| Simon Grayson turns down Wigan job. Now speaking to John Sheridan 15:04 - Sep 10 with 3050 views | MaySixth |
no fit central defenders |  |
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| Simon Grayson turns down Wigan job. Now speaking to John Sheridan on 15:18 - Sep 10 with 2583 views | abracaDOBRA_ |
Looks like their RB Byrne is on his way to Derby today as well |  | | |
| Simon Grayson turns down Wigan job. Now speaking to John Sheridan on 15:22 - Sep 10 with 2557 views | Herbivore |
Say hi to John for me. |  |
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| Simon Grayson turns down Wigan job. Now speaking to John Sheridan on 15:23 - Sep 10 with 2564 views | hector_clifford |
Paul Cook can definitely spot a player.
I can't believe how many of their players are being bought by clubs higher up the football pyramid. |  |
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| Simon Grayson turns down Wigan job. Now speaking to John Sheridan on 15:25 - Sep 10 with 2533 views | Wacko |
| Simon Grayson turns down Wigan job. Now speaking to John Sheridan on 15:23 - Sep 10 by hector_clifford |
Paul Cook can definitely spot a player.
I can't believe how many of their players are being bought by clubs higher up the football pyramid. |
They're a mid-table champ team that's why | |
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| Simon Grayson turns down Wigan job. Now speaking to John Sheridan on 15:33 - Sep 10 with 2497 views | JammyDodgerrr |
Ooft, as a second club Chesterfield fan, Sheridan is not good at all. What a situation the owners have plunged that club into. |  |
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| Simon Grayson turns down Wigan job. Now speaking to John Sheridan on 16:09 - Sep 10 with 2343 views | tractordownsouth |
Situation must be pretty bad if Grayson's turned it down. His stock has fallen recently and there won't be many L1 clubs taking a punt on him. |  |
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| Simon Grayson turns down Wigan job. Now speaking to John Sheridan on 16:09 - Sep 10 with 2345 views | hector_clifford |
| Simon Grayson turns down Wigan job. Now speaking to John Sheridan on 15:25 - Sep 10 by Wacko |
They're a mid-table champ team that's why |
Is that a good thing then?
Because most people here weren't happy with us being a mid table championship team.
My point was about Cook. (Who made them the mid table championship team) | |
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| Simon Grayson turns down Wigan job. Now speaking to John Sheridan on 16:11 - Sep 10 with 2333 views | Coco |
Ipswich 0 - 4 Wigan |  |
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| Simon Grayson turns down Wigan job. Now speaking to John Sheridan on 16:13 - Sep 10 with 2349 views | PhilTWTD |
Just spoke to a friend of mine who covers Waterford, where Sheridan recently became manager. He says tomorrow is expected to be his last game. Sheridan is based in the North-West so the move makes sense for him. |  | | |
| Simon Grayson turns down Wigan job. Now speaking to John Sheridan on 16:14 - Sep 10 with 2312 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Simon Grayson turns down Wigan job. Now speaking to John Sheridan on 16:11 - Sep 10 by Coco |
Ipswich 0 - 4 Wigan |
Sorry, I dont think that result has ever occurred.
#fakenews |  |
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| Simon Grayson turns down Wigan job. Now speaking to John Sheridan on 16:15 - Sep 10 with 2302 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Simon Grayson turns down Wigan job. Now speaking to John Sheridan on 16:13 - Sep 10 by PhilTWTD |
Just spoke to a friend of mine who covers Waterford, where Sheridan recently became manager. He says tomorrow is expected to be his last game. Sheridan is based in the North-West so the move makes sense for him. |
Former Oldham manager.
Talksport will be discussing this move for days! #judas | |
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| Simon Grayson turns down Wigan job. Now speaking to John Sheridan on 16:18 - Sep 10 with 2287 views | Wacko |
| Simon Grayson turns down Wigan job. Now speaking to John Sheridan on 16:09 - Sep 10 by hector_clifford |
Is that a good thing then?
Because most people here weren't happy with us being a mid table championship team.
My point was about Cook. (Who made them the mid table championship team) |
I know. It was your use of the phrase 'higher up the football pyramid'.
And in answer to your first and second points, progression is a good thing, stagnation isn't | |
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| Simon Grayson turns down Wigan job. Now speaking to John Sheridan on 16:19 - Sep 10 with 2291 views | tractordownsouth |
| Simon Grayson turns down Wigan job. Now speaking to John Sheridan on 16:15 - Sep 10 by Marshalls_Mullet |
Former Oldham manager.
Talksport will be discussing this move for days! #judas |
He's had decent jobs before, but he seems to have no loyalty whatsoever. He hopped from Newport to Oldham, then to Notts County and back to Oldham within the space of a year. Then he ditched Carlisle for Chesterfield shortly after.
He's the dictionary definition of a journeyman, but it must be hard to turn down Wigan when you're managing in the Irish League - even in the state they're in. | |
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| Simon Grayson turns down Wigan job. Now speaking to John Sheridan on 16:20 - Sep 10 with 2276 views | Coco |
| Simon Grayson turns down Wigan job. Now speaking to John Sheridan on 16:14 - Sep 10 by Marshalls_Mullet |
Sorry, I dont think that result has ever occurred.
#fakenews |
would be ultimate 'banter era' result. | |
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| Simon Grayson turns down Wigan job. Now speaking to John Sheridan on 16:22 - Sep 10 with 2262 views | hector_clifford |
| Simon Grayson turns down Wigan job. Now speaking to John Sheridan on 16:18 - Sep 10 by Wacko |
I know. It was your use of the phrase 'higher up the football pyramid'.
And in answer to your first and second points, progression is a good thing, stagnation isn't |
Yes but regression isn't better than stagnation.
Football pyramid is the wrong term then, but better championship clubs and even premier league clubs are buying their players. [Post edited 10 Sep 2020 16:26]
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| Simon Grayson turns down Wigan job. Now speaking to John Sheridan on 16:31 - Sep 10 with 2201 views | ITFC_Forever |
| Simon Grayson turns down Wigan job. Now speaking to John Sheridan on 16:14 - Sep 10 by Marshalls_Mullet |
Sorry, I dont think that result has ever occurred.
#fakenews |
At the risk of a whoosh, Wigan did indeed beat us by that scoreline in the League Cup a few years ago (featuring Titus Bramble in their side). |  |
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| Simon Grayson turns down Wigan job. Now speaking to John Sheridan on 16:40 - Sep 10 with 2148 views | Wacko |
| Simon Grayson turns down Wigan job. Now speaking to John Sheridan on 16:22 - Sep 10 by hector_clifford |
Yes but regression isn't better than stagnation.
Football pyramid is the wrong term then, but better championship clubs and even premier league clubs are buying their players. [Post edited 10 Sep 2020 16:26]
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It could be. Plenty of teams regressed and then progressed within our ~18 year stagnation period. It's good to take a risk some times. It's just a shame we have an owner incapable of putting any thought into his decisions | |
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| Simon Grayson turns down Wigan job. Now speaking to John Sheridan on 16:40 - Sep 10 with 2149 views | patrickswell |
| Simon Grayson turns down Wigan job. Now speaking to John Sheridan on 16:31 - Sep 10 by ITFC_Forever |
At the risk of a whoosh, Wigan did indeed beat us by that scoreline in the League Cup a few years ago (featuring Titus Bramble in their side). |
Pedant alert - it was actually 4-1. |  | | |
| Simon Grayson turns down Wigan job. Now speaking to John Sheridan on 16:57 - Sep 10 with 2088 views | bournemouthblue |
| Simon Grayson turns down Wigan job. Now speaking to John Sheridan on 16:09 - Sep 10 by hector_clifford |
Is that a good thing then?
Because most people here weren't happy with us being a mid table championship team.
My point was about Cook. (Who made them the mid table championship team) |
The shelf should be a bit higher than that for a club like ours, not that Marcus Evans has necessarily received that memo
I appreciate about two thirds of the Championship have the same ambition nowadays but we should be pushing in the Championship
It's a sad reflection of where we now are
It wasn't so long ago that 15th was our lowest finish for over half a century |  |
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| Simon Grayson turns down Wigan job. Now speaking to John Sheridan on 17:22 - Sep 10 with 1985 views | TheTrueBlue1878 |
| Simon Grayson turns down Wigan job. Now speaking to John Sheridan on 15:18 - Sep 10 by abracaDOBRA_ |
Looks like their RB Byrne is on his way to Derby today as well |
Probably there final decent asset, maybe Naismith as well. |  |
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| Simon Grayson turns down Wigan job. Now speaking to John Sheridan on 17:44 - Sep 10 with 1918 views | Herbivore |
| Simon Grayson turns down Wigan job. Now speaking to John Sheridan on 16:57 - Sep 10 by bournemouthblue |
The shelf should be a bit higher than that for a club like ours, not that Marcus Evans has necessarily received that memo
I appreciate about two thirds of the Championship have the same ambition nowadays but we should be pushing in the Championship
It's a sad reflection of where we now are
It wasn't so long ago that 15th was our lowest finish for over half a century |
I'm not sure we really can expect much more than midtable in the Championship, sadly. I've been going to Portman Road now for 31 years and in those 31 years we've only spent 5 of them in the top flight and another 6 or 7 finishing in the top 6 of the second tier. For most of that time we've been a middling second tier side, now worse still.
There are numerous sides who have as much if not more of a claim to be pushing for promotion to the Prem. There's at least three sides in our current division that have spent more time in the Prem than we have, at least five that have been in it more recently than us too. That's before even looking at the division above. Even in terms of things like attendance, we're in the lower middle reaches of the Championship.
I'm not sure in what sense we're a club that should rightfully expect to be at the top end of the second tier. We can't harp back to a golden era that's now 40 years distant and still think of ourselves as a big club. That might be massively depressing but it's the reality of where we are and where our standing is in English football over a sustained period of time. | |
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| Simon Grayson turns down Wigan job. Now speaking to John Sheridan on 18:01 - Sep 10 with 1836 views | brazil1982 |
0-0 then. | | | |
| Simon Grayson turns down Wigan job. Now speaking to John Sheridan on 18:16 - Sep 10 with 1790 views | gordon |
| Simon Grayson turns down Wigan job. Now speaking to John Sheridan on 16:20 - Sep 10 by Coco |
would be ultimate 'banter era' result. |
Top for me would be if they brought in Paul Hurst as boss a couple of days before the game and then Garner won it with a 30 yarder. |  | | |
| Simon Grayson turns down Wigan job. Now speaking to John Sheridan on 19:49 - Sep 10 with 1636 views | RedX |
| Simon Grayson turns down Wigan job. Now speaking to John Sheridan on 16:19 - Sep 10 by tractordownsouth |
He's had decent jobs before, but he seems to have no loyalty whatsoever. He hopped from Newport to Oldham, then to Notts County and back to Oldham within the space of a year. Then he ditched Carlisle for Chesterfield shortly after.
He's the dictionary definition of a journeyman, but it must be hard to turn down Wigan when you're managing in the Irish League - even in the state they're in. |
He’s not managing in the “Irish League”. |  | | |
| Simon Grayson turns down Wigan job. Now speaking to John Sheridan on 21:00 - Sep 10 with 1502 views | tractordownsouth |
| Simon Grayson turns down Wigan job. Now speaking to John Sheridan on 19:49 - Sep 10 by RedX |
He’s not managing in the “Irish League”. |
Was talking about Sheridan, not Grayson | |
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