| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? 22:44 - Apr 10 with 8633 views | MaySixth |
The start of the decline.
Andy Marshall - poor
Finidi George - poor
Tommy Miller - decent
Matteo Sereni - poor
Thomas Gaardsoe - ok
Richard Wright and James Scowcroft left that summer for £7m combined as well |  |
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| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 13:57 - Apr 11 with 1207 views | Herbivore |
| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 13:53 - Apr 11 by Enigma_Blue |
Maybe it's my fading memory but didn't he play mostly as a striker for us particularly when Stewart was injured?
The other thing with Finidi was that even though he was one of our better players that season he was a bit of a luxury player who went missing quite a bit particularly when the going got tough. Not the ideal player when fighting to avoid relegation. [Post edited 11 Apr 2020 13:57]
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He played as a winger mostly and that was always his primary position. He wasn't really signed for a relegation battle in fairness. |  |
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| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 14:14 - Apr 11 with 1195 views | tractordownsouth |
| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 13:54 - Apr 11 by Ace_High1 |
My memory fails me on this one, did Reuser play much that season? He was certainly underused when we came back down and was very good in the first year in the Premiership. |
I was 2 years old at the time so I'd wager your memory will be slightly better than mine! |  |
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| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 14:34 - Apr 11 with 1175 views | Radlett_blue |
| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 13:54 - Apr 11 by Ace_High1 |
My memory fails me on this one, did Reuser play much that season? He was certainly underused when we came back down and was very good in the first year in the Premiership. |
Reuser only started half our PL games that season. GB understandably didn't fully trust him, especially in a struggling team as tracking back wasn't his speciality. That was another issue, a constantly changing side, with Jim never really fully fit & starting less often than Reuser. Matt Holland was the only regular in midfield that season. |  |
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| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 14:35 - Apr 11 with 1174 views | ElephantintheRoom |
| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 13:39 - Apr 11 by tractordownsouth |
Yeah, Holland, Magilton, Stewart, Wright, Johnson and Venus were rubbish weren't they? |
Nobody is denying that a few of his signings were good... just pointing out that the vast majority were disastrously bad.
For a small club like Town it has to be the other way around... most good, some bad.
The most damning evidence that condemns Burley, other than his cotninual need for 'an experienced coach' ie someone who knew what he was doing was his absolute insanity of signing 'European experience'...the polar opposite of what was actually needed. |  |
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| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 14:41 - Apr 11 with 1168 views | Herbivore |
| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 14:35 - Apr 11 by ElephantintheRoom |
Nobody is denying that a few of his signings were good... just pointing out that the vast majority were disastrously bad.
For a small club like Town it has to be the other way around... most good, some bad.
The most damning evidence that condemns Burley, other than his cotninual need for 'an experienced coach' ie someone who knew what he was doing was his absolute insanity of signing 'European experience'...the polar opposite of what was actually needed. |
Has George Burley slotted your wife at some point? | |
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| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 14:47 - Apr 11 with 1165 views | ElephantintheRoom |
| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 14:41 - Apr 11 by Herbivore |
Has George Burley slotted your wife at some point? |
erm no... just destroyed the club with clueless mismanagement compounded by the sheer greed of pursuing a million pound pay off for doing the polar opposite of what he was being grossly overpaid to do.
Surprised you dont know what led Town to their current low point.
Did he 'slot your wife'? | |
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| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 14:56 - Apr 11 with 1160 views | Herbivore |
| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 14:47 - Apr 11 by ElephantintheRoom |
erm no... just destroyed the club with clueless mismanagement compounded by the sheer greed of pursuing a million pound pay off for doing the polar opposite of what he was being grossly overpaid to do.
Surprised you dont know what led Town to their current low point.
Did he 'slot your wife'? |
No, but if he had done then as an ITFC legend I'd have given him a pass. | |
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| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 15:06 - Apr 11 with 1150 views | WeWereZombies |
| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 11:00 - Apr 11 by ElephantintheRoom |
It didn't Burley was consistently clueless in the transerf market - and his many disastrous signings held up Town's progress - before he destroyed the club with his Prem insanity..
Whether it was pointless loans of legendary uselessness - Gerry Creaney, Samassi Abou etc.... startlingly inept signings.... Lee Chapman, Marco Holster, Jonas Axendhal, Garry Croft..... right through to the gloriously clueless signing of John Scales, Burley had more than a few marbles lose throughout his tenure. |
There was nothing clueless about the signing of John Scales - it was a risk given his increasing susceptibility to injuries but if he had held up for even a dozen games it would firmed up our defence no end. It was a real shame we only got to see two games of a player who could have been immense for us. |  |
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| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 15:17 - Apr 11 with 1136 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 13:53 - Apr 11 by Enigma_Blue |
Maybe it's my fading memory but didn't he play mostly as a striker for us particularly when Stewart was injured?
The other thing with Finidi was that even though he was one of our better players that season he was a bit of a luxury player who went missing quite a bit particularly when the going got tough. Not the ideal player when fighting to avoid relegation. [Post edited 11 Apr 2020 13:57]
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Burley told him to keep tracking back and getting the ball. You can't ask someone like Finidi to do that.
You have to give him the ball! |  |
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| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 16:39 - Apr 11 with 1095 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 14:41 - Apr 11 by Herbivore |
Has George Burley slotted your wife at some point? |
He's a budgie troll. Best ignored. |  |
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| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 17:07 - Apr 11 with 1083 views | ITFC_Forever |
| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 14:41 - Apr 11 by Herbivore |
Has George Burley slotted your wife at some point? |
Elephant and all his previous incarnations have always hated Burley. |  |
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| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 17:16 - Apr 11 with 1074 views | MaySixth |
| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 07:16 - Apr 11 by Herbivore |
Sheepshanks didn't identify the targets. [Post edited 11 Apr 2020 8:04]
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it's odd because Burley's strength was recruitment and his eye for a player
must of been the pressure of buying in a different market with money behind him | |
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| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 17:42 - Apr 11 with 1066 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 17:16 - Apr 11 by MaySixth |
it's odd because Burley's strength was recruitment and his eye for a player
must of been the pressure of buying in a different market with money behind him |
Possibly.
I think maybe everyone's heads were turned and such was our success I think they wanted to move on to the next level. | |
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| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 18:13 - Apr 11 with 1056 views | Herbivore |
| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 17:07 - Apr 11 by ITFC_Forever |
Elephant and all his previous incarnations have always hated Burley. |
Ooh, what previous incarnations? | |
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| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 18:38 - Apr 11 with 1048 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 18:13 - Apr 11 by Herbivore |
Ooh, what previous incarnations? |
HARRY10 I suspect | |
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| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 18:57 - Apr 11 with 1028 views | Herbivore |
| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 18:38 - Apr 11 by Lord_Lucan |
HARRY10 I suspect |
Nah, this goon started posting way before Hazza disappeared. This one makes fewer spelling and grammar errors too. | |
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| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 19:28 - Apr 11 with 1011 views | ITFC_Forever |
| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 18:13 - Apr 11 by Herbivore |
Ooh, what previous incarnations? |
NerdyKnowAll and VoiceOfReason were certainly two of them. There’s another one or two as well, but I’ve forgotten the names. | |
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| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 22:55 - Apr 11 with 955 views | NthQldITFC |
| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 18:13 - Apr 11 by Herbivore |
Ooh, what previous incarnations? |
RoomInTheElephant? |  |
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| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 01:06 - Apr 12 with 932 views | patrickswell |
| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 19:28 - Apr 11 by ITFC_Forever |
NerdyKnowAll and VoiceOfReason were certainly two of them. There’s another one or two as well, but I’ve forgotten the names. |
Newmarket Blue? That one dates back to 2001-02 as well.
I don’t share his vitriol because of everything Burley, Sheepshanks and so many of the guys who played for us built up from 1996 up to mid 2001...but it breaks my heart to have to agree that decisions and performances in 2001/02 were effectively the knife wound into ITFC that we’ve progressively bled out from ever since. |  | | |
| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 01:34 - Apr 12 with 928 views | The_Last_Baron |
Gaardsoe and MIller were great signings, although neither would really show their worth until the following season.
Selling Scowcroft was a mistake as he was a key player for us. Wright wanted to go and only getting £1.5million for him was a blow. A deal to sign Mart Poom was 99% done until Derby pulled the plug. That was another blow.
Another reason for our poor results in the season was Marcus Stewart's broken jaw We also had little luck going for us, Lisbie's freak goal for Charlton was unbelievable. Stewart scored a last minute goal at home to Blackburn which was disallowed for nothing.
However when we beat Everton in February we were on 30 points from 25 games - five clear of the drop. We were also on a run of 7 wins in 8, the Charlton 3-2 defeat the only league loss in this run. Losing 0-6 at home to Liverpool and then 1-3 to Southampton seemed to ruin our confidence. |  |
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| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 01:37 - Apr 12 with 929 views | The_Last_Baron |
| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 15:06 - Apr 11 by WeWereZombies |
There was nothing clueless about the signing of John Scales - it was a risk given his increasing susceptibility to injuries but if he had held up for even a dozen games it would firmed up our defence no end. It was a real shame we only got to see two games of a player who could have been immense for us. |
He was at the end of his career and the 4 games he played (2 in the League Cup) he looked well past his best. He was also signed in 2000 so had no bearing on the relegation season. | |
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| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 07:20 - Apr 12 with 908 views | ChateauWines |
| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 23:24 - Apr 10 by Moriarty |
Richard Wright, was imho, the sale that undid us in a big way. His agent, J Barnett Esq, played his part and if I recall correctly, Arsenal met the release fee and Wright wanted the move. Scowle, again if I recall correctly, wasn’t overly enthusiastic about the way GB was deploying him.
I think we lost twice to Charlton that season including after being 2 up in the Valley. I’m open to correction there. |
Totally agree with RW departure. However at the time he had broken into England side , Arsenal were top drawer and Seaman was coming to the end. When we went to Charlton around Xmas time, had we not just won 8/9 or something silly and we were talking of late run for Europe again? I was in front row at The Valley (or was it Selhurst Park then? I cant remember), but as you say we were 2 up in no time and I put my feet up on hoarding in front of me smoking and imaginary cigar. It all turned to rubbish from that moment. The last time I really thought we were the nuts. | |
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| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 07:34 - Apr 12 with 901 views | Herbivore |
| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 07:20 - Apr 12 by ChateauWines |
Totally agree with RW departure. However at the time he had broken into England side , Arsenal were top drawer and Seaman was coming to the end. When we went to Charlton around Xmas time, had we not just won 8/9 or something silly and we were talking of late run for Europe again? I was in front row at The Valley (or was it Selhurst Park then? I cant remember), but as you say we were 2 up in no time and I put my feet up on hoarding in front of me smoking and imaginary cigar. It all turned to rubbish from that moment. The last time I really thought we were the nuts. |
That Charlton game was a real sickener. Come the end of the season, if we'd managed to convert that 2-0 lead into a win we'd have stayed up. If the ref had been competent we'd have won that game as well. Quite on top of the self inflicted issues, we didn't have much luck at all that season. | |
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| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 07:49 - Apr 12 with 897 views | WeWereZombies |
| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 01:06 - Apr 12 by patrickswell |
Newmarket Blue? That one dates back to 2001-02 as well.
I don’t share his vitriol because of everything Burley, Sheepshanks and so many of the guys who played for us built up from 1996 up to mid 2001...but it breaks my heart to have to agree that decisions and performances in 2001/02 were effectively the knife wound into ITFC that we’ve progressively bled out from ever since. |
I'd forgotten NewmarketBlue, thanks for bringing back that stale odour. What a phenomenal pain in the rear those postings were. | |
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| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 08:13 - Apr 12 with 885 views | ITFC_Forever |
| Why did Burley's brilliant recruitment go awry in the summer of 2001? on 01:06 - Apr 12 by patrickswell |
Newmarket Blue? That one dates back to 2001-02 as well.
I don’t share his vitriol because of everything Burley, Sheepshanks and so many of the guys who played for us built up from 1996 up to mid 2001...but it breaks my heart to have to agree that decisions and performances in 2001/02 were effectively the knife wound into ITFC that we’ve progressively bled out from ever since. |
No, Newmie was a different poster entirely, they were both posting at the same time. | |
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