| Jess Phillips expected to drop out of the race this afternoon 13:35 - Jan 21 with 10114 views | tractordownsouth |
I think it's likely to be a good thing as her voters are more likely to back Starmer or Nandy than RLB |  |
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| Jess Phillips expected to drop out of the race this afternoon on 18:15 - Jan 24 with 1496 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Jess Phillips expected to drop out of the race this afternoon on 08:55 - Jan 22 by itfcjoe |
But a New Labour government achieved far more good, than the Conservative Government.
Just because this is your worldview it doesn't make it right, you can come up with all your reasons as to why you think it is, and a myriad of reasons as to why you think it is the media's fault but the reality is if people wanted that then it would be happening - not going the other way
Have you ever considered that you are wrong? |
He might be right, and we're all wrong. There are enough indicators around about social equality and poverty despite an ever richer world to at least make that a posibility.
I find it hard to criticise someone like DC who wants a better world based on fairness. It's an honest goal, even if people aren't ready for it. Someone has to fight for it. Although they also need to be honest with themselves that it is essentially a protest movement with A LOT of ground to make up. |  |
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| Jess Phillips expected to drop out of the race this afternoon on 18:18 - Jan 24 with 1487 views | GaryCooper |
| Jess Phillips expected to drop out of the race this afternoon on 17:52 - Jan 24 by GlasgowBlue |
UNITE endorse RLB, which is no surprise, and Richard fcuking Burton as deputy.
Looks like Red Len has learned nothing from the election defeat. |
UNITE and the labour party have no need to learn anything, it is the electorate who are wrong, you know that. |  | | |
| Jess Phillips expected to drop out of the race this afternoon on 18:32 - Jan 24 with 1456 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Jess Phillips expected to drop out of the race this afternoon on 18:11 - Jan 24 by itfcjoe |
That can’t be a surprise? He never seems to learn |
As I said, RLB was no sunrise but I just don’t get the backing for Burgon. He has very little support from his parliamentary colleagues, is the only candidate in the leadership/deputy leader election who has refused to sign the Board of Deputies ten pledges for tackling antisemitism and has used some very problematic language in the past regarding Zionism.
Angela Rayner is from the same left wing of the Labour Party but has nine of his baggage. Why endorse him? |  |
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| Jess Phillips expected to drop out of the race this afternoon on 18:35 - Jan 24 with 1456 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Jess Phillips expected to drop out of the race this afternoon on 18:32 - Jan 24 by GlasgowBlue |
As I said, RLB was no sunrise but I just don’t get the backing for Burgon. He has very little support from his parliamentary colleagues, is the only candidate in the leadership/deputy leader election who has refused to sign the Board of Deputies ten pledges for tackling antisemitism and has used some very problematic language in the past regarding Zionism.
Angela Rayner is from the same left wing of the Labour Party but has nine of his baggage. Why endorse him? |
Have you recently employed a new social media minnow....their spelling is much worse than your previous one. |  |
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| Jess Phillips expected to drop out of the race this afternoon on 18:38 - Jan 24 with 1450 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Jess Phillips expected to drop out of the race this afternoon on 09:16 - Jan 22 by Darth_Koont |
Constantly. That's why I check myself against the evidence available.
And of course New Labour achieved more good. But they crucially failed to address structural issues in the UK - and ultimately sell the nation on the need for a more socialist outlook to balance the free-market ethos.
Ultimately, that lack of balance meant a failure to re-distribute the benefits of economic growth and left many people and regions largely where they were. Which leads to stuff like a failure to sort out the housing shortage and costs which just pushed that further down the road for someone else to deal with. Or regions and communities stagnating and shrivelling up - and then placing even more pressure on housing and infrastructure in places where there's little space left.
The people want Brexit and that's almost entirely down to narrative. Of course, there's a pressing need to disrupt if not change that debate. The key is to know what you are doing and why, and communicate that to get voters to follow you. Not follow the voters where the opposition has taken them. |
You forgot that they brought us P.F.I's too ....god bless'em! | |
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| Jess Phillips expected to drop out of the race this afternoon on 18:39 - Jan 24 with 1449 views | Darth_Koont |
| Jess Phillips expected to drop out of the race this afternoon on 18:32 - Jan 24 by GlasgowBlue |
As I said, RLB was no sunrise but I just don’t get the backing for Burgon. He has very little support from his parliamentary colleagues, is the only candidate in the leadership/deputy leader election who has refused to sign the Board of Deputies ten pledges for tackling antisemitism and has used some very problematic language in the past regarding Zionism.
Angela Rayner is from the same left wing of the Labour Party but has nine of his baggage. Why endorse him? |
Why are you obsessing about people you don't know?
If you analysed BoJo he'd be a clueless antisemitic liar. |  |
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| Jess Phillips expected to drop out of the race this afternoon on 19:09 - Jan 24 with 1421 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Jess Phillips expected to drop out of the race this afternoon on 18:39 - Jan 24 by Darth_Koont |
Why are you obsessing about people you don't know?
If you analysed BoJo he'd be a clueless antisemitic liar. |
I'm not obsessing. I just don't see what Burgon gives Labour as deputy leader that Angela Rayner doesn't.
Both from the same wing of the party but Burgon has baggage that Rayner doesn't. Especially with the EHRC report soon to be released, I don't understand the decision.
Not making any wider point that you may be looking for. | |
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| Jess Phillips expected to drop out of the race this afternoon on 19:12 - Jan 24 with 1415 views | Darth_Koont |
| Jess Phillips expected to drop out of the race this afternoon on 19:09 - Jan 24 by GlasgowBlue |
I'm not obsessing. I just don't see what Burgon gives Labour as deputy leader that Angela Rayner doesn't.
Both from the same wing of the party but Burgon has baggage that Rayner doesn't. Especially with the EHRC report soon to be released, I don't understand the decision.
Not making any wider point that you may be looking for. |
I think you should take a step back.
You've got little to no information and little to no understanding. [Post edited 24 Jan 2020 19:12]
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| Jess Phillips expected to drop out of the race this afternoon on 19:16 - Jan 24 with 1399 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Jess Phillips expected to drop out of the race this afternoon on 19:12 - Jan 24 by Darth_Koont |
I think you should take a step back.
You've got little to no information and little to no understanding. [Post edited 24 Jan 2020 19:12]
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I know he has very little support among his parliamentary colleagues. I know that he used problematic language regarding Zionism and I know he is the only one of the leadership/deputy leader candidates who has refused to sign the Board of Deputies ten pledges to tackle antisemitism (you may agree or disagree with his stance).
Taking that aside, please tell me what Burgon brings to the table that Rayner doesn't? [Post edited 24 Jan 2020 19:21]
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| Jess Phillips expected to drop out of the race this afternoon on 19:27 - Jan 24 with 1379 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Jess Phillips expected to drop out of the race this afternoon on 19:24 - Jan 24 by footers |
That he's not the preferred candidate of a lifelong Tory?  |
Angela Rayner wouldn't be my preferred choice. If I was a Labour voter I think I'd be backing Rosena Allin-Khan, who comes across very well when I've seen her on the box.
I can see no logical reason for backing Burgon over Rayner considering there is little between them politically and she is baggage free with great support form her parliamentary colleagues. | |
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| Jess Phillips expected to drop out of the race this afternoon on 19:31 - Jan 24 with 1372 views | Darth_Koont |
| Jess Phillips expected to drop out of the race this afternoon on 19:16 - Jan 24 by GlasgowBlue |
I know he has very little support among his parliamentary colleagues. I know that he used problematic language regarding Zionism and I know he is the only one of the leadership/deputy leader candidates who has refused to sign the Board of Deputies ten pledges to tackle antisemitism (you may agree or disagree with his stance).
Taking that aside, please tell me what Burgon brings to the table that Rayner doesn't? [Post edited 24 Jan 2020 19:21]
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Well, at least he's a fan of freedom of speech.
Stop selling him to me. | |
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| Jess Phillips expected to drop out of the race this afternoon on 19:48 - Jan 24 with 1341 views | itfcjoe |
| Jess Phillips expected to drop out of the race this afternoon on 18:32 - Jan 24 by GlasgowBlue |
As I said, RLB was no sunrise but I just don’t get the backing for Burgon. He has very little support from his parliamentary colleagues, is the only candidate in the leadership/deputy leader election who has refused to sign the Board of Deputies ten pledges for tackling antisemitism and has used some very problematic language in the past regarding Zionism.
Angela Rayner is from the same left wing of the Labour Party but has nine of his baggage. Why endorse him? |
Well they’ve just basically written off £1m trying to defend Skawkbox against a Labour MP, in any other ‘company’ you’d expect the boss to be falling in his sword soon. That tells you all you need to know about Len’s judgement |  |
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| Jess Phillips expected to drop out of the race this afternoon on 19:52 - Jan 24 with 1331 views | Bluesquid |
| Jess Phillips expected to drop out of the race this afternoon on 19:12 - Jan 24 by Darth_Koont |
I think you should take a step back.
You've got little to no information and little to no understanding. [Post edited 24 Jan 2020 19:12]
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And so it begins, an RLB/RB led Labour and he has a new 'target' to replace Corbyn.
Expect thread after thread after thread about RB and his "baggage" and how he is a threat and danger to this, that and the other.
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| Jess Phillips expected to drop out of the race this afternoon on 21:26 - Jan 24 with 1280 views | Darth_Koont |
| Jess Phillips expected to drop out of the race this afternoon on 19:52 - Jan 24 by Bluesquid |
And so it begins, an RLB/RB led Labour and he has a new 'target' to replace Corbyn.
Expect thread after thread after thread about RB and his "baggage" and how he is a threat and danger to this, that and the other.
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He can’t help it. That’s him living life to the max. | |
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| Jess Phillips expected to drop out of the race this afternoon on 11:51 - Jan 25 with 1196 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Jess Phillips expected to drop out of the race this afternoon on 21:26 - Jan 24 by Darth_Koont |
He can’t help it. That’s him living life to the max. |
Yet it is you who can be found on here arguing the toss up until 10.30pm on a Friday night when most normal people are out socialising with their friends and loved ones.
DK. Definitely not living life to the max. | |
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| Jess Phillips expected to drop out of the race this afternoon on 12:09 - Jan 25 with 1177 views | Darth_Koont |
| Jess Phillips expected to drop out of the race this afternoon on 11:51 - Jan 25 by GlasgowBlue |
Yet it is you who can be found on here arguing the toss up until 10.30pm on a Friday night when most normal people are out socialising with their friends and loved ones.
DK. Definitely not living life to the max. |
Luckily I am allowed out during the week too.
I'd hate to stick to the same old routines ... | |
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