| Gwion 00:09 - Oct 27 with 8461 views | OwainG1992 |
There were times last season he looked one of our best players.
He does have his quiet days but I'm surprised how poor hes looked when playing for us this season so far.
Was a player I expected big things from this season.
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| Gwion on 11:32 - Oct 27 with 3401 views | Garv |
| Gwion on 06:56 - Oct 27 by Bluefish |
He was crap last season too. Very much a Walcott type player that has made a career based on pace alone, his touch yesterday was abysmal. I said last season that he was a lot of our problem under Hurst, we were carrying him while he stood out on the touchline waiting until he could run fast. In my opinion we have so many wide/no 10 options that he is about 9th choice so hopefully we won't see him again [Post edited 27 Oct 2019 6:57]
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Joint top scorer?
One of the better ones of a bad bunch. |  |
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| Gwion on 14:24 - Oct 27 with 3377 views | Bluefish |
| Gwion on 11:32 - Oct 27 by Garv |
Joint top scorer?
One of the better ones of a bad bunch. |
Do you really believe that makes him one of our better players? Would you ever judge people on what you see on the pitch over dodgy stats? |  |
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| Gwion on 14:50 - Oct 27 with 3365 views | Mullet |
| Gwion on 09:11 - Oct 27 by Bluefish |
The occasional flashes don't cancel out carrying him through games. |
Totally agree. As with any player if Lambert is picking him regularly he should be getting the most out of him. |  |
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| Gwion on 22:22 - Oct 27 with 3313 views | MrTown |
Dont see the negativity surrounding Gwion. I understand we like a scapegoat but I wasn’t watching him Saturday thinking you’re horrendous.
Can’t see it I’m afraid. [Post edited 27 Oct 2019 22:33]
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| Gwion on 22:30 - Oct 27 with 3307 views | Bluefish |
| Gwion on 22:22 - Oct 27 by MrTown |
Dont see the negativity surrounding Gwion. I understand we like a scapegoat but I wasn’t watching him Saturday thinking you’re horrendous.
Can’t see it I’m afraid. [Post edited 27 Oct 2019 22:33]
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I've been thinking it and saying it for about a year. He isn't a footballer, I said similar about lee martin and tamas priskin and some wanted to argue that constantly as well | |
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| Gwion on 22:33 - Oct 27 with 3298 views | MrTown |
| Gwion on 22:30 - Oct 27 by Bluefish |
I've been thinking it and saying it for about a year. He isn't a footballer, I said similar about lee martin and tamas priskin and some wanted to argue that constantly as well |
What do you mean he’s not a footballer?
My point is why the negativity towards him. It was the exact same with Judge | |
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| Gwion on 02:50 - Oct 28 with 3258 views | harlingblue |
Not doing it for Town this season, lightweight in defending, and not creating or scoring,
one for the bench at the moment? Rowe, fighting for his place perhaps, but adding more to his game? both have much to do? |  | | |
| Gwion on 08:01 - Oct 28 with 3215 views | Bluefish |
| Gwion on 22:33 - Oct 27 by MrTown |
What do you mean he’s not a footballer?
My point is why the negativity towards him. It was the exact same with Judge |
Footballers can naturally do the footballing aspects of the game ie. Control the ball properly, pass, tackle etc. Gwion is a pro just because he can run fast. If he lost his pace he would genuinely struggle to get a game at thurlow nunn level [Post edited 28 Oct 2019 8:06]
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| Gwion on 08:32 - Oct 28 with 3192 views | GeoffSentence |
| Gwion on 08:01 - Oct 28 by Bluefish |
Footballers can naturally do the footballing aspects of the game ie. Control the ball properly, pass, tackle etc. Gwion is a pro just because he can run fast. If he lost his pace he would genuinely struggle to get a game at thurlow nunn level [Post edited 28 Oct 2019 8:06]
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He has a bit more than that, he undoubtedly has some skill, that flick against Blackburn on his debut was sublime, and he has a goal or two in him. My concern about GE is that he is a bit lightweight and gets knocked off the ball too much. If he could build up a bit more upper body strength he would be fine. |  |
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| Gwion on 08:54 - Oct 28 with 3177 views | MrTown |
| Gwion on 08:01 - Oct 28 by Bluefish |
Footballers can naturally do the footballing aspects of the game ie. Control the ball properly, pass, tackle etc. Gwion is a pro just because he can run fast. If he lost his pace he would genuinely struggle to get a game at thurlow nunn level [Post edited 28 Oct 2019 8:06]
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Oh come on, really?
He is a bit of flair player, I'm not really sure what he is doing drastically wrong that everyone else is seeing. | |
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| Gwion on 09:01 - Oct 28 with 3169 views | Bluefish |
| Gwion on 08:54 - Oct 28 by MrTown |
Oh come on, really?
He is a bit of flair player, I'm not really sure what he is doing drastically wrong that everyone else is seeing. |
Yes he is a flair player simply because he runs fast. He could have moments in a team where the 10 other players are there to carry him and allow him to run fast and score every now and again. He is not good enough to be that player for us so we shouldn't be carrying him. As I said before it is just like Walcott, Arsenal didn't want to let go because he can have moments but carrying him for so long as their flair player harmed them in the long run. The enormous gaps in the Hurst side were due to Edwards spectating from so far out on the right touchline. | |
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| Gwion on 09:04 - Oct 28 with 3161 views | Darth_Koont |
He's hugely frustrating. In an otherwise pretty ropy performance his touch past the Southend midfielder on the outside then cut inside and curler just past the far post was probably the best single thing anyone did in the game.
But think he's another player who hasn't found his feet in the formation. Not only that but he's been playing everywhere from left-side wing back to right-wing.
He has a knack of popping up in the box and scoring but seems to be too far back this season. So, I wonder if his best position is as a wide attacker in a front three. In fact, doesn't a 433 work better for us as a team given our narrow midfielders and no obvious choice of an LM or RM? |  |
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| Gwion on 09:18 - Oct 28 with 3127 views | WestStanderLaLaLa |
| Gwion on 09:01 - Oct 28 by Bluefish |
Yes he is a flair player simply because he runs fast. He could have moments in a team where the 10 other players are there to carry him and allow him to run fast and score every now and again. He is not good enough to be that player for us so we shouldn't be carrying him. As I said before it is just like Walcott, Arsenal didn't want to let go because he can have moments but carrying him for so long as their flair player harmed them in the long run. The enormous gaps in the Hurst side were due to Edwards spectating from so far out on the right touchline. |
Have you considered that our equal top scorer last season was keeping out wide because that’s what the manager asked him to do? |  |
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| Gwion on 09:21 - Oct 28 with 3128 views | itfcjoe |
He looks a player low on confidence - his touch constantly lets him down and he is just so weak at times.
Body position poor and allows him to get outmuscled so easily.
He looked the pick of the 'Paul Hurst Lower League Allstars' at this time last season but is just not playing well at all. |  |
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| Gwion on 09:24 - Oct 28 with 3124 views | itfcjoe |
| Gwion on 10:23 - Oct 27 by Garv |
I think if Martin had been a free transfer he'd be viewed as being a useful player but ultimately not good enough. Sadly he didn't cost us nothing.
Struggled massively in his first year, went to Charlton and got some form, came back and played behind Chopra and did well for a spell, scored some goals. He also played a fair few games under Mick during the survival season. |
I agree, I made him player of the season that year as don't like to give it to a loanee who has played 15 games in Bullard, and he was the catalyst for making things work that year.
A large price to pay overall for that season, but even when Mick came in he started him nearly every week - his career could have gone very differently here had he played in a central role | |
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| Gwion on 09:25 - Oct 28 with 3121 views | Bluefish |
| Gwion on 09:18 - Oct 28 by WestStanderLaLaLa |
Have you considered that our equal top scorer last season was keeping out wide because that’s what the manager asked him to do? |
Have you considered that trying to justify a player as good because they were equal top scorer in a team that used about 8 different forwards and finished rock bottom is a bit silly? Claus Thomsen finished joint top scorer once but it didn't justify his position in an attacking role or to carry him in the team | |
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| Gwion on 09:27 - Oct 28 with 3121 views | PJH |
| Gwion on 09:21 - Oct 28 by itfcjoe |
He looks a player low on confidence - his touch constantly lets him down and he is just so weak at times.
Body position poor and allows him to get outmuscled so easily.
He looked the pick of the 'Paul Hurst Lower League Allstars' at this time last season but is just not playing well at all. |
This time last year he did look the best of Hurst's signings although that is not saying much.
They had all supposed to have been good lower league players although even now only Jackson and Nolan are proving to be so,don't know how Harrison is doing. |  | | |
| Gwion on 09:36 - Oct 28 with 3108 views | Dyland |
| Gwion on 08:54 - Oct 28 by MrTown |
Oh come on, really?
He is a bit of flair player, I'm not really sure what he is doing drastically wrong that everyone else is seeing. |
He looked like a lower tier flair player last season, sure. This season he has been poor. I think the criticism is also in part due to the belief we have better options in the burgeoning midfield squad, but in reality we don't have much out wide.
As others have commented previously or intimated in this thread, if Edwards and/or Rowe are getting starts ahead of other players you do have to question either the actual squad depth, or Lambert's nous, or both.
Jury is out, as most sensible fans keep saying. Giving the benefit of the doubt is still easy (league position), but Lambert has been here a year now and whilst much of it has been a free hit (to me anyway) as we go into winter I'd really, really like to see a consistent team and formation etc. cos yeh we have good players but they aren't that good for a total football play wherever and do whatever approach. |  |
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| Gwion on 09:37 - Oct 28 with 3107 views | WestStanderLaLaLa |
| Gwion on 09:25 - Oct 28 by Bluefish |
Have you considered that trying to justify a player as good because they were equal top scorer in a team that used about 8 different forwards and finished rock bottom is a bit silly? Claus Thomsen finished joint top scorer once but it didn't justify his position in an attacking role or to carry him in the team |
where did I say he was good? I remember Claus as one of the better players in a poor team, hardly carried him. | |
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| Gwion on 09:44 - Oct 28 with 3101 views | Bluefish |
| Gwion on 09:37 - Oct 28 by WestStanderLaLaLa |
where did I say he was good? I remember Claus as one of the better players in a poor team, hardly carried him. |
What were you saying then?
Claus was a good player but the goals did little to prove that | |
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| Gwion on 09:46 - Oct 28 with 3100 views | MrTown |
| Gwion on 09:36 - Oct 28 by Dyland |
He looked like a lower tier flair player last season, sure. This season he has been poor. I think the criticism is also in part due to the belief we have better options in the burgeoning midfield squad, but in reality we don't have much out wide.
As others have commented previously or intimated in this thread, if Edwards and/or Rowe are getting starts ahead of other players you do have to question either the actual squad depth, or Lambert's nous, or both.
Jury is out, as most sensible fans keep saying. Giving the benefit of the doubt is still easy (league position), but Lambert has been here a year now and whilst much of it has been a free hit (to me anyway) as we go into winter I'd really, really like to see a consistent team and formation etc. cos yeh we have good players but they aren't that good for a total football play wherever and do whatever approach. |
Obviously fans see different things, it is the beauty of the game. I was just saying for me I think he is a player a little bit low on confidence, but his performances aren't as drastically bad as people on here have made out.
In regards to Lambert, needs to stick to what has served us well. Consistent 4-4-2, with player rotation to keep squad fresh going into the winter will serve us well.
Don't want him to tinker with silly formations for unnecessary reasons. Hopefully he has learnt that from last week. | |
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| Gwion on 09:57 - Oct 28 with 3090 views | Bluefish |
| Gwion on 09:46 - Oct 28 by MrTown |
Obviously fans see different things, it is the beauty of the game. I was just saying for me I think he is a player a little bit low on confidence, but his performances aren't as drastically bad as people on here have made out.
In regards to Lambert, needs to stick to what has served us well. Consistent 4-4-2, with player rotation to keep squad fresh going into the winter will serve us well.
Don't want him to tinker with silly formations for unnecessary reasons. Hopefully he has learnt that from last week. |
Surely you can see that he hasn't played well for 12 months now and is struggling badly. His first touch is abysmal, his tackling is a liability, he is poor in the air and he struggles to keep the ball under control when running
Not sure what else there is to say on it | |
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| Gwion on 09:58 - Oct 28 with 3085 views | PJH |
| Gwion on 09:57 - Oct 28 by Bluefish |
Surely you can see that he hasn't played well for 12 months now and is struggling badly. His first touch is abysmal, his tackling is a liability, he is poor in the air and he struggles to keep the ball under control when running
Not sure what else there is to say on it |
He runs quite fast sometimes. | | | |
| Gwion on 10:10 - Oct 28 with 3068 views | Dyland |
| Gwion on 09:46 - Oct 28 by MrTown |
Obviously fans see different things, it is the beauty of the game. I was just saying for me I think he is a player a little bit low on confidence, but his performances aren't as drastically bad as people on here have made out.
In regards to Lambert, needs to stick to what has served us well. Consistent 4-4-2, with player rotation to keep squad fresh going into the winter will serve us well.
Don't want him to tinker with silly formations for unnecessary reasons. Hopefully he has learnt that from last week. |
Fans seeing different things really isn't the beauty of the game at all, especially when they are very vocal and talking absolute sh1te.
At least your rubbish interpretation of what you're watching is in praise of a player not playing well, rather than the more usual from our fans which is the other way round ;) | |
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