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Thinking out loud.... 21:48 - Feb 13 with 6336 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

India population...1,393,409,038
India covid deaths...155,673
Uk population...67,610,000
Uk covid deaths....116,908

Is the real issue we need to address that we have a ridiculously unhealthy population fuelled on cr@p processed food? Oh and gross inequalities.

"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
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Thinking out loud.... on 12:52 - Feb 14 with 608 viewsTrequartista

Almost certainly not i would think.

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Thinking out loud.... on 13:48 - Feb 14 with 576 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Thinking out loud.... on 12:09 - Feb 14 by jeera

People with limited access to food don't tend to be fat, no.

What's your point here Anthea?


We are a very unhealthy nation Brucey and hopefully a positive to come out of this would be to address it........we won't!

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Thinking out loud.... on 13:53 - Feb 14 with 570 viewsStokieBlue

Thinking out loud.... on 13:48 - Feb 14 by BanksterDebtSlave

We are a very unhealthy nation Brucey and hopefully a positive to come out of this would be to address it........we won't!


Whilst you do have a point as a few have said the two example countries you cited both have life expectancy quite a lot less than the UK.

I just feel your take on this is a bit simplistic.

SB

SB - (not Simon Batford)

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Thinking out loud.... on 13:55 - Feb 14 with 565 viewsLeaky

Plus I think it would good to know how many people certainly in the UK actually died of Covid. The government base their figures on people dying within 28 days of a positive test. Therefore they could die of heart attacks, strokes & various other causes is it still counted as a Covid death
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Thinking out loud.... on 13:58 - Feb 14 with 555 viewsnoggin

Thinking out loud.... on 13:55 - Feb 14 by Leaky

Plus I think it would good to know how many people certainly in the UK actually died of Covid. The government base their figures on people dying within 28 days of a positive test. Therefore they could die of heart attacks, strokes & various other causes is it still counted as a Covid death


Impossible to say.

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Thinking out loud.... on 14:03 - Feb 14 with 546 viewsstantheman

Thinking out loud.... on 13:55 - Feb 14 by Leaky

Plus I think it would good to know how many people certainly in the UK actually died of Covid. The government base their figures on people dying within 28 days of a positive test. Therefore they could die of heart attacks, strokes & various other causes is it still counted as a Covid death


Excess deaths over and above those expected for times of year would be a more accurate way to measure the Covid affect. Many who have died would have died anyway, because of underlying conditions. I would expect (only my guess btw) that 1 in 5 would have tested positive for Covid anyway. Figures still would be bad though.
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Thinking out loud.... on 14:14 - Feb 14 with 533 views26_Paz

Thinking out loud.... on 14:03 - Feb 14 by stantheman

Excess deaths over and above those expected for times of year would be a more accurate way to measure the Covid affect. Many who have died would have died anyway, because of underlying conditions. I would expect (only my guess btw) that 1 in 5 would have tested positive for Covid anyway. Figures still would be bad though.


This is exactly why I would be interested to see India’s excess deaths figure to compare with the UK’s

The Paz Man

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Thinking out loud.... on 14:17 - Feb 14 with 527 viewsshady

Many South American equatorial countries are doing quite poorly
Paradoxically many hot Asian countries appear to be handling things well.

There may be something in the Vitamin D theory, or could it be genetic,
or lifelong exposure to menagerie of nasties...


Often wondered about those poor Norwegian pensioners dying from the vaccine
was that lack of sunshine?
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Thinking out loud.... on 14:21 - Feb 14 with 522 viewsnoggin

Thinking out loud.... on 14:17 - Feb 14 by shady

Many South American equatorial countries are doing quite poorly
Paradoxically many hot Asian countries appear to be handling things well.

There may be something in the Vitamin D theory, or could it be genetic,
or lifelong exposure to menagerie of nasties...


Often wondered about those poor Norwegian pensioners dying from the vaccine
was that lack of sunshine?


There is no evidence that they died from the vaccine. Almost everyone here takes Vit D supplements.

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Thinking out loud.... on 14:44 - Feb 14 with 511 viewsshady

Thinking out loud.... on 14:21 - Feb 14 by noggin

There is no evidence that they died from the vaccine. Almost everyone here takes Vit D supplements.


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Thanks for setting me straight
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Thinking out loud.... on 14:59 - Feb 14 with 498 viewsAce_High1

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Thinking out loud.... on 16:08 - Feb 14 with 472 viewsWeWereZombies

Thinking out loud.... on 12:50 - Feb 14 by Harry_Palmer

It's a rather simplistic take banksy as others have suggested, however I do think that your basic point is a fair one in terms of the general health of the nation.

Diet obviously plays a massive part in regards to health but there are many other factors to also consider in terms of an all round healthy lifestyle and I think it's fair to say as a nation we have considerable room for improvement.

Of course even the healthiest of people can still become infected by Covid-19 but I think it's fair to say that you can greatly reduce your chances of a serious outcome if you eat a healthy diet, maintain a good weight, exercise regularly etc. especially in the younger age groups.

I am seeing more and more evidence of the importance of vitamin D in protecting against serious C-19 outcomes also, I wonder if a more outdoor lifestyle ( outside of the big cities ) and closer proximity to the equator could be having some effect on India's apparent good numbers? Like you, this is somewhat me thinking out loud, I have not looked into it but it would be interesting to see if there is a correlation between being closer to the equator ( or in a sunnier climate ) and lower numbers / better outcomes.
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Panama, just ten degrees north of the equator, from the John Hopkins University correlated data:

Cases - 331,692 (44th in table)
Deaths - 5,621 (46th in table)
Cases per million - 76,133 (11th in table, UK is 23rd)
Deaths per million - 1,290 (21st in table, UK is 5th)

Inconclusive but does indicate that factors such as population density in towns and city, life expectancy and diet could have an impact.

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Thinking out loud.... on 19:28 - Feb 14 with 432 viewsHarry_Palmer

Thinking out loud.... on 16:08 - Feb 14 by WeWereZombies

Panama, just ten degrees north of the equator, from the John Hopkins University correlated data:

Cases - 331,692 (44th in table)
Deaths - 5,621 (46th in table)
Cases per million - 76,133 (11th in table, UK is 23rd)
Deaths per million - 1,290 (21st in table, UK is 5th)

Inconclusive but does indicate that factors such as population density in towns and city, life expectancy and diet could have an impact.


Higher cases per million than the UK but lower deaths. Interesting.

There are just so many variables though that it is really difficult to compare countries and to draw firm conclusions.
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