| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? 22:44 - Apr 10 with 8626 views | MaySixth |
The start of the decline.
Andy Marshall - poor
Finidi George - poor
Tommy Miller - decent
Matteo Sereni - poor
Thomas Gaardsoe - ok
Richard Wright and James Scowcroft left that summer for £7m combined as well |  |
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| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 08:24 - Apr 12 with 1012 views | Churchman |
| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 11:00 - Apr 11 by ElephantintheRoom |
It didn't Burley was consistently clueless in the transerf market - and his many disastrous signings held up Town's progress - before he destroyed the club with his Prem insanity..
Whether it was pointless loans of legendary uselessness - Gerry Creaney, Samassi Abou etc.... startlingly inept signings.... Lee Chapman, Marco Holster, Jonas Axendhal, Garry Croft..... right through to the gloriously clueless signing of John Scales, Burley had more than a few marbles lose throughout his tenure. |
‘Consistently clueless’. I saw that and thought ‘eh??’, then I saw who posted it. I presume it’s a little joke of yours for Easter or something.
The team that got us promoted, bar Scowcroft, Wright and Naylor, were Burley’s signings. Croft, for the record, was a decent player. I presume you never saw him play..
Yes, GBs signings in 2001 were not his finest hour, but if you believe any manager has always got it right in the transfer market, I suggest football may not be for you. |  | | |
| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 08:45 - Apr 12 with 997 views | patrickswell |
| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 07:34 - Apr 12 by Herbivore |
That Charlton game was a real sickener. Come the end of the season, if we'd managed to convert that 2-0 lead into a win we'd have stayed up. If the ref had been competent we'd have won that game as well. Quite on top of the self inflicted issues, we didn't have much luck at all that season. |
If we’d won at Charlton but all our other results stayed the same, we’d have gone down by 1 point rather than 4. |  | | |
| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 09:11 - Apr 12 with 975 views | ITFC_Forever |
| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 08:45 - Apr 12 by patrickswell |
If we’d won at Charlton but all our other results stayed the same, we’d have gone down by 1 point rather than 4. |
So then the other Charlton game when Lisbie scores right at the end sent us down.
If you go through that season, there’s plenty of games where we threw away points... Leicester away was another - we conceded an equaliser in injury time after Savage got Sereni sent off. |  |
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| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 09:11 - Apr 12 with 976 views | WeWereZombies |
| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 01:37 - Apr 12 by The_Last_Baron |
He was at the end of his career and the 4 games he played (2 in the League Cup) he looked well past his best. He was also signed in 2000 so had no bearing on the relegation season. |
It is amazing how many errors you can pack into two short sentences, well done...
He got to the end of his career because his injuries overtook him, at thirty four I would say he was in the twilight of his career when we signed him but everyone hoped he had a few more years in him.
Expect he was signed as cover and I doubt Burley saw him to be a nailed on first name on the team sheet, we needed a bigger squad for the Premier League and I don't think we paid a fee for him.
As I said in my previous post, it was a calculated risk - one that didn't come off in the end but worth trying. If he could have been coaxed back to full fitness we would have seen a different player, and one who may have pushed for a regular place in the way Matt Elliott could have done in 2004. It has been a regular wish amongst supporters to have a calming, older head, influence at the centre of defence.
That he played in the season after promotion rather than the relegation season is irrelevant, I was replying to your other username 'ElephantInTheRoom' about his assertion that Scales was a 'clueless' signing. |  |
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| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 09:18 - Apr 12 with 966 views | Pecker |
Chuck in to the mix European football and our squad just wasn't good enough. Same story since.(except the European bit, obviously) |  | | |
| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 09:37 - Apr 12 with 949 views | The_Last_Baron |
| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 09:11 - Apr 12 by WeWereZombies |
It is amazing how many errors you can pack into two short sentences, well done...
He got to the end of his career because his injuries overtook him, at thirty four I would say he was in the twilight of his career when we signed him but everyone hoped he had a few more years in him.
Expect he was signed as cover and I doubt Burley saw him to be a nailed on first name on the team sheet, we needed a bigger squad for the Premier League and I don't think we paid a fee for him.
As I said in my previous post, it was a calculated risk - one that didn't come off in the end but worth trying. If he could have been coaxed back to full fitness we would have seen a different player, and one who may have pushed for a regular place in the way Matt Elliott could have done in 2004. It has been a regular wish amongst supporters to have a calming, older head, influence at the centre of defence.
That he played in the season after promotion rather than the relegation season is irrelevant, I was replying to your other username 'ElephantInTheRoom' about his assertion that Scales was a 'clueless' signing. |
Are you John Scales?
Matt Elliott was a superior defender to John Scales if you compare their careers. I'd say Elliott is one of the top ten central defenders to have played in the Premier League.
Scales was no good at Town. Free transfer, one year deal and 10k a week.
Hreidarsson was the star signing of 2000, but he cost 4.5million quid. Most of Burleys's signings from the era were great one. But but Scales. Stewart, Magilton and Hreidarsson the top three for me. |  |
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| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 10:11 - Apr 12 with 934 views | Radlett_blue |
| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 09:37 - Apr 12 by The_Last_Baron |
Are you John Scales?
Matt Elliott was a superior defender to John Scales if you compare their careers. I'd say Elliott is one of the top ten central defenders to have played in the Premier League.
Scales was no good at Town. Free transfer, one year deal and 10k a week.
Hreidarsson was the star signing of 2000, but he cost 4.5million quid. Most of Burleys's signings from the era were great one. But but Scales. Stewart, Magilton and Hreidarsson the top three for me. |
Really? Scales spent 13 years at the top level & was thought good enough by both Liverpool & Spurs & he won England caps. By the time he joined the latter club, he had become injury prone & he was a cheap gamble by Town which didn't come off.
Matt Elliot spent most of his career in the lower leagues, probably because he wasn't considered good enough on the ball. He did remarkably well at Leicester as a rugged centre half & yes, when we had him on loan, you could see how good he was, albeit at Championship level. But to put him as one of the top 10 PL centre backs ever is pushing it a lot. |  |
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| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 10:22 - Apr 12 with 926 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 09:37 - Apr 12 by The_Last_Baron |
Are you John Scales?
Matt Elliott was a superior defender to John Scales if you compare their careers. I'd say Elliott is one of the top ten central defenders to have played in the Premier League.
Scales was no good at Town. Free transfer, one year deal and 10k a week.
Hreidarsson was the star signing of 2000, but he cost 4.5million quid. Most of Burleys's signings from the era were great one. But but Scales. Stewart, Magilton and Hreidarsson the top three for me. |
Matt Elliott one of the top ten Premier League central defenders?
Ahahahahahahaha |  |
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| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 11:21 - Apr 12 with 906 views | ITFC_Forever |
| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 09:37 - Apr 12 by The_Last_Baron |
Are you John Scales?
Matt Elliott was a superior defender to John Scales if you compare their careers. I'd say Elliott is one of the top ten central defenders to have played in the Premier League.
Scales was no good at Town. Free transfer, one year deal and 10k a week.
Hreidarsson was the star signing of 2000, but he cost 4.5million quid. Most of Burleys's signings from the era were great one. But but Scales. Stewart, Magilton and Hreidarsson the top three for me. |
Scales, Magilton, Stewart and HH is four. | |
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| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 11:35 - Apr 12 with 890 views | Herbivore |
| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 08:45 - Apr 12 by patrickswell |
If we’d won at Charlton but all our other results stayed the same, we’d have gone down by 1 point rather than 4. |
Oh yeah, in my head we were only a couple of points off safety. |  |
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| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 11:50 - Apr 12 with 880 views | pointofblue |
| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 09:11 - Apr 12 by ITFC_Forever |
So then the other Charlton game when Lisbie scores right at the end sent us down.
If you go through that season, there’s plenty of games where we threw away points... Leicester away was another - we conceded an equaliser in injury time after Savage got Sereni sent off. |
I think our goal difference was worse than Sunderland’s so would need five points. Managing to convert against Charlton at home whilst holding on away would have been enough but football is all about if’s and but’s - I think Tottenham we’re all over us on the match at White Hart Lane that year but we came away with a 2-1 win which started our good run. |  |
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| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 12:31 - Apr 12 with 859 views | Herbivore |
| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 11:50 - Apr 12 by pointofblue |
I think our goal difference was worse than Sunderland’s so would need five points. Managing to convert against Charlton at home whilst holding on away would have been enough but football is all about if’s and but’s - I think Tottenham we’re all over us on the match at White Hart Lane that year but we came away with a 2-1 win which started our good run. |
If we'd picked up another 4 points our GD would have been better than Sunderland's. | |
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| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 12:54 - Apr 12 with 827 views | pointofblue |
| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 12:31 - Apr 12 by Herbivore |
If we'd picked up another 4 points our GD would have been better than Sunderland's. |
Was it that close? I thought theirs was much better than ours!
Opening day was important too - they gained three points on us thanks to a Kevin Phillips penalty. To this day I think that decision was soft. | |
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| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 12:56 - Apr 12 with 825 views | ITFC_Forever |
| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 12:54 - Apr 12 by pointofblue |
Was it that close? I thought theirs was much better than ours!
Opening day was important too - they gained three points on us thanks to a Kevin Phillips penalty. To this day I think that decision was soft. |
It was soft, but avoidable.
Bramble caught ball-watching as the cross came over... when he realised where his man was, he ended up fouling him. Not every ref would have given it, but unfortunately for us it was. | |
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| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 14:31 - Apr 13 with 758 views | MaySixth |
| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 11:00 - Apr 11 by ElephantintheRoom |
It didn't Burley was consistently clueless in the transerf market - and his many disastrous signings held up Town's progress - before he destroyed the club with his Prem insanity..
Whether it was pointless loans of legendary uselessness - Gerry Creaney, Samassi Abou etc.... startlingly inept signings.... Lee Chapman, Marco Holster, Jonas Axendhal, Garry Croft..... right through to the gloriously clueless signing of John Scales, Burley had more than a few marbles lose throughout his tenure. |
"Burley was consistently clueless in the transerf market"
Matt Holland
Jim Magilton
Jermaine Wright
Marcus Stewart
John McGreal
Jamie Clapham
Alun Armstrong
Martin Reusjer
David Johnson
Alex Mathie
Tony Mowbray
Bobby Petta
Mark Venus
Fabian Wilnis
Hermann Hreidarrsson | |
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| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 15:06 - Apr 13 with 729 views | ITFC_Forever |
| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 14:31 - Apr 13 by MaySixth |
"Burley was consistently clueless in the transerf market"
Matt Holland
Jim Magilton
Jermaine Wright
Marcus Stewart
John McGreal
Jamie Clapham
Alun Armstrong
Martin Reusjer
David Johnson
Alex Mathie
Tony Mowbray
Bobby Petta
Mark Venus
Fabian Wilnis
Hermann Hreidarrsson |
Chris Makin as well. | |
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| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 11:54 - Apr 14 with 657 views | MaySixth |
| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 15:06 - Apr 13 by ITFC_Forever |
Chris Makin as well. |
Yes | |
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| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 12:38 - Apr 14 with 633 views | Herbivore |
| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 15:06 - Apr 13 by ITFC_Forever |
Chris Makin as well. |
And Pablo. Let's not forget the legend that is Pablo. | |
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