| I wonder if Lewis will think lives matter here on 20:03 - Nov 5 with 2234 views | eireblue |
| I wonder if Lewis will think lives matter here on 19:52 - Nov 5 by gtsb1966 |
Cheers but I wouldn't bother trying to explain . The usual suspects always come out and twist things. It makes me laugh actually and yes I was having a dig at Hamilton's hypocrisy. I'm now going to sit back and see which poster twists this and gets upset first. Now where's that beer. |
Intellectual cowardice. |  | |  |
| I wonder if Lewis will think lives matter here on 20:05 - Nov 5 with 2229 views | footers |
| I wonder if Lewis will think lives matter here on 20:03 - Nov 5 by gtsb1966 |
Who has suggested Hamilton is racist? |
PassionNotAnger in suggesting that those who support BLM are racist. Happy to help. |  |
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| I wonder if Lewis will think lives matter here on 20:07 - Nov 5 with 2213 views | IpswichBoyBlue |
| I wonder if Lewis will think lives matter here on 20:05 - Nov 5 by footers |
PassionNotAnger in suggesting that those who support BLM are racist. Happy to help. |
Think he meant the Op, not Hamilton. |  | | |
| I wonder if Lewis will think lives matter here on 20:09 - Nov 5 with 2210 views | Barneycurley |
| I wonder if Lewis will think lives matter here on 20:03 - Nov 5 by gtsb1966 |
Who has suggested Hamilton is racist? |
I think by the mere suggestion that LH is a massive hypocrite that you by default are calling him racist - its the standard defence on here. |  |
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| I wonder if Lewis will think lives matter here on 20:09 - Nov 5 with 2204 views | PassionNotAnger |
| I wonder if Lewis will think lives matter here on 20:05 - Nov 5 by footers |
PassionNotAnger in suggesting that those who support BLM are racist. Happy to help. |
Eh?? I was taking the p out of the idiot having a dig at Hamilton, not at Hamilton himself who I think has been consistent, passionate and appropriate in his support of BLM. |  | | |
| I wonder if Lewis will think lives matter here on 20:11 - Nov 5 with 2198 views | IpswichBoyBlue |
| I wonder if Lewis will think lives matter here on 20:09 - Nov 5 by PassionNotAnger |
Eh?? I was taking the p out of the idiot having a dig at Hamilton, not at Hamilton himself who I think has been consistent, passionate and appropriate in his support of BLM. |
That is how I read it. Not sure why the others jumped to that conclusion. | | | |
| I wonder if Lewis will think lives matter here on 20:14 - Nov 5 with 2187 views | Barneycurley |
| I wonder if Lewis will think lives matter here on 20:09 - Nov 5 by PassionNotAnger |
Eh?? I was taking the p out of the idiot having a dig at Hamilton, not at Hamilton himself who I think has been consistent, passionate and appropriate in his support of BLM. |
He has, he just cherry picks what he decides to turn a blind eye too - which to some people kind of makes him disingenuous. | |
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| I wonder if Lewis will think lives matter here on 20:14 - Nov 5 with 2186 views | gtsb1966 |
| I wonder if Lewis will think lives matter here on 20:09 - Nov 5 by Barneycurley |
I think by the mere suggestion that LH is a massive hypocrite that you by default are calling him racist - its the standard defence on here. |
True. It's quite laughable isn't it. Their stress levels must go through the roof in daily life. |  | | |
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| I wonder if Lewis will think lives matter here on 20:15 - Nov 5 with 2185 views | footers |
| I wonder if Lewis will think lives matter here on 20:09 - Nov 5 by PassionNotAnger |
Eh?? I was taking the p out of the idiot having a dig at Hamilton, not at Hamilton himself who I think has been consistent, passionate and appropriate in his support of BLM. |
Fair enough, read it wrong and agree with you entirely. My apologies x
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| I wonder if Lewis will think lives matter here on 20:24 - Nov 5 with 2164 views | eireblue |
| I wonder if Lewis will think lives matter here on 20:14 - Nov 5 by gtsb1966 |
True. It's quite laughable isn't it. Their stress levels must go through the roof in daily life. |
Nothing stressful about finding how easy it is to make people run away, hide and see them not be able to respond to simple questions. | | | |
| I wonder if Lewis will think lives matter here on 20:26 - Nov 5 with 2163 views | gtsb1966 |
Now play nicely everyone. I was merely suggesting that to race in Saudi makes Lewis a bit of a hypocrite imho. I'm now off for a beer with someone not in my bubble.
I'm not really before you all go mad. | | | |
| I wonder if Lewis will think lives matter here on 20:36 - Nov 5 with 2140 views | CrayonKing |
| I wonder if Lewis will think lives matter here on 20:26 - Nov 5 by gtsb1966 |
Now play nicely everyone. I was merely suggesting that to race in Saudi makes Lewis a bit of a hypocrite imho. I'm now off for a beer with someone not in my bubble.
I'm not really before you all go mad. |
Seems like two different issues to me, so I don't see where the hypocrisy is?
Following your logic then you're a hypocrite for only calling out this (perceived) instance of hypocrisy and not all the others in the world. |  | | |
| I wonder if Lewis will think lives matter here on 20:41 - Nov 5 with 2129 views | pelles321 |
| I wonder if Lewis will think lives matter here on 20:26 - Nov 5 by gtsb1966 |
Now play nicely everyone. I was merely suggesting that to race in Saudi makes Lewis a bit of a hypocrite imho. I'm now off for a beer with someone not in my bubble.
I'm not really before you all go mad. |
I’m not a ‘usual suspect’ person who posts on this matter, but reading through this I don’t understand how you don’t see why others took objection to your original post.
The reasonable question was asked why you linked Lewis to the corporations decision to race in Saudi Arabia? Surely your criticism should be at the decision makers who made the deal? Or even all the other drivers/teams who haven’t used their position to highlight a worthwhile cause?
The message you send is if you do speak out on one subject then you need to be the spokesperson for all issues. Maybe another driver could lead on this one? [Post edited 5 Nov 2020 20:42]
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| I wonder if Lewis will think lives matter here on 21:49 - Nov 5 with 2073 views | JDB23 |
| I wonder if Lewis will think lives matter here on 20:26 - Nov 5 by gtsb1966 |
Now play nicely everyone. I was merely suggesting that to race in Saudi makes Lewis a bit of a hypocrite imho. I'm now off for a beer with someone not in my bubble.
I'm not really before you all go mad. |
Must have missed time he boycotted other races then. | | | |
| I wonder if Lewis will think lives matter here on 22:06 - Nov 5 with 2060 views | m14_blue |
| I wonder if Lewis will think lives matter here on 20:36 - Nov 5 by CrayonKing |
Seems like two different issues to me, so I don't see where the hypocrisy is?
Following your logic then you're a hypocrite for only calling out this (perceived) instance of hypocrisy and not all the others in the world. |
It’s just bizarre.
Is David Attenborough a hypocrite because he hasn’t spoken out against corruption in the Tory party?
Does Captain Tom Moore have double standards because he hasn’t raised loads of money for the persecuted Uyghur Muslims in China?
The idea that you have to be vocal about every bad thing in order to be taken seriously on one bad thing isn’t one I’ve come across before. | | | |
| I wonder if Lewis will think lives matter here on 22:10 - Nov 5 with 2056 views | jeera |
| I wonder if Lewis will think lives matter here on 22:06 - Nov 5 by m14_blue |
It’s just bizarre.
Is David Attenborough a hypocrite because he hasn’t spoken out against corruption in the Tory party?
Does Captain Tom Moore have double standards because he hasn’t raised loads of money for the persecuted Uyghur Muslims in China?
The idea that you have to be vocal about every bad thing in order to be taken seriously on one bad thing isn’t one I’ve come across before. |
I don't have an issue with the OP himself so don't want to go overboard.
But I'm not sure I understand if the feeling is that issues surrounding Saudi aren't being addressed, or that BLM has been supported. |  |
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| I wonder if Lewis will think lives matter here on 22:15 - Nov 5 with 2052 views | m14_blue |
| I wonder if Lewis will think lives matter here on 22:10 - Nov 5 by jeera |
I don't have an issue with the OP himself so don't want to go overboard.
But I'm not sure I understand if the feeling is that issues surrounding Saudi aren't being addressed, or that BLM has been supported. |
Me neither, GTSB seems decent enough to me.
There’s no doubt Hamilton* gets a hugely disproportionate amount of stick though and I really can’t understand why him supporting BLM has triggered so many people.
*FWIW I think he seems like a bit of a nob, as elite sportsmen often do. | | | |
| I wonder if Lewis will think lives matter here on 22:22 - Nov 5 with 2047 views | jeera |
| I wonder if Lewis will think lives matter here on 22:15 - Nov 5 by m14_blue |
Me neither, GTSB seems decent enough to me.
There’s no doubt Hamilton* gets a hugely disproportionate amount of stick though and I really can’t understand why him supporting BLM has triggered so many people.
*FWIW I think he seems like a bit of a nob, as elite sportsmen often do. |
But if and/or when they use their status for some good, then most of us are pretty much on board with it.
I like to see it. | |
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| I wonder if Lewis will think lives matter here on 23:42 - Nov 5 with 2018 views | CrayonKing |
| I wonder if Lewis will think lives matter here on 22:22 - Nov 5 by jeera |
But if and/or when they use their status for some good, then most of us are pretty much on board with it.
I like to see it. |
He seems to have really grown in the last few years and seems focused on using his status for good, which is commendable in a sport where it's a lot easier to keep quiet, earn your millions, and live the playboy lifestyle. | | | |
| I wonder if Lewis will think lives matter here on 00:04 - Nov 6 with 1999 views | Swansea_Blue |
| I wonder if Lewis will think lives matter here on 19:41 - Nov 5 by Barneycurley |
I must be missing something?
The O.P. IMHO is pointing out that Hamilton has obvious (as we all know) double standards when it comes to what he stands behind.
Is there anything there to do with race? Hes not mentioned it. The usual brigade after have made it that way though (predictably) |
Nothing to do with race at all. F1 hasn’t been a race for 30 years or more. Badum tish!
What an odd thread. Not sure what the point of it is, if indeed there is a point. |  |
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| I wonder if Lewis will think lives matter here on 00:07 - Nov 6 with 1997 views | Kropotkin123 |
His top at the last GP was widely understood to be taking aim at women's rights in Saudi Arabia, where a number of women are on trial for trying to end the male chaperon system.
https://images.app.goo.gl/bAaGa6zHv8bZGtxr7
He isn't a politician. It isn't his job to speak out on these issues. He shouldn't be expected to. It is also fully reasonable that as he has thrown his weight behind one issue, that starting to promote others will weaken his core message.
Like or loathe Farage and Brexit, he clearly demonstrates that sticking to one core issue is effective in bringing about change in that area. |  |
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| I wonder if Lewis will think lives matter here on 05:55 - Nov 6 with 1952 views | solomon |
I don’t knock him for his commitment to stopping racism and promoting equality, this shouldn’t even be an issue. If you want to knock him for anything stick to the tax evasion stuff ,that’s far more relevant. |  | | |
| I wonder if Lewis will think lives matter here on 06:06 - Nov 6 with 1949 views | Mercian |
| I wonder if Lewis will think lives matter here on 05:55 - Nov 6 by solomon |
I don’t knock him for his commitment to stopping racism and promoting equality, this shouldn’t even be an issue. If you want to knock him for anything stick to the tax evasion stuff ,that’s far more relevant. |
He's a tax dodger not an evader. He is doing nothing legally wrong. Morally though. |  | | |
| I wonder if Lewis will think lives matter here on 07:30 - Nov 6 with 1927 views | solomon |
| I wonder if Lewis will think lives matter here on 06:06 - Nov 6 by Mercian |
He's a tax dodger not an evader. He is doing nothing legally wrong. Morally though. |
Quite correct. Mind you we are happy to attack the large corporations for such things but not individuals, our fascination and obsession with sports stars and celebrities is a bit odd. | | | |
| I wonder if Lewis will think lives matter here on 07:41 - Nov 6 with 1918 views | NewcyBlue |
| I wonder if Lewis will think lives matter here on 19:57 - Nov 5 by footers |
Always the victim. Tell you what, write to your MP and demand the government put a block on arms exports if you're so upset about it.
But you won't. |
“Always the victim”.
Hang on there Footers, GTSB is a good man. Disagree with his post by all means, but let’s not start a slanging match.
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/326822 |  |
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