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Are people really moaning after that? 23:47 - Jan 14 with 4998 viewsSteve_M

Conditions were awful, parts of the pitch was sodden at times and we were playing a decent League One side in better form than us. And yet we controlled the midfield, conceded few chances and created decent opportunities. The only real criticism would be not getting more shots away.

But we look more like a team again rather than the disjointed bunch of players against Gillingham less than a fortnight ago. The belief and intensity is back up and, especially given conditions, that was a good point.

Looked a clear penalty too....

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Are people really moaning after that? on 09:14 - Jan 15 with 1520 viewsHerbivore

Are people really moaning after that? on 09:12 - Jan 15 by portmanking

Naturally, your description of your assessment as "reasonable" is entirely subjective.


As is your view that it isn't. It seems to have really upset you for some reason though, think you need a thicker skin, flower.

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Are people really moaning after that? on 09:17 - Jan 15 with 1523 viewsportmanking

Are people really moaning after that? on 09:14 - Jan 15 by Herbivore

As is your view that it isn't. It seems to have really upset you for some reason though, think you need a thicker skin, flower.


Thicker skin?! You're the most blinkered snowflake on this forum FFS.
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Are people really moaning after that? on 09:20 - Jan 15 with 1508 viewsHerbivore

Are people really moaning after that? on 09:17 - Jan 15 by portmanking

Thicker skin?! You're the most blinkered snowflake on this forum FFS.


Well yeah, look how offended you are by a reasonable assessment of our performance last night. You can't let it drop. Toughen up, people won't always agree with you.

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Are people really moaning after that? on 09:25 - Jan 15 with 1505 viewsportmanking

Are people really moaning after that? on 09:20 - Jan 15 by Herbivore

Well yeah, look how offended you are by a reasonable assessment of our performance last night. You can't let it drop. Toughen up, people won't always agree with you.


Take your own advice from your last sentence, pal. This whole thing stemmed from you not liking the fact that I and several others disagreed with your "assessment"!
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Are people really moaning after that? on 09:26 - Jan 15 with 1504 viewsGuthrum

Are people really moaning after that? on 07:28 - Jan 15 by Steve_M

Did see you at halftime but not quite close enough to say hello.


Ah, that's a shame. We were ravenous by HT, having missed pre-match food (and the start of the game) due to foul weather and the traffic jam getting into the car park.

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Are people really moaning after that? on 09:27 - Jan 15 with 1497 viewsHerbivore

Are people really moaning after that? on 09:25 - Jan 15 by portmanking

Take your own advice from your last sentence, pal. This whole thing stemmed from you not liking the fact that I and several others disagreed with your "assessment"!


I have no issue with you disagreeing with it, I'm happy to stand by it. What I've taken issue with is some minor critique of our ability to create chances being played up as 'having a pop' or some sort of massive moan fest. That's just a weird attempt to shut down discussion to be honest. Enjoy your day, petal.
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Are people really moaning after that? on 09:29 - Jan 15 with 1497 viewsportmanking

Are people really moaning after that? on 09:27 - Jan 15 by Herbivore

I have no issue with you disagreeing with it, I'm happy to stand by it. What I've taken issue with is some minor critique of our ability to create chances being played up as 'having a pop' or some sort of massive moan fest. That's just a weird attempt to shut down discussion to be honest. Enjoy your day, petal.
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For the final time. You. simply. cannot. critique. last. night's. game.

It was trench warfare out there. What were you expecting? Pretty triangles? Just take the green shoots of recovery from Accrington, the way we battled last night and hope for better days soon.
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Are people really moaning after that? on 09:33 - Jan 15 with 1486 viewsHerbivore

Are people really moaning after that? on 09:29 - Jan 15 by portmanking

For the final time. You. simply. cannot. critique. last. night's. game.

It was trench warfare out there. What were you expecting? Pretty triangles? Just take the green shoots of recovery from Accrington, the way we battled last night and hope for better days soon.


Okay, it's clear you can't handle a different view and just want to shutdown debate. Glad we've got there in the end.

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Are people really moaning after that? on 09:41 - Jan 15 with 1487 viewsGuthrum

Are people really moaning after that? on 07:15 - Jan 15 by SitfcB

‘Yeah but it was only Oxford United we should be doing them 6-0 innit.’

Sadly that’s the attitude of some of our fans still. We were much the better team before the break in play, then the break upset the rhythm somewhat.

Clear penalty.

Oxford were then the better team in the second half without any real threat. They didn’t look up for it in the first half as could be seen when they ran inside during the break.

A good solid away point, now let’s hope the Tranmere game goes ahead and we can get three points to consolidate this draw further.


I really think we coped with the break in play much better than Oxford did, they looked quite ragged after. Think staying out on the pitch may have helped (keeping in "match mode", soaking up fan support, not sitting down and getting comfortable).

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Ultimately it was a decent point, but.... on 09:54 - Jan 15 with 1479 viewsBloots

....the lack of times we troubled their keeper is a concern.

Difficult to draw any conclusions other than that really, conditions were awful but probably helped us more than them at the end of the day.

Given the difficulty in passing the ball through midfield last night, it highlighted the ongoing issue that we don't really have anyone that will carry the ball through midfield. Oxford looked far more dangerous than us in that department.

Without that ability our play can be slow and predictable.

But, overall a decent point to take.

If the match is on Saturday, we will face the same issues with the pitch unfortunately.

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Ultimately it was a decent point, but.... on 09:57 - Jan 15 with 1473 viewschicoazul

Ultimately it was a decent point, but.... on 09:54 - Jan 15 by Bloots

....the lack of times we troubled their keeper is a concern.

Difficult to draw any conclusions other than that really, conditions were awful but probably helped us more than them at the end of the day.

Given the difficulty in passing the ball through midfield last night, it highlighted the ongoing issue that we don't really have anyone that will carry the ball through midfield. Oxford looked far more dangerous than us in that department.

Without that ability our play can be slow and predictable.

But, overall a decent point to take.

If the match is on Saturday, we will face the same issues with the pitch unfortunately.


Doesnt/can't Judge do that carrying job luv? I would have thought that's his role as a 10.

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Ultimately it was a decent point, but.... on 10:08 - Jan 15 with 1462 viewsHerbivore

Ultimately it was a decent point, but.... on 09:57 - Jan 15 by chicoazul

Doesnt/can't Judge do that carrying job luv? I would have thought that's his role as a 10.


He doesn't have the legs for it really. His strengths are in other areas, he's not a ball carrier. We need the boy Ted for that.

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Should be Teddy.... on 10:34 - Jan 15 with 1446 viewsBloots

Ultimately it was a decent point, but.... on 09:57 - Jan 15 by chicoazul

Doesnt/can't Judge do that carrying job luv? I would have thought that's his role as a 10.


....as Herbs has noted.

But also it should be a fairly basic skill of any midfielder really.

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Are people really moaning after that? on 10:54 - Jan 15 with 1423 viewsSuperfrans

Are people really moaning after that? on 09:11 - Jan 15 by Herbivore

I actually watched the game rather than just look at the stats. We competed well but didn't look like scoring. That's hardly having a pop, it's a reasonable assessment of our performance. Anyone claiming that a reasonable assessment of a performance is having a pop is either a fool or has an agenda.


Funnily enough, I was there. They were appalling conditions, not conducive to proper football. Both teams did their best. But it is nonsense to read anything more into either performance than that.

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Are people really moaning after that? on 10:56 - Jan 15 with 1415 viewsitfcjoe

Are people really moaning after that? on 10:54 - Jan 15 by Superfrans

Funnily enough, I was there. They were appalling conditions, not conducive to proper football. Both teams did their best. But it is nonsense to read anything more into either performance than that.


Was one of those games that bar a massive blunder it was hard to criticse anyone or mark anyone down negatively, and could only really look for any positives and try and get out of there with a point - to me there were plenty of positives.

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Ultimately it was a decent point, but.... on 10:56 - Jan 15 with 1414 viewsSuperfrans

Ultimately it was a decent point, but.... on 09:57 - Jan 15 by chicoazul

Doesnt/can't Judge do that carrying job luv? I would have thought that's his role as a 10.


He showed last night that he can do this job v well - to hold onto the ball at all in those conditions was a minor miracle. The Oxford MF who kept slipping over throughout the first half was illustrated why. There seemed to be a decent understanding building between Judge and Edwards too, I thought.

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Are people really moaning after that? on 11:03 - Jan 15 with 1397 viewsGuthrum

Are people really moaning after that? on 08:42 - Jan 15 by Herbivore

Well yeah, creating nothing is disappointing. Oxford managed to create a few opportunities despite the conditions whereas their keeper had nothing to do. It was hardly a moan fest though and people acknowledged it was a decent point in those conditions. Are we not allowed any critique at all of performances anymore?
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Point of order - we created quite a lot of opportunities, just mostly failed to convert those into actual shots.

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Are people really moaning after that? on 11:05 - Jan 15 with 1388 viewsHerbivore

Are people really moaning after that? on 11:03 - Jan 15 by Guthrum

Point of order - we created quite a lot of opportunities, just mostly failed to convert those into actual shots.


Are they really opportunities if they don't lead to actually having an effort at goal? It's just possession in good areas if it doesn't actually lead to a chance. We did have possession in good areas at times but didn't do much with it. I thought Oxford were more of a threat in that respect, though neither side looked massively likely to score.

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Are people really moaning after that? on 20:18 - Jan 15 with 1217 viewsBramidan

Are people really moaning after that? on 11:05 - Jan 15 by Herbivore

Are they really opportunities if they don't lead to actually having an effort at goal? It's just possession in good areas if it doesn't actually lead to a chance. We did have possession in good areas at times but didn't do much with it. I thought Oxford were more of a threat in that respect, though neither side looked massively likely to score.


I thought their player, Baptiste, looked the player who was going to create anything. Fast, direct and good on the ball.
Might have been the conditions but he looked like he could take defenders on and get behind defences.
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Are people really moaning after that? on 07:07 - Jan 16 with 1144 viewsChrisd

Are people really moaning after that? on 10:56 - Jan 15 by itfcjoe

Was one of those games that bar a massive blunder it was hard to criticse anyone or mark anyone down negatively, and could only really look for any positives and try and get out of there with a point - to me there were plenty of positives.


Come on Joe, it seems even in those atrocious conditions and on a heavy pitch on Tuesday night we are still expected to play like Pele's Brazil from 1970 and are overly critiqued as to why this didn't occur. Just plain daft! Have an uppie.
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