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XR and Money Rebellion to get banks to stop eco genocide 11:16 - Nov 23 with 12504 viewsmonytowbray


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XR and Money Rebellion to get banks to stop eco genocide on 17:43 - Nov 23 with 1018 viewsJ2BLUE

XR and Money Rebellion to get banks to stop eco genocide on 16:58 - Nov 23 by monytowbray

Yes I am. I don’t care. As I don’t really see my point on this planet as looking after number one. I’ve always been happy to risk things for my beliefs.

There is a list of demands on XR’s website. You can read what XR hopes to achieve there.


Fair play. Good luck.

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XR and Money Rebellion to get banks to stop eco genocide on 18:07 - Nov 23 with 993 viewsNewcyBlue

XR and Money Rebellion to get banks to stop eco genocide on 16:52 - Nov 23 by monytowbray

Already planning on it.

Surely you know better than to ask me if I’m going fight corporations on an individual level?!

People have been asked to commit to a Money Rebellion. Some people get stuck on one small part as it’s a good means to attack/ignore it.

See also; veganism.

If we have the bank’s money and don’t pay it back, it’s stopping them spending it elsewhere and is a rebellion to say we are taking from you as you won’t tow the line on core issues.
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What will your plans be when court and/or bailiffs come knocking?

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XR and Money Rebellion to get banks to stop eco genocide on 18:08 - Nov 23 with 988 viewsmonytowbray

XR and Money Rebellion to get banks to stop eco genocide on 18:07 - Nov 23 by NewcyBlue

What will your plans be when court and/or bailiffs come knocking?


Nothing.

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XR and Money Rebellion to get banks to stop eco genocide on 18:11 - Nov 23 with 978 viewsJ2BLUE

XR and Money Rebellion to get banks to stop eco genocide on 18:08 - Nov 23 by monytowbray

Nothing.


You must have some idea? What happens when they remove your computer and anything else of any value? Will you be able to work?

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XR and Money Rebellion to get banks to stop eco genocide on 18:11 - Nov 23 with 977 viewsNewcyBlue

XR and Money Rebellion to get banks to stop eco genocide on 18:08 - Nov 23 by monytowbray

Nothing.


So when they start taking your possessions to reclaim the debt, what do you think you will do about it?

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XR and Money Rebellion to get banks to stop eco genocide on 18:11 - Nov 23 by J2BLUE

You must have some idea? What happens when they remove your computer and anything else of any value? Will you be able to work?


If you are stupid or easily led enough to communicate with and humour their fear tactics that’s where they get you.

Bailiffs aren’t the state or the law, they’re a private entity that buys debt on the cheap. It’s a business matter and I have no interest in doing business with them.
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XR and Money Rebellion to get banks to stop eco genocide on 18:08 - Nov 23 by monytowbray

Nothing.


I know I'm coming across as against your arguments in this thread, but actually going through with something like that on a personal basis unless thousands, tens of thousands of people are involved, then it will only end in tears.

The idea of a threat of this kind is appropriate, but you also need significant numbers to threaten it. Banks are too big and you'll end up losing the shirt on your back if you don't have sufficient backing.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for civil disobedience etc when it comes to global warming, but I just feel this tactic isn't a wise one for activists right now.

How we go about alerting people to the probable unconscious desicions they're making is another question, though.

Edit: Jesus wept, my English is poor today! balls .
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XR and Money Rebellion to get banks to stop eco genocide on 18:15 - Nov 23 with 959 viewsJ2BLUE

XR and Money Rebellion to get banks to stop eco genocide on 18:14 - Nov 23 by monytowbray

If you are stupid or easily led enough to communicate with and humour their fear tactics that’s where they get you.

Bailiffs aren’t the state or the law, they’re a private entity that buys debt on the cheap. It’s a business matter and I have no interest in doing business with them.
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Right...and back in the real world...?

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XR and Money Rebellion to get banks to stop eco genocide on 18:17 - Nov 23 with 953 viewsmonytowbray

XR and Money Rebellion to get banks to stop eco genocide on 18:15 - Nov 23 by footers

I know I'm coming across as against your arguments in this thread, but actually going through with something like that on a personal basis unless thousands, tens of thousands of people are involved, then it will only end in tears.

The idea of a threat of this kind is appropriate, but you also need significant numbers to threaten it. Banks are too big and you'll end up losing the shirt on your back if you don't have sufficient backing.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for civil disobedience etc when it comes to global warming, but I just feel this tactic isn't a wise one for activists right now.

How we go about alerting people to the probable unconscious desicions they're making is another question, though.

Edit: Jesus wept, my English is poor today! balls .
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I don’t think me taking a grand or less will even be worth them chasing.

CCJs are pretty much useless.

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XR and Money Rebellion to get banks to stop eco genocide on 18:15 - Nov 23 by J2BLUE

Right...and back in the real world...?


That is the real world. You have rights, learn them.

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XR and Money Rebellion to get banks to stop eco genocide on 18:19 - Nov 23 with 937 viewsNewcyBlue

XR and Money Rebellion to get banks to stop eco genocide on 18:14 - Nov 23 by monytowbray

If you are stupid or easily led enough to communicate with and humour their fear tactics that’s where they get you.

Bailiffs aren’t the state or the law, they’re a private entity that buys debt on the cheap. It’s a business matter and I have no interest in doing business with them.
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By law they can take your possessions. Your computer will be gone, you won’t be able to get credit to buy another, your source of income is gone.

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XR and Money Rebellion to get banks to stop eco genocide on 18:19 - Nov 23 by NewcyBlue

By law they can take your possessions. Your computer will be gone, you won’t be able to get credit to buy another, your source of income is gone.


If you are silly enough to let them in. The chances of them forcing entry are minimal.

Also all debt has different forms depending on who it’s owed to.

I know countless people with debt they’ve never paid, myself included. BW Legal were practically beg me for money because I just laughed at their threats.

Also I’m self employed anyway so I’d expense a new laptop 🤷‍♂️
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XR and Money Rebellion to get banks to stop eco genocide on 18:17 - Nov 23 by monytowbray

I don’t think me taking a grand or less will even be worth them chasing.

CCJs are pretty much useless.


Erm, if you read earlier up the thread, I was chased for a £1.80 bus ticket, mate! After all the 'expenses', I had to pay the princely sum of six hundred quid!

I admire all your passion on this, but I think this is an extreme and dangerous action to actually go through with, despite your noble conviction on this and other matters.

The wider conversation on banks' involvement with mining and oil firms etc should be a matter of priority; and this is certainly one way of doing it for attention. But, in reality, I fear many will go down this route seriously, not thinking of the consequences.

Just trying to look out for you and others. Apologies if that seems patronising, but I do honestly care about your wellbeing and that of all other posters, regardless of politics or history.

It's a good headline-grabber, but please don't act on it if Pushkin comes to Shovekin.

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XR and Money Rebellion to get banks to stop eco genocide on 18:22 - Nov 23 by monytowbray

If you are silly enough to let them in. The chances of them forcing entry are minimal.

Also all debt has different forms depending on who it’s owed to.

I know countless people with debt they’ve never paid, myself included. BW Legal were practically beg me for money because I just laughed at their threats.

Also I’m self employed anyway so I’d expense a new laptop 🤷‍♂️
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XR and Money Rebellion to get banks to stop eco genocide on 18:29 - Nov 23 with 897 viewsmonytowbray

XR and Money Rebellion to get banks to stop eco genocide on 18:26 - Nov 23 by footers

Erm, if you read earlier up the thread, I was chased for a £1.80 bus ticket, mate! After all the 'expenses', I had to pay the princely sum of six hundred quid!

I admire all your passion on this, but I think this is an extreme and dangerous action to actually go through with, despite your noble conviction on this and other matters.

The wider conversation on banks' involvement with mining and oil firms etc should be a matter of priority; and this is certainly one way of doing it for attention. But, in reality, I fear many will go down this route seriously, not thinking of the consequences.

Just trying to look out for you and others. Apologies if that seems patronising, but I do honestly care about your wellbeing and that of all other posters, regardless of politics or history.

It's a good headline-grabber, but please don't act on it if Pushkin comes to Shovekin.


I fear you worry I am easily led, but honestly mate I’ve been doing this kind of stuff for years. I know the risks both long term and short term.

You got mugged off on that bus ticket. Who did you pay it to?

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I wish you the best of luck in this endeavour.


Cheers, keep my memory alive when they drag me to the Gulag!

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XR and Money Rebellion to get banks to stop eco genocide on 18:22 - Nov 23 by monytowbray

If you are silly enough to let them in. The chances of them forcing entry are minimal.

Also all debt has different forms depending on who it’s owed to.

I know countless people with debt they’ve never paid, myself included. BW Legal were practically beg me for money because I just laughed at their threats.

Also I’m self employed anyway so I’d expense a new laptop 🤷‍♂️
[Post edited 23 Nov 2020 18:27]


What if they have a notice from the high court saying they can take your possessions? They encourage people who refuse to comply to call the police.

I asked if you were going to take out a loan and max out a few credit cards. You're now saying a grand. Not sure this is the all guns blazing approach you seemed to be suggesting and hinting you would take?

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XR and Money Rebellion to get banks to stop eco genocide on 18:33 - Nov 23 with 882 viewsmonytowbray

XR and Money Rebellion to get banks to stop eco genocide on 18:30 - Nov 23 by J2BLUE

What if they have a notice from the high court saying they can take your possessions? They encourage people who refuse to comply to call the police.

I asked if you were going to take out a loan and max out a few credit cards. You're now saying a grand. Not sure this is the all guns blazing approach you seemed to be suggesting and hinting you would take?


I mean when did you get the idea I’m going to go beyond my own comfort zone?

First it was a stupid idea, now you’re egging me on to do more.

If you want that, come to the bank with me this week and take a grand out alongside me. That’s what collective action is.
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XR and Money Rebellion to get banks to stop eco genocide on 18:15 - Nov 23 by footers

I know I'm coming across as against your arguments in this thread, but actually going through with something like that on a personal basis unless thousands, tens of thousands of people are involved, then it will only end in tears.

The idea of a threat of this kind is appropriate, but you also need significant numbers to threaten it. Banks are too big and you'll end up losing the shirt on your back if you don't have sufficient backing.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for civil disobedience etc when it comes to global warming, but I just feel this tactic isn't a wise one for activists right now.

How we go about alerting people to the probable unconscious desicions they're making is another question, though.

Edit: Jesus wept, my English is poor today! balls .
[Post edited 23 Nov 2020 18:18]


I agree with this. I don't have the full facts as to what is proposed but if it just withholding repayment that won't affect the ability to create credit for fossil fuel companies. Banks don't lend deposits or repayments, obviously if lots of assets became distressed then that is a different matter but on the scale of a few protestors it is minuscule.
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XR and Money Rebellion to get banks to stop eco genocide on 18:37 - Nov 23 with 857 viewsJ2BLUE

XR and Money Rebellion to get banks to stop eco genocide on 18:33 - Nov 23 by monytowbray

I mean when did you get the idea I’m going to go beyond my own comfort zone?

First it was a stupid idea, now you’re egging me on to do more.

If you want that, come to the bank with me this week and take a grand out alongside me. That’s what collective action is.
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I'm not egging you on. I literally asked if you were going to max out credit cards and take out a loan. I got the impressive you were. Now it's £1000. Even that I would advise against.

I won't be doing the same but if it goes wrong and they end up taking your possessions feel free to start a go fund me and i'll contribute because I admire your balls. I think you're in for a bit of a shock if you go through with this but I genuinely admire the willingness to do it.

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XR and Money Rebellion to get banks to stop eco genocide on 18:37 - Nov 23 by J2BLUE

I'm not egging you on. I literally asked if you were going to max out credit cards and take out a loan. I got the impressive you were. Now it's £1000. Even that I would advise against.

I won't be doing the same but if it goes wrong and they end up taking your possessions feel free to start a go fund me and i'll contribute because I admire your balls. I think you're in for a bit of a shock if you go through with this but I genuinely admire the willingness to do it.


That reminds me, you were going to send me the link to your OnlyFans profile so I could sign up.

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XR and Money Rebellion to get banks to stop eco genocide on 18:39 - Nov 23 with 842 viewsmonytowbray

XR and Money Rebellion to get banks to stop eco genocide on 18:37 - Nov 23 by J2BLUE

I'm not egging you on. I literally asked if you were going to max out credit cards and take out a loan. I got the impressive you were. Now it's £1000. Even that I would advise against.

I won't be doing the same but if it goes wrong and they end up taking your possessions feel free to start a go fund me and i'll contribute because I admire your balls. I think you're in for a bit of a shock if you go through with this but I genuinely admire the willingness to do it.


I’m a firm believer every little thing helps. The micro goals feed the macro goal.

If everyone creates some unpaid debt it adds up. On our own we mean f*ck all in the scheme of things but together we can change things.

No empire was built and/or destroyed by one person alone.

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XR and Money Rebellion to get banks to stop eco genocide on 18:44 - Nov 23 with 826 viewsloftboy

I maybe being a it thick here but if you default on your mortgage and get evicted your house will be sold at auction and the banks will get their money back, you would need the entire population on board with this, you’ll be lucky to get less than 000.1%
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XR and Money Rebellion to get banks to stop eco genocide on 18:44 - Nov 23 by loftboy

I maybe being a it thick here but if you default on your mortgage and get evicted your house will be sold at auction and the banks will get their money back, you would need the entire population on board with this, you’ll be lucky to get less than 000.1%


Again, louder at the back, it’s a “Money” rebellion. Not just a “Mortgage” rebellion.

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That reminds me, you were going to send me the link to your OnlyFans profile so I could sign up.


He’s paying people to subscribe.

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