story ... on 08:57 - Jul 3 with 4596 views | Pinewoodblue |
| The other side of the story ... on 08:47 - Jul 3 by Darth_Koont |
Whatever you need to do. |
When you start a thread saying you will not comment further and then keep doing do you damage your credibility |  |
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| The other side of the story ... on 09:01 - Jul 3 with 4586 views | Darth_Koont |
| The other side of the story ... on 08:57 - Jul 3 by Pinewoodblue |
When you start a thread saying you will not comment further and then keep doing do you damage your credibility |
I'm not commenting further on the subject.
An inability to even address the film is a little strange though. | |
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| The other side of the story ... on 09:29 - Jul 3 with 4531 views | DarkHorse |
No, you can f*ck right off with this.
Sick of your anti-semitic apologist sh*t. |  | | |
| The other side of the story ... on 09:37 - Jul 3 with 4511 views | Darth_Koont |
| The other side of the story ... on 09:29 - Jul 3 by DarkHorse |
No, you can f*ck right off with this.
Sick of your anti-semitic apologist sh*t. |
What would be antisemitic is not listening to Jews tell their side of the story because you've already decided the Jewish community only has one point of view. | |
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| The other side of the story ... on 09:52 - Jul 3 with 4464 views | Steve_M |
| The other side of the story ... on 09:37 - Jul 3 by Darth_Koont |
What would be antisemitic is not listening to Jews tell their side of the story because you've already decided the Jewish community only has one point of view. |
No, continually pushing the voices of people who haven't experienced a a particular racism to discredit those who have been racially discriminated against is apologism for racism.
Edit: to add the words 'a particular' before racism. [Post edited 3 Jul 2019 11:11]
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| The other side of the story ... on 10:12 - Jul 3 with 4428 views | caught-in-limbo |
You've been around long enough to know how these threads work.
Those who share your view may watch the linked video, but at over an hour, it's unlikely.
Those who don't share your view won't watch more than 2 minutes.
You won't change anyone's mind/stance with posts like this. |  |
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| The other side of the story ... on 10:45 - Jul 3 with 4375 views | Ryorry |
| The other side of the story ... on 07:40 - Jul 3 by Darth_Koont |
Click the icon on the bottom right. |
... and it's still on a miniscule screen.
Just leave people be; from the last thread on the subject you could obviousy see that everyone who's interested in it on here has strong views about it (and your views on it) which were thrashed out there big-time.
If there's a transcript of this film that you can find for me, I'll read that. My small-screen watching is confined to an occasional 30 second clip here & there. | |
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| The other side of the story ... on 10:48 - Jul 3 with 4368 views | Darth_Koont |
| The other side of the story ... on 09:52 - Jul 3 by Steve_M |
No, continually pushing the voices of people who haven't experienced a a particular racism to discredit those who have been racially discriminated against is apologism for racism.
Edit: to add the words 'a particular' before racism. [Post edited 3 Jul 2019 11:11]
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You don't think black, Jewish Jackie Walker has experienced racism!!??
Wow.
You're just apologising for ignorance now. | |
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| The other side of the story ... on 10:51 - Jul 3 with 4353 views | Darth_Koont |
| The other side of the story ... on 10:12 - Jul 3 by caught-in-limbo |
You've been around long enough to know how these threads work.
Those who share your view may watch the linked video, but at over an hour, it's unlikely.
Those who don't share your view won't watch more than 2 minutes.
You won't change anyone's mind/stance with posts like this. |
I know. But the responses as they do everything but watch the thing or address other links I've given them are very revealing and damning.
It's a very Brexiteer-y response to the factual information contained in them. | |
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| The other side of the story ... on 11:10 - Jul 3 with 4309 views | Steve_M |
| The other side of the story ... on 10:48 - Jul 3 by Darth_Koont |
You don't think black, Jewish Jackie Walker has experienced racism!!??
Wow.
You're just apologising for ignorance now. |
The view you are continually pushing is that anti-semitism doesn't exist - or is being 'weaponised' (sic) - because some people say it is. That is taking people who haven't experienced that racism and using it to denegrate the experience of others who have.
I'm not talking about any other racism on this thread so if my previous implied that it wasn't meant to and I'll edit accordingly.
Well done for not commenting again on this thread. | |
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| The other side of the story ... on 11:18 - Jul 3 with 4294 views | Darth_Koont |
| The other side of the story ... on 11:10 - Jul 3 by Steve_M |
The view you are continually pushing is that anti-semitism doesn't exist - or is being 'weaponised' (sic) - because some people say it is. That is taking people who haven't experienced that racism and using it to denegrate the experience of others who have.
I'm not talking about any other racism on this thread so if my previous implied that it wasn't meant to and I'll edit accordingly.
Well done for not commenting again on this thread. |
Yeah that was poorly expressed. I meant it more that I'm not commenting on the issues raised in the film itself.
I've never said antisemitism doesn't exist. So thanks for misrepresenting what I'm saying as well as sticking your head in the sand. I thought you were better and fairer than that Steve but I guess everyone has their blind spot. | |
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| The other side of the story ... on 11:22 - Jul 3 with 4284 views | Darth_Koont |
| The other side of the story ... on 09:52 - Jul 3 by Steve_M |
No, continually pushing the voices of people who haven't experienced a a particular racism to discredit those who have been racially discriminated against is apologism for racism.
Edit: to add the words 'a particular' before racism. [Post edited 3 Jul 2019 11:11]
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So you think the Jews in this film haven't experienced antisemitism? The film is almost entirely about them and their views. | |
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| The other side of the story ... on 11:30 - Jul 3 with 4256 views | Ewan_Oozami |
To me, this Labour anti-semitism row is taking on the proportions of the Schleswig-Holstein Question, only fully understood by three people, one of whom is dead, another being quite mad, and the final one having developed amnesia over the whole thing. |  |
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| The other side of the story ... on 11:37 - Jul 3 with 4226 views | giant_stow |
| The other side of the story ... on 10:51 - Jul 3 by Darth_Koont |
I know. But the responses as they do everything but watch the thing or address other links I've given them are very revealing and damning.
It's a very Brexiteer-y response to the factual information contained in them. |
Bit much to be cross with people for not wanting to spend an hour on a film, not of their choosing mr. Perhaps you could make your point in a more user-friendly, less demanding manner? |  |
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| The other side of the story ... on 11:54 - Jul 3 with 4189 views | Darth_Koont |
| The other side of the story ... on 11:37 - Jul 3 by giant_stow |
Bit much to be cross with people for not wanting to spend an hour on a film, not of their choosing mr. Perhaps you could make your point in a more user-friendly, less demanding manner? |
No. If they don't care enough to even investigate a subject they're spouting off on a regular basis then that's their problem.
There are a few too many baseless opinions in the world today. Which is inexcusable when all the facts are there or at least easy enough to find. | |
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| The other side of the story ... on 12:04 - Jul 3 with 4158 views | giant_stow |
| The other side of the story ... on 11:54 - Jul 3 by Darth_Koont |
No. If they don't care enough to even investigate a subject they're spouting off on a regular basis then that's their problem.
There are a few too many baseless opinions in the world today. Which is inexcusable when all the facts are there or at least easy enough to find. |
The trouble is that if you're going to demand that of people, the quality of the linked content needs to be high, or people won't invest the time the next time. I'm afraid that's where I am after wasting far too much time on that long long blog post you linked to last week from the bloke crying about him and his mrs leaving labour. | |
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| The other side of the story ... on 12:12 - Jul 3 with 4133 views | pickles110564 |
| The other side of the story ... on 08:57 - Jul 3 by Pinewoodblue |
When you start a thread saying you will not comment further and then keep doing do you damage your credibility |
What credibility? He has none. |  | | |
| The other side of the story ... on 12:14 - Jul 3 with 4128 views | Steve_M |
| The other side of the story ... on 11:54 - Jul 3 by Darth_Koont |
No. If they don't care enough to even investigate a subject they're spouting off on a regular basis then that's their problem.
There are a few too many baseless opinions in the world today. Which is inexcusable when all the facts are there or at least easy enough to find. |
Some people's experience of racism comes under "baseless opinions" does it? | |
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| The other side of the story ... on 12:15 - Jul 3 with 4127 views | Ryorry |
| The other side of the story ... on 11:54 - Jul 3 by Darth_Koont |
No. If they don't care enough to even investigate a subject they're spouting off on a regular basis then that's their problem.
There are a few too many baseless opinions in the world today. Which is inexcusable when all the facts are there or at least easy enough to find. |
Maybe some of those people "spouting off" have actually experienced anti-Semitism themselves (I know for a fact that at least two have), and are therefore unfortunately all too well aware of the problem. You seem to be talking as someone who never actually has.
Your arrogance in this reply highlights why you never get anywhere in trying to persuade people over to your point of view on the subject, which you post regularly on. People have physical problems with the small screen, as I do, and are not going to spend an hour on a rare sunny summer weekday morning watching it. I asked you to post a transcript*, all you replied with was a snide comment "But the responses as they do everything but watch the thing or address other links I've given them are very revealing and damning."
*You could also try to find it on iPlayer or similar | |
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