| Nsiala not taking a knee 01:57 - Feb 28 with 9847 views | BonchosBicycle |
Sorry if this has been talked about elsewhere or is common knowledge, but does anyone know why Toto hasn't taken a knee the last couple of games? I know he was doing it earlier in the season. |  | | |  |
| Nsiala not taking a knee on 20:07 - Feb 28 with 2023 views | 26_Paz |
| Nsiala not taking a knee on 20:04 - Feb 28 by Vic |
Paz, I’m not defending you. You do come across as pretty insensitive quite often, and I can see why some would call it abusive. You don’t help yourself.
What I am saying is that is that just because someone doesn’t like you they cannot label whatever you say as offensive as Herbie does, 2x now in this thread.
That’s all. I’m out of this thread! |
I know you’re not defending me. |  |
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| Nsiala not taking a knee on 20:12 - Feb 28 with 2024 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Nsiala not taking a knee on 20:04 - Feb 28 by Vic |
Paz, I’m not defending you. You do come across as pretty insensitive quite often, and I can see why some would call it abusive. You don’t help yourself.
What I am saying is that is that just because someone doesn’t like you they cannot label whatever you say as offensive as Herbie does, 2x now in this thread.
That’s all. I’m out of this thread! |
They’re all behaving like a gaggle of fannys. |  |
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| Nsiala not taking a knee on 20:13 - Feb 28 with 2008 views | Ryorry |
| Nsiala not taking a knee on 19:42 - Feb 28 by 26_Paz |
Some people on here are so concerned with finding a stick to beat me with, any stick, that they don’t realise how ridiculous they sound. |
Well, rather than use it as "a stick to beat you with" then, perhaps you could explain to me why you downvoted Spruce's comment "The UK really needs to invest more in education".
Because I can't think why that statement would incur a downvote from anyone, unless you have stupidly fat fingers like me, who did it accidentally when I went to look at the voting figures now, having upvoted it earlier! (sorry Spruce!)
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| Nsiala not taking a knee on 20:16 - Feb 28 with 1994 views | 26_Paz |
| Nsiala not taking a knee on 20:13 - Feb 28 by Ryorry |
Well, rather than use it as "a stick to beat you with" then, perhaps you could explain to me why you downvoted Spruce's comment "The UK really needs to invest more in education".
Because I can't think why that statement would incur a downvote from anyone, unless you have stupidly fat fingers like me, who did it accidentally when I went to look at the voting figures now, having upvoted it earlier! (sorry Spruce!)
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Because he was, quite obviously, calling another poster stupid. I thought this was unnecessarily abrasive. | |
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| Nsiala not taking a knee on 20:22 - Feb 28 with 1983 views | Ryorry |
| Nsiala not taking a knee on 20:16 - Feb 28 by 26_Paz |
Because he was, quite obviously, calling another poster stupid. I thought this was unnecessarily abrasive. |
Err, no, he didn't - there's a big difference between saying people should be better educated (what he said), and that they're "stupid" (how you interpreted what he said). | |
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| Nsiala not taking a knee on 20:28 - Feb 28 with 1976 views | Ryorry |
| Nsiala not taking a knee on 20:22 - Feb 28 by Ryorry |
Err, no, he didn't - there's a big difference between saying people should be better educated (what he said), and that they're "stupid" (how you interpreted what he said). |
Downvoting a fact just gives people another stick to beat you with Paz. As Vic said, you really don't help yourself. | |
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| Nsiala not taking a knee on 20:31 - Feb 28 with 1971 views | 26_Paz |
| Nsiala not taking a knee on 20:28 - Feb 28 by Ryorry |
Downvoting a fact just gives people another stick to beat you with Paz. As Vic said, you really don't help yourself. |
It’s not a fact though. He was quite clearly talking down to someone and implying they are poorly educated. It was rude. | |
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| Nsiala not taking a knee on 20:31 - Feb 28 with 1984 views | jeera |
| Nsiala not taking a knee on 20:12 - Feb 28 by Lord_Lucan |
They’re all behaving like a gaggle of fannys. |
Have a down-vote for not taking sides! |  |
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| Nsiala not taking a knee on 20:32 - Feb 28 with 1981 views | jeera |
| Nsiala not taking a knee on 20:04 - Feb 28 by bluejacko |
Now that IS abuse😂 |
Unrepentant at that. | |
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| Nsiala not taking a knee on 20:33 - Feb 28 with 1976 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Nsiala not taking a knee on 20:04 - Feb 28 by Vic |
Paz, I’m not defending you. You do come across as pretty insensitive quite often, and I can see why some would call it abusive. You don’t help yourself.
What I am saying is that is that just because someone doesn’t like you they cannot label whatever you say as offensive as Herbie does, 2x now in this thread.
That’s all. I’m out of this thread! |
Fair point, even if the history is long and deep. Mind you, I’m not sure how much benefit of the doubt one individual can be given. Don’t know and I’m keeping out of it!
Everyone seems very tetchy these days. We need a summer of love or healing. I don’t know how they managed it in the 60s (drugs maybe), but something like that would sort us out. |  |
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| Nsiala not taking a knee on 20:41 - Feb 28 with 1958 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Nsiala not taking a knee on 15:20 - Feb 28 by BluedanW |
I'm not sure what they expected the knee to do,?
It raised the issues of racism and many people have now found their voice to speak out about racism.
However players are still being racially abused on twitter etc.
But this is generally by the mindless minority.
Did they really think taking the knee would stop Internet trolls with fake accounts harassing players? What worries me more is the people that have been slating Martial and Rashford must actually be Manchester United fans as they seem to have problems with them after poor results and performances. I cant see how anybody can actually slate players because of the colour of their skin.
My issue is with any players poor ability to play football whatever race they are. [Post edited 28 Feb 2021 15:21]
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Not been on since you posted this. But I guess they hoped that by raising the issue social media platforms would actually deal with these "trolls"/racists and that the authorities generally would take a stronger stance when they are identified.
Just because you call them the "mindless minority" why should black people have to either put up with it or withdraw entirely from platforms that the rest of us don't even have to think twice about engaging on?
"Did they really think taking the knee would stop Internet trolls with fake accounts harassing players?" Perhaps they did! As I have already asked, what do you and those who oppose the mild gesture suggest they do instead? It is up to us to stand with those affected rather than bury our heads in the sand and say something akin to "it is unfortunate that some ignorant racists abuse you but that's life for those of you with black skin. We empathise but hard luck now be quiet and get on with it."
I am angry that social media and the Government are not doing more. It is clearly going to take more than a harmless gesture before football matches to motivate them. Again I ask, "what do you suggest?" |  |
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| Nsiala not taking a knee on 20:56 - Feb 28 with 1939 views | BluedanW |
| Nsiala not taking a knee on 20:41 - Feb 28 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Not been on since you posted this. But I guess they hoped that by raising the issue social media platforms would actually deal with these "trolls"/racists and that the authorities generally would take a stronger stance when they are identified.
Just because you call them the "mindless minority" why should black people have to either put up with it or withdraw entirely from platforms that the rest of us don't even have to think twice about engaging on?
"Did they really think taking the knee would stop Internet trolls with fake accounts harassing players?" Perhaps they did! As I have already asked, what do you and those who oppose the mild gesture suggest they do instead? It is up to us to stand with those affected rather than bury our heads in the sand and say something akin to "it is unfortunate that some ignorant racists abuse you but that's life for those of you with black skin. We empathise but hard luck now be quiet and get on with it."
I am angry that social media and the Government are not doing more. It is clearly going to take more than a harmless gesture before football matches to motivate them. Again I ask, "what do you suggest?" |
I must admit I don't know what they can do?
The government are powerless, wasnt one of them afound out to be a young Irish lad not even in our Country. Even the platform providers can do little, as soon as they are banned from a site they will just spring up again under a different user name.
Sadly this is the problem with social media. |  | | |
| Nsiala not taking a knee on 20:58 - Feb 28 with 1932 views | eireblue |
| Nsiala not taking a knee on 19:57 - Feb 28 by 26_Paz |
I’m sorry, sir, but I am not going to be apologising to you or anyone else for using the word ‘meltdown’. Good day. |
Well, that says more about you.
The content and reason was explained clearly.
It was abuse. And you continued the abuse. |  | | |
| Nsiala not taking a knee (n/t) on 21:00 - Feb 28 with 1930 views | eireblue |
| Nsiala not taking a knee on 20:04 - Feb 28 by 26_Paz |
For those interested this is what actual abuse looks like. |
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| Nsiala not taking a knee on 21:00 - Feb 28 with 1929 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Nsiala not taking a knee on 20:56 - Feb 28 by BluedanW |
I must admit I don't know what they can do?
The government are powerless, wasnt one of them afound out to be a young Irish lad not even in our Country. Even the platform providers can do little, as soon as they are banned from a site they will just spring up again under a different user name.
Sadly this is the problem with social media. |
Social media could censor accounts far quicker than they do. They could pass details on to police and make it clearer the stances they will take. I would imagine the anti-racism laws in Ireland would be similar to here.
Ultimately everything that can be done to make life more difficult for these people to hide behind their internet persona the better. | |
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| Nsiala not taking a knee on 21:06 - Feb 28 with 1923 views | Manchesterblue |
| Nsiala not taking a knee on 02:13 - Feb 28 by Adam98 |
Because he doesn't support the thuggish organisation. It's his choice. Good on him. |
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| Nsiala not taking a knee on 21:19 - Feb 28 with 1902 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Nsiala not taking a knee on 02:13 - Feb 28 by Adam98 |
Because he doesn't support the thuggish organisation. It's his choice. Good on him. |
Please do provide a quote from Nsiala to support your entirely false allegation.
The black players who have stopped doing this are doing so because it has changed nothing.
What do you suppose they do instead or do you support racism? | |
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| Nsiala not taking a knee on 21:23 - Feb 28 with 1899 views | jeera |
| Nsiala not taking a knee on 21:19 - Feb 28 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Please do provide a quote from Nsiala to support your entirely false allegation.
The black players who have stopped doing this are doing so because it has changed nothing.
What do you suppose they do instead or do you support racism? |
He can't.
He's just another piece of trash that passed through and got banned. | |
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| Nsiala not taking a knee on 21:49 - Feb 28 with 1882 views | Manchesterblue |
| Nsiala not taking a knee on 21:06 - Feb 28 by Manchesterblue |
All opinions matter |
Downvoted.... Genius | |
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| Nsiala not taking a knee on 21:54 - Feb 28 with 1877 views | jeera |
| Nsiala not taking a knee on 21:49 - Feb 28 by Manchesterblue |
Downvoted.... Genius |
Everyone is already aware of your ignorant nonsense, you don't need to keep proving it at every opportunity.
Lambert has gone btw, if you're interested. | |
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