| You voted for it, you live with it 13:02 - Jan 18 with 4156 views | pointofblue |
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55706114
Getting sick and tired of the whining now. They were warned what would happen if Leave won and the sector called out for it anyway. Now they’re moaning about the result? Might make me sound unsympathetic but tough. [Post edited 18 Jan 2021 13:02]
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| You voted for it, you live with it on 13:06 - Jan 18 with 2138 views | noggin |
Scotland voted remain. |  |
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| You voted for it, you live with it on 13:06 - Jan 18 with 2138 views | footers |
I'm dumbfounded that people in the fishing industry seem unaware that a very large percentage of UK fishermen's catches are not in UK waters and that fish and shellfish tend to go off fairly quickly. How stupid do you have to be? Or do they think all the lovely European fish will migrate to Brexit Britain, or that fish will somehow be exempt from new border controls?
Maybe the people on here who were spouting off about the benefits for fishing towns could tell us where we're going wrong here. |  |
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| You voted for it, you live with it on 13:07 - Jan 18 with 2117 views | DanTheMan |
| You voted for it, you live with it on 13:06 - Jan 18 by noggin |
Scotland voted remain. |
Didn't the fishing industry campaign for Leave though? |  |
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| You voted for it, you live with it on 13:09 - Jan 18 with 2100 views | noggin |
| You voted for it, you live with it on 13:07 - Jan 18 by DanTheMan |
Didn't the fishing industry campaign for Leave though? |
I don't know but I remember interviews with Scottish fisherman who were very much in the remain camp. | |
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| You voted for it, you live with it on 13:09 - Jan 18 with 2092 views | StokieBlue |
| You voted for it, you live with it on 13:06 - Jan 18 by noggin |
Scotland voted remain. |
Yes Scotland did but the Scottish fishing industry in general didn't.
From the Times:
"Fishing communities bucked the trend north of the border by voting strongly in favour of leaving the EU, despite 62 per cent of the population of Scotland backing Remain.
It was hoped that leaving the European Union would give fishermen exclusive access to the waters off the UK, securing a bright future for the Scottish fleet, which has struggled to cope with stringent EU quotas."
An important distinction in this case.
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| You voted for it, you live with it on 13:17 - Jan 18 with 2031 views | noggin |
| You voted for it, you live with it on 13:09 - Jan 18 by StokieBlue |
Yes Scotland did but the Scottish fishing industry in general didn't.
From the Times:
"Fishing communities bucked the trend north of the border by voting strongly in favour of leaving the EU, despite 62 per cent of the population of Scotland backing Remain.
It was hoped that leaving the European Union would give fishermen exclusive access to the waters off the UK, securing a bright future for the Scottish fleet, which has struggled to cope with stringent EU quotas."
An important distinction in this case.
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Ah ok, well then yes, they deserve their current woes. | |
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| You voted for it, you live with it on 13:18 - Jan 18 with 2024 views | factual_blue |
They want compensation, but they're just being shellfish. |  |
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| You voted for it, you live with it on 13:19 - Jan 18 with 2005 views | Metal_Hacker |
| You voted for it, you live with it on 13:07 - Jan 18 by DanTheMan |
Didn't the fishing industry campaign for Leave though? |
Living in Sheffield I seem to remember watching the "local " news and most of the East Coast (Grimsby ,Hull etc ) were up for leaving
Sorry but reap what you sew and all that |  |
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| You voted for it, you live with it on 13:20 - Jan 18 with 1992 views | jeera |
| You voted for it, you live with it on 13:19 - Jan 18 by Metal_Hacker |
Living in Sheffield I seem to remember watching the "local " news and most of the East Coast (Grimsby ,Hull etc ) were up for leaving
Sorry but reap what you sew and all that |
I can't decide if that's a fishing net pun. |  |
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| You voted for it, you live with it on 13:23 - Jan 18 with 1988 views | BlueBadger |
I mean, thank god an industry that is totally dependant on getting its product to market quickly didn’t wholesale throw its weight behind something that was obviously going to cause more paperwork and delay. I mean that would have been REALLY f*cking stupid. [Post edited 18 Jan 2021 13:25]
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| You voted for it, you live with it on 13:25 - Jan 18 with 1959 views | jaykay |
it will be the farmers next. |  |
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| You voted for it, you live with it on 13:27 - Jan 18 with 1955 views | longtimefan |
| You voted for it, you live with it on 13:09 - Jan 18 by noggin |
I don't know but I remember interviews with Scottish fisherman who were very much in the remain camp. |
I remember radio interviews with Scottish fishermen who’s accents were so broad I could barely understand them. They were Leavers to a man though. | | | |
| You voted for it, you live with it on 13:27 - Jan 18 with 1955 views | factual_blue |
| You voted for it, you live with it on 13:07 - Jan 18 by DanTheMan |
Didn't the fishing industry campaign for Leave though? |
julia mummery, whose family seem to control Lowestoft-based fishing, was a brexit party MEP. | |
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| You voted for it, you live with it on 13:28 - Jan 18 with 1948 views | factual_blue |
| You voted for it, you live with it on 13:20 - Jan 18 by jeera |
I can't decide if that's a fishing net pun. |
Also, reaping and sowing aren't fishing activities. | |
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| You voted for it, you live with it on 13:29 - Jan 18 with 1950 views | footers |
| You voted for it, you live with it on 13:27 - Jan 18 by factual_blue |
julia mummery, whose family seem to control Lowestoft-based fishing, was a brexit party MEP. |
I think from a Lowestoft POV it's a question of revenge.
The greasy spoon cafe on Lowestoft docks is called, wait for it, The Europa.
Maybe it was all their floppy toast and overcooked sausages which are to blame for all this. | |
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| You voted for it, you live with it on 13:30 - Jan 18 with 1936 views | factual_blue |
| You voted for it, you live with it on 13:29 - Jan 18 by footers |
I think from a Lowestoft POV it's a question of revenge.
The greasy spoon cafe on Lowestoft docks is called, wait for it, The Europa.
Maybe it was all their floppy toast and overcooked sausages which are to blame for all this. |
Did they not have a floppy sausage? | |
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| You voted for it, you live with it on 13:32 - Jan 18 with 1929 views | footers |
| You voted for it, you live with it on 13:30 - Jan 18 by factual_blue |
Did they not have a floppy sausage? |
The night after landing the catch I'm sure my father and grandfather did.
Well, there are at least three ocassions where they didn't. But you wouldn't have the pleasure of conversing with me if they had. | |
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| You voted for it, you live with it on 13:47 - Jan 18 with 1875 views | Swansea_Blue |
| You voted for it, you live with it on 13:07 - Jan 18 by DanTheMan |
Didn't the fishing industry campaign for Leave though? |
They were quite vocal, yes. The Scottish Fishermen’s Federation (same people who wrote to Johnson a couple of days ago as they were surprised BJ's promises didn't hold true!) was fiercely pro-Brexit.
They seem to be waking up to the fact they've been played though. Which is good. The more who belatedly realise that Brexit was a con, the sooner we'll be able to rejoin (maybe). |  |
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| You voted for it, you live with it on 13:49 - Jan 18 with 1860 views | StokieBlue |
| You voted for it, you live with it on 13:47 - Jan 18 by Swansea_Blue |
They were quite vocal, yes. The Scottish Fishermen’s Federation (same people who wrote to Johnson a couple of days ago as they were surprised BJ's promises didn't hold true!) was fiercely pro-Brexit.
They seem to be waking up to the fact they've been played though. Which is good. The more who belatedly realise that Brexit was a con, the sooner we'll be able to rejoin (maybe). |
Why would the EU have us back? I would assume that rejoining would mean taking the EUR and having a clause whereby we couldn't just decide to leave again for X number of years.
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| You voted for it, you live with it on 13:50 - Jan 18 with 1850 views | MattinLondon |
| You voted for it, you live with it on 13:18 - Jan 18 by factual_blue |
They want compensation, but they're just being shellfish. |
Now that we are out of the EU, can eurosceptic fishermen still blame their woes on mussels? |  | | |
| You voted for it, you live with it on 13:53 - Jan 18 with 1818 views | Swansea_Blue |
| You voted for it, you live with it on 13:49 - Jan 18 by StokieBlue |
Why would the EU have us back? I would assume that rejoining would mean taking the EUR and having a clause whereby we couldn't just decide to leave again for X number of years.
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For the same reason that they didn't want us to go I suspect; we're all better of in many ways as part of the EU. I'm fairly sure they'd take a pragmatic view rather than hold any grudges. For sure, they'd want some assurances though! | |
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| You voted for it, you live with it on 14:05 - Jan 18 with 1760 views | BlueBadger |
Just out of interest, does the rule 'if it's in British waters, it belongs to Britain' also apply to refugees? | |
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| You voted for it, you live with it on 14:06 - Jan 18 with 1749 views | gordon |
| You voted for it, you live with it on 13:49 - Jan 18 by StokieBlue |
Why would the EU have us back? I would assume that rejoining would mean taking the EUR and having a clause whereby we couldn't just decide to leave again for X number of years.
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I don't think we'll ever rejoin the EU, but the single market / customs union have got to be a possibility.
Although definitely agree that the EU ought to just tell us to sod off unless there's clear evidence that our politics / public is no longer susceptible to populist nonsense. |  | | |
| You voted for it, you live with it on 14:07 - Jan 18 with 1749 views | gordon |
| You voted for it, you live with it on 14:05 - Jan 18 by BlueBadger |
Just out of interest, does the rule 'if it's in British waters, it belongs to Britain' also apply to refugees? |
Yes but the problem is that the new paperwork makes it very difficult to get them to market fresh. | | | |
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