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One in six new universal credit claimants forced to skip meals 01:44 - Feb 19 with 1663 viewsSpruceMoose

This is absolutely shocking. Or it should be at least. I wonder if the poster who claimed that benefit payments are more than generous, and that all claimants should easily be able to afford to feed their children during school holidays has any thoughts.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/feb/19/new-universal-credit-claimants-f

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One in six new universal credit claimants forced to skip meals on 01:49 - Feb 19 with 1620 viewsjeera

A lot of people don't understand how the system is arranged and would genuinely be surprised to learn what it's like if they could be bothered to listen.

There will always be a number who don't want to learn because it goes against what they want to believe.

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One in six new universal credit claimants forced to skip meals on 01:58 - Feb 19 with 1607 viewschrismakin

One in six new universal credit claimants forced to skip meals on 01:49 - Feb 19 by jeera

A lot of people don't understand how the system is arranged and would genuinely be surprised to learn what it's like if they could be bothered to listen.

There will always be a number who don't want to learn because it goes against what they want to believe.


When me and my wife were both out of work we claimed UC, we were borderline ok, Thankfully I had a little bit of extra money to help get us through it, but I can imagine there are many thousands out there where UC isn't enough.

Not sure but I imagine it's a blanket figure, but it started out as a joint figure of £1950 for the pair of us.... minus Rent which we got sent straight to landlord (which can vary depending on your actual rent value), Then take away all your normal bills, council tax, gas, water, electric, petrol/public transport, food, water, tv licence, house insurance, life insurance, Phone Bills, Car Tax,

I can't see how anyone can say the benefit scheme is 'comfy'
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One in six new universal credit claimants forced to skip meals on 02:04 - Feb 19 with 1592 viewsjeera

One in six new universal credit claimants forced to skip meals on 01:58 - Feb 19 by chrismakin

When me and my wife were both out of work we claimed UC, we were borderline ok, Thankfully I had a little bit of extra money to help get us through it, but I can imagine there are many thousands out there where UC isn't enough.

Not sure but I imagine it's a blanket figure, but it started out as a joint figure of £1950 for the pair of us.... minus Rent which we got sent straight to landlord (which can vary depending on your actual rent value), Then take away all your normal bills, council tax, gas, water, electric, petrol/public transport, food, water, tv licence, house insurance, life insurance, Phone Bills, Car Tax,

I can't see how anyone can say the benefit scheme is 'comfy'
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And there is a huge difference between receiving some help on a short term basis to tide oneself over, in comparison with someone who has no choice but to rely on the same level of aid long term.

The lack of support chips away and the eventuality the result is a decline in living standards and a culmination of debt.

Ultimately health and quality of life is affected.

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One in six new universal credit claimants forced to skip meals on 02:04 - Feb 19 with 1595 viewsmonytowbray

Haven’t they just tried getting a job. I have a job so I don’t understand how other people don’t have a job.

Or something.

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One in six new universal credit claimants forced to skip meals on 02:07 - Feb 19 with 1575 viewschrismakin

One in six new universal credit claimants forced to skip meals on 02:04 - Feb 19 by jeera

And there is a huge difference between receiving some help on a short term basis to tide oneself over, in comparison with someone who has no choice but to rely on the same level of aid long term.

The lack of support chips away and the eventuality the result is a decline in living standards and a culmination of debt.

Ultimately health and quality of life is affected.


Oh Absolutely, as I say I did have the added benifit of having a small extra amount before we lost our jobs, I can't imagine how we'd have gone long term though especially when that ran out.

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One in six new universal credit claimants forced to skip meals on 02:09 - Feb 19 with 1564 viewsjeera

One in six new universal credit claimants forced to skip meals on 02:07 - Feb 19 by chrismakin

Oh Absolutely, as I say I did have the added benifit of having a small extra amount before we lost our jobs, I can't imagine how we'd have gone long term though especially when that ran out.


I wasn't disagreeing with your point.

More adding to it.

Yes, you are correct, absolutely.

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One in six new universal credit claimants forced to skip meals on 02:09 - Feb 19 with 1571 viewschrismakin

One in six new universal credit claimants forced to skip meals on 02:04 - Feb 19 by monytowbray

Haven’t they just tried getting a job. I have a job so I don’t understand how other people don’t have a job.

Or something.


You know one thing I was shocked to see when I was looking, was how the market has changed in regards to pay available

I remember years ago, people frowned if you wanted to be a Bin man, but it paid bloody well, my friend did it and was getting nearly £13 an hour, Now it's close to Minimum Wage

Here at the hospice, whether it's Cleaning, Hosting, kitchen, it's all minimum wage
Cleaners... minimum wage

Will add, im a night worker, christ doing night work use to be the one thing you did to earn extra, it's no where near what it used to pay out.
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One in six new universal credit claimants forced to skip meals on 02:24 - Feb 19 with 1551 viewsmonytowbray

One in six new universal credit claimants forced to skip meals on 02:09 - Feb 19 by chrismakin

You know one thing I was shocked to see when I was looking, was how the market has changed in regards to pay available

I remember years ago, people frowned if you wanted to be a Bin man, but it paid bloody well, my friend did it and was getting nearly £13 an hour, Now it's close to Minimum Wage

Here at the hospice, whether it's Cleaning, Hosting, kitchen, it's all minimum wage
Cleaners... minimum wage

Will add, im a night worker, christ doing night work use to be the one thing you did to earn extra, it's no where near what it used to pay out.
[Post edited 19 Feb 2021 2:10]


I did 6 months on and off JSA around 12-13 years ago and it was hard enough then. UC is a pathetic amount of money and all it takes is one rogue £10 cost out of nowhere to ruin an entire month’s budget drastically.

I don’t want much from the government but the bare minimum of knowing if EVERYTHING in my life went t1ts up tomorrow I could still get by comfortably with a roof over my head and decent food on my table would be nice. It’s a luxury many of the boomer generation take for granted as in my adult life stable employment, property ownership, savings and disposable incomes are few and far between.

Edit - Start of 2010 I did 2 weeks of 8pm-5am shifts at Domino’s as a driver for minimum wage, despite every driver saying they’d only do after 1am for time and a half. They just ignored us. I told the manager to put me back on day/eve shifts within 2 weeks. No daylight, no socialising beyond people I saw at work, got nothing done in my day-to-day chores. It’s a mental health hazard and should come with such hazard pay.

Disaster capitalism, yay.
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One in six new universal credit claimants forced to skip meals on 02:46 - Feb 19 with 1534 viewschrismakin

One in six new universal credit claimants forced to skip meals on 02:24 - Feb 19 by monytowbray

I did 6 months on and off JSA around 12-13 years ago and it was hard enough then. UC is a pathetic amount of money and all it takes is one rogue £10 cost out of nowhere to ruin an entire month’s budget drastically.

I don’t want much from the government but the bare minimum of knowing if EVERYTHING in my life went t1ts up tomorrow I could still get by comfortably with a roof over my head and decent food on my table would be nice. It’s a luxury many of the boomer generation take for granted as in my adult life stable employment, property ownership, savings and disposable incomes are few and far between.

Edit - Start of 2010 I did 2 weeks of 8pm-5am shifts at Domino’s as a driver for minimum wage, despite every driver saying they’d only do after 1am for time and a half. They just ignored us. I told the manager to put me back on day/eve shifts within 2 weeks. No daylight, no socialising beyond people I saw at work, got nothing done in my day-to-day chores. It’s a mental health hazard and should come with such hazard pay.

Disaster capitalism, yay.
[Post edited 19 Feb 2021 3:02]


That's the biggest issue which you point out, the not knowing how you'll survive if you get to that point of needing help.

I've done various jobs just to get by over the years, one of which was a recruitment consultant, some of the things I learnt there made me realise how tough if really is out there to find work, the amount of 'Ghost' jobs we would add to indeed/reed etc just to bump up our' registered with us' numbers just to make ourselves look better to clients to me showed you don't even know if the jobs you apply for even exists,

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One in six new universal credit claimants forced to skip meals on 03:09 - Feb 19 with 1524 viewsmonytowbray

One in six new universal credit claimants forced to skip meals on 02:46 - Feb 19 by chrismakin

That's the biggest issue which you point out, the not knowing how you'll survive if you get to that point of needing help.

I've done various jobs just to get by over the years, one of which was a recruitment consultant, some of the things I learnt there made me realise how tough if really is out there to find work, the amount of 'Ghost' jobs we would add to indeed/reed etc just to bump up our' registered with us' numbers just to make ourselves look better to clients to me showed you don't even know if the jobs you apply for even exists,


A lot of people are lying to make money and the sooner we accept wealth is not a gauge of intelligence, hard work, ability or a divine right to be above others the better.

Some of the biggest morons and utter b@stards I’ve met through life have been successful by current social standards, some of the smartest people I know work as little as they can and are resourceful/skilful when it comes to what they need. I can also tell you out of those two categories which ones aren’t lying to themselves about being fulfilled in life.
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One in six new universal credit claimants forced to skip meals on 03:26 - Feb 19 with 1508 viewschrismakin

One in six new universal credit claimants forced to skip meals on 03:09 - Feb 19 by monytowbray

A lot of people are lying to make money and the sooner we accept wealth is not a gauge of intelligence, hard work, ability or a divine right to be above others the better.

Some of the biggest morons and utter b@stards I’ve met through life have been successful by current social standards, some of the smartest people I know work as little as they can and are resourceful/skilful when it comes to what they need. I can also tell you out of those two categories which ones aren’t lying to themselves about being fulfilled in life.
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It's quite strange how life goes sometimes

I've been through the rough times and now im at a stage where, as long as I feel secure, that's enough for me, I do my bit to help others, I enjoy spending time with the family etc, I can't imagine spending 70+ hours a week again in sales to ensure I had a 'luxury life' I became someone I didn't like.

If there's every anyone on the forum who needs a bit of help ( Not financial advice as I'm not a financial advisor) but i've been through various stages of what I'd call life changing problems, Redunancies. TUPE, UC problems etc, im just a DM away.

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One in six new universal credit claimants forced to skip meals on 07:05 - Feb 19 with 1422 views26_Paz

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One in six new universal credit claimants forced to skip meals on 08:23 - Feb 19 with 1361 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

One in six new universal credit claimants forced to skip meals on 02:09 - Feb 19 by chrismakin

You know one thing I was shocked to see when I was looking, was how the market has changed in regards to pay available

I remember years ago, people frowned if you wanted to be a Bin man, but it paid bloody well, my friend did it and was getting nearly £13 an hour, Now it's close to Minimum Wage

Here at the hospice, whether it's Cleaning, Hosting, kitchen, it's all minimum wage
Cleaners... minimum wage

Will add, im a night worker, christ doing night work use to be the one thing you did to earn extra, it's no where near what it used to pay out.
[Post edited 19 Feb 2021 2:10]


From the link...
"A series of in-depth interviews found many people claiming universal credit or having to consider low-paid work for the first time were surprised by the dramatic overnight cut to their incomes: “I didn’t even know people worked for f#cking £9.30,” one new claimant told researchers. “I didn’t know what £9.30 was.”

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One in six new universal credit claimants forced to skip meals on 08:35 - Feb 19 with 1332 viewsbluelagos

One in six new universal credit claimants forced to skip meals on 03:09 - Feb 19 by monytowbray

A lot of people are lying to make money and the sooner we accept wealth is not a gauge of intelligence, hard work, ability or a divine right to be above others the better.

Some of the biggest morons and utter b@stards I’ve met through life have been successful by current social standards, some of the smartest people I know work as little as they can and are resourceful/skilful when it comes to what they need. I can also tell you out of those two categories which ones aren’t lying to themselves about being fulfilled in life.
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"I can also tell you out of those two categories which ones aren’t lying to themselves about being fulfilled in life. "

You talk an awful lot of sense at times Callis.

People desperate for status and wealth - some I've worked with really are the most hollow of individuals.

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One in six new universal credit claimants forced to skip meals on 08:48 - Feb 19 with 1301 viewsgiant_stow

On one particular drive I do a bit, I seem to go past lots of food banks. They weren't there before covid but you can spot the easily by the queues and home made signs.

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One in six new universal credit claimants forced to skip meals on 08:23 - Feb 19 by BanksterDebtSlave

From the link...
"A series of in-depth interviews found many people claiming universal credit or having to consider low-paid work for the first time were surprised by the dramatic overnight cut to their incomes: “I didn’t even know people worked for f#cking £9.30,” one new claimant told researchers. “I didn’t know what £9.30 was.”


From the moment of its inception in the bowels of the laughingly-named Centre For Social Justice, Universal Credit has never been intended to provide social justice. Even the unwritten aim of saving the taxpayer money has failed hopelessly: it's cost billions to implement. Add to that a succession of dramatically hopeless Secretaries of State and Ministers of State at DWP and it's no wonder. The DWP UC hall of shame features such intellectually competent and organisationally talented folk as iain duncan smith, esther mcvey, amber rudd, therese coffey, failin' grayling, priti patel....

One of latest proposals from the Centre For Social Justice, incidentally, is raising the state pension age.

To seventy-five.

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One in six new universal credit claimants forced to skip meals on 09:04 - Feb 19 with 1266 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

One in six new universal credit claimants forced to skip meals on 08:52 - Feb 19 by factual_blue

From the moment of its inception in the bowels of the laughingly-named Centre For Social Justice, Universal Credit has never been intended to provide social justice. Even the unwritten aim of saving the taxpayer money has failed hopelessly: it's cost billions to implement. Add to that a succession of dramatically hopeless Secretaries of State and Ministers of State at DWP and it's no wonder. The DWP UC hall of shame features such intellectually competent and organisationally talented folk as iain duncan smith, esther mcvey, amber rudd, therese coffey, failin' grayling, priti patel....

One of latest proposals from the Centre For Social Justice, incidentally, is raising the state pension age.

To seventy-five.



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One in six new universal credit claimants forced to skip meals on 01:58 - Feb 19 by chrismakin

When me and my wife were both out of work we claimed UC, we were borderline ok, Thankfully I had a little bit of extra money to help get us through it, but I can imagine there are many thousands out there where UC isn't enough.

Not sure but I imagine it's a blanket figure, but it started out as a joint figure of £1950 for the pair of us.... minus Rent which we got sent straight to landlord (which can vary depending on your actual rent value), Then take away all your normal bills, council tax, gas, water, electric, petrol/public transport, food, water, tv licence, house insurance, life insurance, Phone Bills, Car Tax,

I can't see how anyone can say the benefit scheme is 'comfy'
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