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A couple of the drawbacks are the lack of regularity and output. Still, we must innovate like hell to get our reliance on fossil fuels to a minimum so I'm happy to see this.
There is a good piece on TedTalks about this....will see if I can find it later. The chap talks in detail about subsidies, output, regularity and nuclear.
Innovate the problem, don't tax it.
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Those who assume they know you, when they don't are just guessing.
Those who assume and insist they know are daft and in denial.
Those who assume, insist, and deny the truth are plain stupid.
Those who assume, insist, deny the truth and tell YOU they know you (when they don't) have an IQ in the range of 35-49.
Is he providing the wind himself? on 09:58 - Oct 6 by Swansea_Blue
I'm pretty that's tongue in cheek. It's classic, self-deprecating Johnson. The party laps up his self references of that sort, and of course they'll be happy to see 'the lefties' get wound up over it.
laughing at Johnson's incompetence is hardly getting 'wound up'
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Is he providing the wind himself? on 10:16 - Oct 6 with 837 views
Is he providing the wind himself? on 10:11 - Oct 6 by hampstead_blue
I read about wind and solar.
A couple of the drawbacks are the lack of regularity and output. Still, we must innovate like hell to get our reliance on fossil fuels to a minimum so I'm happy to see this.
There is a good piece on TedTalks about this....will see if I can find it later. The chap talks in detail about subsidies, output, regularity and nuclear.
Innovate the problem, don't tax it.
How is output a drawback? Be more precise.
Regularity is an issue but can be offset by:
- Battery storage when there is excess production - Pumped hydro storage - Base line "instant" power such as 3rd generation nuclear
SB
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Is he providing the wind himself? on 10:21 - Oct 6 with 823 views
The kicker is in the last para in that link isn't it? If we need coal to make steel, isn't it better to dig it up locally, get the jobs, and not transport it around the world?
I'm probably missing something important.
Has anyone ever looked at their own postings for last day or so? Oh my... so sorry. Was Ullaa
Is he providing the wind himself? on 10:27 - Oct 6 by giant_stow
The kicker is in the last para in that link isn't it? If we need coal to make steel, isn't it better to dig it up locally, get the jobs, and not transport it around the world?
I'm probably missing something important.
Given how well the government have supported the steel industry in recent times, I suspect the point about local jobs is largely moot.
I'm one of the people who was blamed for getting Paul Cook sacked. PM for the full post.
Is he providing the wind himself? on 09:23 - Oct 6 by JakeITFC
I have to say as somebody who works in this field, I was worried that this pandemic would allow some of these green policies to be swept away in the face of difficult economic conditions. Credit is definitely due to the current (and tbf the previous) government who have kept the cutting of carbon emissions very much on the agenda.
And they've done pretty well in this field over the last decade - our share of global/European wind power generation has been steadily rising. They could make a lot more of this relative success, but don't for some reason. Maybe they think it wouldn't appeal to their base? Or maybe they've just not thought to exploit it. Dunno.
Is he providing the wind himself? on 09:54 - Oct 6 by Swansea_Blue
It depends on their target, which isn't clear. That article quotes Johnson as saying "We believe that in 10 years’ time offshore wind will be powering every home in the country, with our target rising from 30 gigawatts to 40 gigawatts”.
Current offshore wind has an installed capacity of about 8.5GW, with another 10.5GW currently under construction or going through planning for delivery by 2025. So are they saying they want to get that up to 40GW, i.e. another 21GW between 2025 and 2030? I'd have thought the chances of that are slim to zero, as it takes at least a decade to get these things built and would need at least a doubling of current construction rates.
If they mean a target of total wind including onshore, currently it's at about 25GW, so they need to get 15GW additional offshore built with 10.5 of that in the pipeline by 2025 - so just about doable, maybe.
Luckily they only have to offer the lots through the Crown Estate and experienced developers will do the rest,so it's more likely to happen than Johnson's cuckoo ideas!
There's a big difference between installed capacity and output though. I can't recall the latest figures, offshore wind being much better than onshore wind here but it's still less than for thermal plants.
The Renewable Obligation was a really good piece of legislation in intent and results, although it had flaws, being technology blind in particular, and government policy has largely built on that.
More renewable generation is happening and is a good thing, one the government is right to encourage but this feels like a target plucked out of the same orifice as those for covid testing.
Is he providing the wind himself? on 10:42 - Oct 6 by Steve_M
There's a big difference between installed capacity and output though. I can't recall the latest figures, offshore wind being much better than onshore wind here but it's still less than for thermal plants.
The Renewable Obligation was a really good piece of legislation in intent and results, although it had flaws, being technology blind in particular, and government policy has largely built on that.
More renewable generation is happening and is a good thing, one the government is right to encourage but this feels like a target plucked out of the same orifice as those for covid testing.
There's a real push for the installation of subsidy free solar and onshore wind right now, investors seeing enough of a merchant return in traditional wholesale markets, plus balancing mechanism and ancillary markets now that barriers to entry are being removed.
Really interesting time in the UK energy space.
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Is he providing the wind himself? on 11:03 - Oct 6 with 769 views
Is he providing the wind himself? on 10:42 - Oct 6 by Steve_M
There's a big difference between installed capacity and output though. I can't recall the latest figures, offshore wind being much better than onshore wind here but it's still less than for thermal plants.
The Renewable Obligation was a really good piece of legislation in intent and results, although it had flaws, being technology blind in particular, and government policy has largely built on that.
More renewable generation is happening and is a good thing, one the government is right to encourage but this feels like a target plucked out of the same orifice as those for covid testing.
Agreed. I suspect they're talking about capacity. Everything they do though is couched in populsit terms - it takes quite a bit of digging to understand the implications.
Is he providing the wind himself? on 10:16 - Oct 6 by StokieBlue
How is output a drawback? Be more precise.
Regularity is an issue but can be offset by:
- Battery storage when there is excess production - Pumped hydro storage - Base line "instant" power such as 3rd generation nuclear
SB
It was on Ted Talks. Bjorn Lomborg The youtube video is really good.
Output was mentioned a few times as being lower as budgets were set for times of higher winds. Along with regularity I get the impression they were discussing the option of wind power as a positive but with caveats.
We need to invest in innovation. We clearly don't have the answer yet but the more we invest in finding it, the sooner it will arrive.
Assumption is to make an ass out of you and me.
Those who assume they know you, when they don't are just guessing.
Those who assume and insist they know are daft and in denial.
Those who assume, insist, and deny the truth are plain stupid.
Those who assume, insist, deny the truth and tell YOU they know you (when they don't) have an IQ in the range of 35-49.
Is he providing the wind himself? on 10:38 - Oct 6 by Swansea_Blue
And they've done pretty well in this field over the last decade - our share of global/European wind power generation has been steadily rising. They could make a lot more of this relative success, but don't for some reason. Maybe they think it wouldn't appeal to their base? Or maybe they've just not thought to exploit it. Dunno.
or maybe they are in hock to oil companies, that’s why Cameron 'clamped down' on onshore wind farms and
"A senior Tory source said: "The prime minister is going round Number 10 saying: 'We have got to get rid of all this green crap'. He is totally focussed on it. We used to say 'Vote Blue, Go Green', now it's 'Vote Blue, Get Real'."
And the irony of someone who blows with the wind, now spouting about wind farms will not be lost on most.
Meanwhile he is again trying to re-assure folk that he really is a clueless twt
"The prime minister urged the public to recognise that self-isolation, when instructed, was “the way to make it work. “£500 if you do, per week, and a £10,000 fine if you don’t,” he told reporters.
Mr Johnson’s spokesman was asked why it appeared he did not “know his own rules”, but declined to answer."
Delboy had a better grasp of the French language, that Johnson has on what is government line is. No wonder so much of this is a continuous cock-up.
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Is he providing the wind himself? on 11:55 - Oct 6 with 743 views