| ‘The air will be cleared for the better next week’ 20:36 - Feb 21 with 21943 views | SitfcB |
Apologies if posted already, probably have been? |  |
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| ‘The air will be cleared for the better next week’ on 08:07 - Feb 22 with 5018 views | blueconscience |
| ‘The air will be cleared for the better next week’ on 08:02 - Feb 22 by hype313 |
That's an awful take. |
In your opinion  |  |
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| ‘The air will be cleared for the better next week’ on 08:10 - Feb 22 with 4996 views | DanTheMan |
| ‘The air will be cleared for the better next week’ on 08:06 - Feb 22 by footers |
Skuse is the real problem.
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I can't believe how many points we've dropped this season because of him. |  |
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| ‘The air will be cleared for the better next week’ on 09:11 - Feb 22 with 4852 views | SitfcB |
| ‘The air will be cleared for the better next week’ on 22:57 - Feb 21 by Illinoisblue |
Did Beales ever do his thread? |
May as well have been by Ian Beale. | |
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| ‘The air will be cleared for the better next week’ on 09:13 - Feb 22 with 4833 views | jeera |
| ‘The air will be cleared for the better next week’ on 08:01 - Feb 22 by blueconscience |
As I have said for years. You know My view is that it wont change regardless who is manager within Evans in charge. But Skuse has played (literally) a big part of the clubs demise. [Post edited 22 Feb 2021 8:02]
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What? |  |
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| ‘The air will be cleared for the better next week’ on 11:35 - Feb 22 with 4693 views | blueconscience |
| ‘The air will be cleared for the better next week’ on 09:13 - Feb 22 by jeera |
What? |
The owner is the main cause of our demise. Since his take over, all managers he has appointed have either failed miserably or performed very averagely.
The idea of appointing a player who has been with the club whilst playing the dross negative football for years doesn’t appeal to me personally. | |
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| ‘The air will be cleared for the better next week’ on 11:42 - Feb 22 with 4647 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| ‘The air will be cleared for the better next week’ on 08:01 - Feb 22 by blueconscience |
As I have said for years. You know My view is that it wont change regardless who is manager within Evans in charge. But Skuse has played (literally) a big part of the clubs demise. [Post edited 22 Feb 2021 8:02]
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You must really hate the likes of Downes and Woolf then seeing as we’ve basically been nothing bud dreadful since they’ve been a part of the team, as opposed to Skuse who at least was also playing when we had what little success we’ve had in the Evans era (and isn’t playing now either) |  |
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| ‘The air will be cleared for the better next week’ on 11:44 - Feb 22 with 4639 views | blueconscience |
| ‘The air will be cleared for the better next week’ on 11:42 - Feb 22 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
You must really hate the likes of Downes and Woolf then seeing as we’ve basically been nothing bud dreadful since they’ve been a part of the team, as opposed to Skuse who at least was also playing when we had what little success we’ve had in the Evans era (and isn’t playing now either) |
Are people also suggesting Downes or Wolf to be the manager? | |
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| ‘The air will be cleared for the better next week’ on 11:46 - Feb 22 with 4624 views | footers |
| ‘The air will be cleared for the better next week’ on 11:44 - Feb 22 by blueconscience |
Are people also suggesting Downes or Wolf to be the manager? |
Who's suggested Skuse as manager? I haven't seen it. |  |
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| ‘The air will be cleared for the better next week’ on 11:48 - Feb 22 with 4596 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| ‘The air will be cleared for the better next week’ on 11:44 - Feb 22 by blueconscience |
Are people also suggesting Downes or Wolf to be the manager? |
Hardly anyone is seriously suggesting Skuse as manager, however I was responding solely to the the “ But Skuse has played (literally) a big part of the clubs demise.” part of your post, which is just nonsense | |
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| ‘The air will be cleared for the better next week’ on 11:54 - Feb 22 with 4564 views | blueconscience |
| ‘The air will be cleared for the better next week’ on 11:46 - Feb 22 by footers |
Who's suggested Skuse as manager? I haven't seen it. |
An earlier post in this thread which I initially replied to  | |
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| ‘The air will be cleared for the better next week’ on 12:42 - Feb 22 with 4467 views | hype313 |
| ‘The air will be cleared for the better next week’ on 08:07 - Feb 22 by blueconscience |
In your opinion |
And others |  |
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| ‘The air will be cleared for the better next week’ on 13:14 - Feb 22 with 4375 views | jeera |
| ‘The air will be cleared for the better next week’ on 11:35 - Feb 22 by blueconscience |
The owner is the main cause of our demise. Since his take over, all managers he has appointed have either failed miserably or performed very averagely.
The idea of appointing a player who has been with the club whilst playing the dross negative football for years doesn’t appeal to me personally. |
I think the problem was this bit, but you know that!
"But Skuse has played (literally) a big part of the clubs demise." | |
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| ‘The air will be cleared for the better next week’ on 13:19 - Feb 22 with 4347 views | blueconscience |
| ‘The air will be cleared for the better next week’ on 13:14 - Feb 22 by jeera |
I think the problem was this bit, but you know that!
"But Skuse has played (literally) a big part of the clubs demise." |
So he wasn’t in the squad in the relegation season, or any of the underwhelming seasons running up to the inevitable relegation? | |
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| ‘The air will be cleared for the better next week’ on 13:21 - Feb 22 with 4330 views | FoghornGleghorn |
| ‘The air will be cleared for the better next week’ on 13:19 - Feb 22 by blueconscience |
So he wasn’t in the squad in the relegation season, or any of the underwhelming seasons running up to the inevitable relegation? |
Congratulations, you've learned the definition of "correlation". Have yourself a biscuit, then we'll start on "causation". |  | | |
| ‘The air will be cleared for the better next week’ on 13:22 - Feb 22 with 4322 views | SpruceMoose |
| ‘The air will be cleared for the better next week’ on 13:19 - Feb 22 by blueconscience |
So he wasn’t in the squad in the relegation season, or any of the underwhelming seasons running up to the inevitable relegation? |
Nothing to see here people, just a little fishing for upvotes from Mach Should have thrown in a little something about cHamBErs though. |  |
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| ‘The air will be cleared for the better next week’ on 13:24 - Feb 22 with 4302 views | jeera |
| ‘The air will be cleared for the better next week’ on 13:19 - Feb 22 by blueconscience |
So he wasn’t in the squad in the relegation season, or any of the underwhelming seasons running up to the inevitable relegation? |
"played (literally) a big part of the clubs demise"
"(literally) a big part."
"big part." | |
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| ‘The air will be cleared for the better next week’ on 13:30 - Feb 22 with 4259 views | dirtyboy |
| ‘The air will be cleared for the better next week’ on 11:35 - Feb 22 by blueconscience |
The owner is the main cause of our demise. Since his take over, all managers he has appointed have either failed miserably or performed very averagely.
The idea of appointing a player who has been with the club whilst playing the dross negative football for years doesn’t appeal to me personally. |
To suggest maybe Skuse would follow on in the same guise as those he's worked under is disengenuious.
He's had a manager, wanted to play football (that's his job) and done as told, as any decent employee would.
Moving into the hot seat gives any aspiring manager/coach the opportunity to change what they think is wrong (and keep what is right). Whether that ultimately works depends on many things, but I don't think any player at our club who moves into management should be tarred with "part of the ITFC demise". Hugely shortsighted. |  | | |
| ‘The air will be cleared for the better next week’ on 13:42 - Feb 22 with 4194 views | jayessess |
| ‘The air will be cleared for the better next week’ on 13:30 - Feb 22 by dirtyboy |
To suggest maybe Skuse would follow on in the same guise as those he's worked under is disengenuious.
He's had a manager, wanted to play football (that's his job) and done as told, as any decent employee would.
Moving into the hot seat gives any aspiring manager/coach the opportunity to change what they think is wrong (and keep what is right). Whether that ultimately works depends on many things, but I don't think any player at our club who moves into management should be tarred with "part of the ITFC demise". Hugely shortsighted. |
I don't particularly hold Skuse, Chambers or any other player as being significantly responsible for our recent decline, but... I've got to admit I find it confusing when people seem so keen for them to continue being involved in the club.
Like, why? I don't get it. |  |
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| ‘The air will be cleared for the better next week’ on 13:52 - Feb 22 with 4144 views | blueconscience |
| ‘The air will be cleared for the better next week’ on 13:22 - Feb 22 by SpruceMoose |
Nothing to see here people, just a little fishing for upvotes from Mach Should have thrown in a little something about cHamBErs though. |
Don’t worry young Sprucey boy. I am not trying to take the man you fancy. [Post edited 22 Feb 2021 13:53]
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| ‘The air will be cleared for the better next week’ on 13:53 - Feb 22 with 4139 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| ‘The air will be cleared for the better next week’ on 13:19 - Feb 22 by blueconscience |
So he wasn’t in the squad in the relegation season, or any of the underwhelming seasons running up to the inevitable relegation? |
2016/17 aside, which was obviously a poor season albeit heavily impacted by selling and not replacing Murphy, the other 4 seasons Skuse had been here had seen top half finished, 3 of which were an improvement on the previous year (and the one that wasn’t being a massive 1 place drop). So how was he contributing to underwhelming seasons leading to inevitable relegation exactly?
I would suggest there was a much more obvious thing which happened sometime around the Summer of 2018, which led to our relegation, personally | |
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| ‘The air will be cleared for the better next week’ on 13:54 - Feb 22 with 4128 views | blueconscience |
| ‘The air will be cleared for the better next week’ on 13:53 - Feb 22 by FoghornGleghorn |
Yeah, it's not. |
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