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RFU reviewing the singing of Swing Low, Sweet Chariot 22:26 - Jun 18 with 4264 viewsStokieBlue

https://metro.co.uk/2020/06/18/england-rugby-fans-banned-singing-swing-low-sweet

"And the prospect of fans being told that the song can no longer be sung is now being considered."

I'd never really thought about the origins of the song to be honest, it was just something sung by the fans for many decades.

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RFU reviewing the singing of Swing Low, Sweet Chariot on 11:22 - Jun 19 with 450 viewsJakeITFC

RFU reviewing the singing of Swing Low, Sweet Chariot on 11:13 - Jun 19 by lowhouseblue

you are trying to create an entirely false dichotomy. i don't see anything to suggest that anyone on this thread denies the problem with racism in this country. but racism and socio-economic inequality in this country has nothing to do with people singing swing low sweet chariot.

and do you realise that people can 'learn about the history, read books and articles' and still have different views to you? perhaps they even read more widely than you. it's very arrogant to assume that people only have a different view to you because they are uneducated. and saying people who have a different view to you are 'part of the problem' is very blinkered and intolerant.


Of course I realise that people have different views, but seeing how this thread started with people not realising the context of the history of this song, my point stands on how informed discussion and reading is important.

As I've said above, I don't think the song should be banned, and I don't think it is necessarily racist to sing it. However, shutting down debate of it is a problem.
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RFU reviewing the singing of Swing Low, Sweet Chariot on 11:24 - Jun 19 with 447 viewsJakeITFC

RFU reviewing the singing of Swing Low, Sweet Chariot on 11:13 - Jun 19 by giant_stow

While I understand and even respect your hard-core uncompromising approach, I do think the people who need to be reached most will tend to react better to a more gentlly-influencing tack.


With all due respect, I've had similar arguments with similar people on this board over the last ten years (on semantics, language, systemic racism etc.) and it isn't working.
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RFU reviewing the singing of Swing Low, Sweet Chariot on 11:30 - Jun 19 with 431 viewsDarth_Koont

RFU reviewing the singing of Swing Low, Sweet Chariot on 11:22 - Jun 19 by JakeITFC

Of course I realise that people have different views, but seeing how this thread started with people not realising the context of the history of this song, my point stands on how informed discussion and reading is important.

As I've said above, I don't think the song should be banned, and I don't think it is necessarily racist to sing it. However, shutting down debate of it is a problem.


Agreed.

We shouldn't be afraid to discuss issues and take on board people's concerns. Especially with things like Swing Low that definitely occupy a grey area.

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RFU reviewing the singing of Swing Low, Sweet Chariot on 11:34 - Jun 19 with 419 viewsSwansea_Blue

I hope they keep it, if only becasue the response here in Wales makes me chuckle:

You can stick your fkn chariot up your ar5e
You can stick your fkn chariot up your ar5e
You can stick your fkn chariot
Stick your fkn chariot
You can stick your fkn chariot up your ar5e!


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RFU reviewing the singing of Swing Low, Sweet Chariot on 13:12 - Jun 19 with 353 viewsBluespeed225

RFU reviewing the singing of Swing Low, Sweet Chariot on 09:54 - Jun 19 by GlasgowBlue

Rock and roll was built on white singers appropriating songs recorded previously by black singer/songwriters, singing it in the style of a black singer and not paying one penny to the original artist.

Should we wipe rock and roll off the history books?

Led Zeplin we’re still doing it in the 70’s. Rod Stewart’s record label in the states tried to keep his image off the cover of his earliest work so black stations would play him thinking he was black.
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Ive been involved with Northern Soul since early 80's, and have many, many records and cd's featuring the clenched black fist symbol, which was initially used as a show a working class solidarity from white kids towards black US artists. will this now be frowned upon? slippery slope if so. Looking forward to first do' after lockdown!
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RFU reviewing the singing of Swing Low, Sweet Chariot on 15:51 - Jun 19 with 311 viewsGlasgowBlue

RFU reviewing the singing of Swing Low, Sweet Chariot on 13:12 - Jun 19 by Bluespeed225

Ive been involved with Northern Soul since early 80's, and have many, many records and cd's featuring the clenched black fist symbol, which was initially used as a show a working class solidarity from white kids towards black US artists. will this now be frowned upon? slippery slope if so. Looking forward to first do' after lockdown!


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RFU reviewing the singing of Swing Low, Sweet Chariot on 16:44 - Jun 19 with 271 viewssparks

RFU reviewing the singing of Swing Low, Sweet Chariot on 15:51 - Jun 19 by GlasgowBlue

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