| Nsiala not taking a knee 01:57 - Feb 28 with 8465 views | BonchosBicycle |
Sorry if this has been talked about elsewhere or is common knowledge, but does anyone know why Toto hasn't taken a knee the last couple of games? I know he was doing it earlier in the season. |  | | |  |
| Nsiala not taking a knee on 13:12 - Feb 28 with 1526 views | wkj |
| Nsiala not taking a knee on 13:09 - Feb 28 by SpruceMoose |
And you wonder why you're loathed by 99% of the forum. |
Not loathed by me, but will soon be the subject of legal action as a result of an injury compensation claim. I have eye rolled so often my eyeballs are locked into a looking up position. |  |
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| Nsiala not taking a knee on 13:16 - Feb 28 with 1506 views | 26_Paz |
| Nsiala not taking a knee on 13:09 - Feb 28 by SpruceMoose |
And you wonder why you're loathed by 99% of the forum. |
I think it’s just your clique in fairness |  |
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| Nsiala not taking a knee on 13:19 - Feb 28 with 1493 views | SpruceMoose |
| Nsiala not taking a knee on 13:16 - Feb 28 by 26_Paz |
I think it’s just your clique in fairness |
Could you name names so I can formalise a membership list? |  |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| Nsiala not taking a knee on 13:32 - Feb 28 with 1466 views | Seablu |
| Nsiala not taking a knee on 12:33 - Feb 28 by DropCliffsNotBombs |
Yeah but look at the names on the uppie list. Doesn't scream 'high-fliers'... |
Absolutely.
It’s a bingo card of consistently inadequate individuals.
Good to have them all in one place for future reference though. |  | | |
| Nsiala not taking a knee on 13:50 - Feb 28 with 1432 views | bluejacko |
| Nsiala not taking a knee on 13:08 - Feb 28 by Superblue95 |
Not sure his posts warrant the leeway in grammar |
😂says you the font of all knowledge ! |  | | |
| Nsiala not taking a knee on 13:51 - Feb 28 with 1425 views | Wallingford_Boy |
| Nsiala not taking a knee on 08:37 - Feb 28 by Herbivore |
Couple of people have actually given this an uppie. The absolute state of it. I've wiped better from my arsehole after a hangover poo. |
And yet you down voted my “stand tall and proud” reference?!
Either you misunderstood or.... |  |
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| Nsiala not taking a knee on 14:37 - Feb 28 with 1394 views | Edmundo |
| Nsiala not taking a knee on 09:07 - Feb 28 by Wallingford_Boy |
Same reason Zaha and other black players aren’t now. It’s not achieving anything and if anything belittles black people. Stand tall be proud |
It's gone from being a gesture of solidarity to virtue signaling. |  |
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| Nsiala not taking a knee on 14:47 - Feb 28 with 1374 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Nsiala not taking a knee on 14:37 - Feb 28 by Edmundo |
It's gone from being a gesture of solidarity to virtue signaling. |
If you listen to what the players who have spoken about stopping it have said, you will realise it is far from not believing in BLM.
They have clearly stated that despite taking the knee, nothing is changing. They want something that has an effect.
Please could all these decent folk who oppose the gesture tell me what they should be doing to stop the open racism that is still happening in this country.
I have a dream. It is a dream that MLK had over 50 years ago. It is so sad it is still just a dream. |  |
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| Nsiala not taking a knee on 14:48 - Feb 28 with 1369 views | SpruceMoose |
| Nsiala not taking a knee on 14:37 - Feb 28 by Edmundo |
It's gone from being a gesture of solidarity to virtue signaling. |
Absolute nonsense.
Ffs. When did bring against racism become virtue signaling?
Jesus wept, you can really tell that there are some sheltered yokels on here at times. | |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| Nsiala not taking a knee on 14:59 - Feb 28 with 1355 views | jayessess |
| Nsiala not taking a knee on 14:37 - Feb 28 by Edmundo |
It's gone from being a gesture of solidarity to virtue signaling. |
What's the difference between a "gesture of solidarity" and "virtue signalling"?
Aren't they just positive/negative spins on the exact same thing? |  |
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| Nsiala not taking a knee on 15:01 - Feb 28 with 1353 views | Superblue95 |
| Nsiala not taking a knee on 13:50 - Feb 28 by bluejacko |
😂says you the font of all knowledge ! |
Meaning? |  |
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| Nsiala not taking a knee on 15:20 - Feb 28 with 1328 views | BluedanW |
| Nsiala not taking a knee on 14:47 - Feb 28 by Nthsuffolkblue |
If you listen to what the players who have spoken about stopping it have said, you will realise it is far from not believing in BLM.
They have clearly stated that despite taking the knee, nothing is changing. They want something that has an effect.
Please could all these decent folk who oppose the gesture tell me what they should be doing to stop the open racism that is still happening in this country.
I have a dream. It is a dream that MLK had over 50 years ago. It is so sad it is still just a dream. |
I'm not sure what they expected the knee to do,?
It raised the issues of racism and many people have now found their voice to speak out about racism.
However players are still being racially abused on twitter etc.
But this is generally by the mindless minority.
Did they really think taking the knee would stop Internet trolls with fake accounts harassing players? What worries me more is the people that have been slating Martial and Rashford must actually be Manchester United fans as they seem to have problems with them after poor results and performances. I cant see how anybody can actually slate players because of the colour of their skin.
My issue is with any players poor ability to play football whatever race they are. [Post edited 28 Feb 2021 15:21]
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| Nsiala not taking a knee on 16:50 - Feb 28 with 1269 views | jeera |
| Nsiala not taking a knee on 12:35 - Feb 28 by bluejacko |
It doesn’t suggest anything it’s you that’s reading into it what you want.
I along with you have absolutely no idea what he is thinking I merely said he didn’t want do it. |
You are trying to argue over nothing.
You made the post with nothing to back it up.
So you don't have a clue and you're not really interested.
Why comment then? [Post edited 28 Feb 2021 16:54]
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| Nsiala not taking a knee on 17:22 - Feb 28 with 1245 views | bariotneblue |
| Nsiala not taking a knee on 02:13 - Feb 28 by Adam98 |
Because he doesn't support the thuggish organisation. It's his choice. Good on him. |
Every time someone describes the BLM movement as a negative I like to ask which right-leaning anti racist groups have voiced their support? | | | |
| Nsiala not taking a knee on 17:28 - Feb 28 with 1238 views | BlueBadger |
| Nsiala not taking a knee on 11:55 - Feb 28 by 26_Paz |
He probably thinks it’s become an empty gesture, which it has. When I suggested the very same a few months ago the usual suspects on here had a meltdown. |
If only he'd said he was worried for people's mental health, you could have avoided all this talk of empty gestures. |  |
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| Nsiala not taking a knee on 17:29 - Feb 28 with 1239 views | BlueBadger |
| Nsiala not taking a knee on 13:51 - Feb 28 by Wallingford_Boy |
And yet you down voted my “stand tall and proud” reference?!
Either you misunderstood or.... |
...slightly dim white people making pat statements about how black people should respond to racism is patronising at absolute best? | |
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| Nsiala not taking a knee on 17:31 - Feb 28 with 1231 views | Herbivore |
| Nsiala not taking a knee on 17:29 - Feb 28 by BlueBadger |
...slightly dim white people making pat statements about how black people should respond to racism is patronising at absolute best? |
Precisely this. |  |
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| Nsiala not taking a knee on 17:44 - Feb 28 with 1223 views | Vic |
| Nsiala not taking a knee on 12:29 - Feb 28 by eireblue |
No need to be abusive. |
Abusive? I’m not one to side with Paz, but help me out, why is this abusive? |  |
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| Nsiala not taking a knee on 18:26 - Feb 28 with 1185 views | jeera |
| Nsiala not taking a knee on 17:44 - Feb 28 by Vic |
Abusive? I’m not one to side with Paz, but help me out, why is this abusive? |
Context Vic, context. | |
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| Nsiala not taking a knee on 18:28 - Feb 28 with 1185 views | eireblue |
| Nsiala not taking a knee on 17:44 - Feb 28 by Vic |
Abusive? I’m not one to side with Paz, but help me out, why is this abusive? |
Paz was also being cowardly, “usual suspects”. If you are going to characterise a group of people in a negative way, have the b@lls to address them directly. Other people manage it.
It is hypocritical, meltdown is a term associated with an emotional breakdown, Paz is supposed to be concerned about mental health, but doesn’t seem to mind using the thar term to describe people when it suits him.
It was abusive, since many people on that thread, expressed their own personal experiences of either themselves or friends family having suffered racist abuse. Others had mentioned their experiences on other threads.
Many people with that sort of experience, expressed there opinion on Paz’s position, that people using terms could set context, and minorities that have had years of experience in suffering from racism, could not define what is and isn’t racist.
To characterise a bunch of people that have suffered directly or indirectly from racism, as having a meltdown, when they disagreed with Paz on an issue of racism, is abuse.
It is a typical abusive reaction from someone expressing their privilege. |  | | |
| Nsiala not taking a knee on 18:39 - Feb 28 with 1170 views | 26_Paz |
| Nsiala not taking a knee on 18:28 - Feb 28 by eireblue |
Paz was also being cowardly, “usual suspects”. If you are going to characterise a group of people in a negative way, have the b@lls to address them directly. Other people manage it.
It is hypocritical, meltdown is a term associated with an emotional breakdown, Paz is supposed to be concerned about mental health, but doesn’t seem to mind using the thar term to describe people when it suits him.
It was abusive, since many people on that thread, expressed their own personal experiences of either themselves or friends family having suffered racist abuse. Others had mentioned their experiences on other threads.
Many people with that sort of experience, expressed there opinion on Paz’s position, that people using terms could set context, and minorities that have had years of experience in suffering from racism, could not define what is and isn’t racist.
To characterise a bunch of people that have suffered directly or indirectly from racism, as having a meltdown, when they disagreed with Paz on an issue of racism, is abuse.
It is a typical abusive reaction from someone expressing their privilege. |
Have a day off ... there’s absolutely nothing abusive on there whatsoever | |
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| Nsiala not taking a knee on 18:49 - Feb 28 with 1160 views | eireblue |
| Nsiala not taking a knee on 18:39 - Feb 28 by 26_Paz |
Have a day off ... there’s absolutely nothing abusive on there whatsoever |
It’s not up to you to decide, if falsely labelling people that have been the victims of racists, find your characterisation of their posting on racism topics as having a “meltdown”, is a abusive.
Even your follow up post demonstrates your privilege. [Post edited 28 Feb 2021 18:54]
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| Nsiala not taking a knee on 18:54 - Feb 28 with 1151 views | 26_Paz |
| Nsiala not taking a knee on 18:49 - Feb 28 by eireblue |
It’s not up to you to decide, if falsely labelling people that have been the victims of racists, find your characterisation of their posting on racism topics as having a “meltdown”, is a abusive.
Even your follow up post demonstrates your privilege. [Post edited 28 Feb 2021 18:54]
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You’ve completely lost me now. I genuinely don’t have the first clue what you’re talking about. | |
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| Nsiala not taking a knee on 18:56 - Feb 28 with 1147 views | Herbivore |
| Nsiala not taking a knee on 18:54 - Feb 28 by 26_Paz |
You’ve completely lost me now. I genuinely don’t have the first clue what you’re talking about. |
That's never usually a barrier to you expressing a view. | |
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| Nsiala not taking a knee on 18:56 - Feb 28 with 1148 views | eireblue |
| Nsiala not taking a knee on 18:54 - Feb 28 by 26_Paz |
You’ve completely lost me now. I genuinely don’t have the first clue what you’re talking about. |
Really, so you don’t know what I am on about, but have sufficient knowledge for a down arrow.
Your post was abusive. | | | |
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