| We got blue (black) passports though..... on 12:48 - Mar 23 with 540 views | Herbivore |
| We got blue (black) passports though..... on 08:23 - Mar 23 by Iwasthere |
I received my new black British passport yesterday.
Brexit means Brexit for me at last.
I take it all you little remoaner darlings will not be applying for one when the time comes. |
Hard to leave this sh!t hole island without one, mate. Thankfully I got a burgundy one last year. |  |
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| We got blue (black) passports though..... on 12:50 - Mar 23 with 535 views | Herbivore |
| We got blue (black) passports though..... on 08:35 - Mar 23 by GlasgowBlue |
Other than the ability to go it alone to procure and distribute Covid vaccinations which has seen the UK vaccinate more people than the entire 27 EU countries put together.
As somebody said. Economies can be rebuilt. |
We could have done that anyway, we didn't need to leave in order to do that. | |
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| We got blue (black) passports though..... on 12:52 - Mar 23 with 526 views | IP4_Blue |
| We got blue (black) passports though..... on 18:43 - Mar 22 by nodge_blue |
I voted remain but I cant see the point of keep going on about it.
We have to move on and make the most of it. |
Same as me I voted remain and was not happy at first but wanted the result to be honoured its democracy. Like you say we have to move on and make the most of it |  | | |
| We got blue (black) passports though..... on 12:53 - Mar 23 with 523 views | Herbivore |
| We got blue (black) passports though..... on 12:52 - Mar 23 by IP4_Blue |
Same as me I voted remain and was not happy at first but wanted the result to be honoured its democracy. Like you say we have to move on and make the most of it |
Nah, I'll be straight on the rejoin bandwagon. All this talk of conceding defeat isn't very British I must say. | |
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| We got blue (black) passports though..... on 12:54 - Mar 23 with 521 views | IP4_Blue |
| We got blue (black) passports though..... on 08:25 - Mar 23 by DanTheMan |
I'll get one when my passport expires.
Not that I care about the colour given they just sit in a draw. Anyone who truly cares about the colour is a bit dim. |
So true my passport expired last year and need a new one i couldnt care less what colour it is! | | | |
| We got blue (black) passports though..... on 12:54 - Mar 23 with 520 views | J2BLUE |
| We got blue (black) passports though..... on 08:25 - Mar 23 by DanTheMan |
I'll get one when my passport expires.
Not that I care about the colour given they just sit in a draw. Anyone who truly cares about the colour is a bit dim. |
Especially when there are passport holders available in every colour. Your passport can be rainbow coloured if you really want it to be. |  |
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| We got blue (black) passports though..... on 12:57 - Mar 23 with 511 views | IP4_Blue |
| We got blue (black) passports though..... on 12:54 - Mar 23 by J2BLUE |
Especially when there are passport holders available in every colour. Your passport can be rainbow coloured if you really want it to be. |
I wouldnt be suprised if in the future passports will be electronic and held on your phone | | | |
| We got blue (black) passports though..... on 13:00 - Mar 23 with 494 views | J2BLUE |
| We got blue (black) passports though..... on 12:48 - Mar 23 by Herbivore |
Hard to leave this sh!t hole island without one, mate. Thankfully I got a burgundy one last year. |
Do you have any plans to leave? Not suggesting you should, just interested based on your strong words. | |
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| We got blue (black) passports though..... on 13:21 - Mar 23 with 482 views | GlasgowBlue |
| We got blue (black) passports though..... on 12:50 - Mar 23 by Herbivore |
We could have done that anyway, we didn't need to leave in order to do that. |
And yet no other country in the EU has done so. How odd. |  |
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| We got blue (black) passports though..... on 13:30 - Mar 23 with 472 views | Herbivore |
| We got blue (black) passports though..... on 13:21 - Mar 23 by GlasgowBlue |
And yet no other country in the EU has done so. How odd. |
That's on them. Usually there are benefits to collective purchasing power but that hasn't transpired in this instance. As members we could have opted out and gone our own way, so crediting Brexit for the vaccine rollout is somewhat disingenuous. | |
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| We got blue (black) passports though..... on 13:32 - Mar 23 with 467 views | Herbivore |
| We got blue (black) passports though..... on 13:00 - Mar 23 by J2BLUE |
Do you have any plans to leave? Not suggesting you should, just interested based on your strong words. |
Well I've already left England, which is the second worst bit of the UK after Wales. I have very tentative plans to live in Canada or NZ at some point but that will depend on several factors. Ultimately I'd like to retire to Croatia, which thankfully has exempted itself from the 90 day visa requirements that are now in place across much of the EU. | |
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| We got blue (black) passports though..... on 13:39 - Mar 23 with 465 views | BlueBadger |
| We got blue (black) passports though..... on 08:23 - Mar 23 by Iwasthere |
I received my new black British passport yesterday.
Brexit means Brexit for me at last.
I take it all you little remoaner darlings will not be applying for one when the time comes. |
Voting 'leave' is the political and economic equivalent of saying 'we'll be better in League One, we can regroup and bring through our young players. We'll piss the division anyway'. |  |
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| We got blue (black) passports though..... on 14:03 - Mar 23 with 452 views | GlasgowBlue |
| We got blue (black) passports though..... on 13:32 - Mar 23 by Herbivore |
Well I've already left England, which is the second worst bit of the UK after Wales. I have very tentative plans to live in Canada or NZ at some point but that will depend on several factors. Ultimately I'd like to retire to Croatia, which thankfully has exempted itself from the 90 day visa requirements that are now in place across much of the EU. |
I like how you moved to the region of Scotland that had the highest vote share to remain in the UK and has returned a Tory MP at the last two general elections  | |
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| We got blue (black) passports though..... on 14:06 - Mar 23 with 446 views | J2BLUE |
| We got blue (black) passports though..... on 13:30 - Mar 23 by Herbivore |
That's on them. Usually there are benefits to collective purchasing power but that hasn't transpired in this instance. As members we could have opted out and gone our own way, so crediting Brexit for the vaccine rollout is somewhat disingenuous. |
Disagree. Four countries were lose to deal with AZ and then the EU took over and it dragged on for months.
The vaccine is, IMO, the one undeniable benefit from being outside the EU. As the woman at the top of the EU (can't remember her name) said, there were benefits to being a lifeboat instead of a tanker. Not sure the rest of the tanker would have been thrilled at individual countries leaving that tanker and racing ahead on their own. | |
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| We got blue (black) passports though..... on 14:07 - Mar 23 with 437 views | J2BLUE |
| We got blue (black) passports though..... on 13:32 - Mar 23 by Herbivore |
Well I've already left England, which is the second worst bit of the UK after Wales. I have very tentative plans to live in Canada or NZ at some point but that will depend on several factors. Ultimately I'd like to retire to Croatia, which thankfully has exempted itself from the 90 day visa requirements that are now in place across much of the EU. |
Interesting, thanks for replying. | |
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| We got blue (black) passports though..... on 14:15 - Mar 23 with 420 views | GlasgowBlue |
| We got blue (black) passports though..... on 14:06 - Mar 23 by J2BLUE |
Disagree. Four countries were lose to deal with AZ and then the EU took over and it dragged on for months.
The vaccine is, IMO, the one undeniable benefit from being outside the EU. As the woman at the top of the EU (can't remember her name) said, there were benefits to being a lifeboat instead of a tanker. Not sure the rest of the tanker would have been thrilled at individual countries leaving that tanker and racing ahead on their own. |
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| We got blue (black) passports though..... on 15:50 - Mar 23 with 376 views | Herbivore |
| We got blue (black) passports though..... on 14:06 - Mar 23 by J2BLUE |
Disagree. Four countries were lose to deal with AZ and then the EU took over and it dragged on for months.
The vaccine is, IMO, the one undeniable benefit from being outside the EU. As the woman at the top of the EU (can't remember her name) said, there were benefits to being a lifeboat instead of a tanker. Not sure the rest of the tanker would have been thrilled at individual countries leaving that tanker and racing ahead on their own. |
You're disagreeing with something that's true? Very odd. | |
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| We got blue (black) passports though..... on 15:53 - Mar 23 with 372 views | J2BLUE |
| We got blue (black) passports though..... on 15:50 - Mar 23 by Herbivore |
You're disagreeing with something that's true? Very odd. |
That's it, ignore the rest of the post to avoid criticising the precious EU.
I don't deny that the countries had the right but we all know the internal workings of the EU and they expected everyone on board.
As GB says not one of those countries went out alone in the end. The four that tried had their negotiation taken over. | |
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| We got blue (black) passports though..... on 16:11 - Mar 23 with 366 views | Herbivore |
| We got blue (black) passports though..... on 15:53 - Mar 23 by J2BLUE |
That's it, ignore the rest of the post to avoid criticising the precious EU.
I don't deny that the countries had the right but we all know the internal workings of the EU and they expected everyone on board.
As GB says not one of those countries went out alone in the end. The four that tried had their negotiation taken over. |
"I don't deny that countries had the right" - so you don't disagree then. Glad we've cleared that up. You've always been quite confused about the EU and its remit in fairness, but we got there in the end. | |
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| We got blue (black) passports though..... on 16:18 - Mar 23 with 357 views | J2BLUE |
| We got blue (black) passports though..... on 16:11 - Mar 23 by Herbivore |
"I don't deny that countries had the right" - so you don't disagree then. Glad we've cleared that up. You've always been quite confused about the EU and its remit in fairness, but we got there in the end. |
You won't respond to the point that four countries virtually had a deal done but were pressured to go in with the rest of the EU. | |
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| We got blue (black) passports though..... on 16:34 - Mar 23 with 349 views | Herbivore |
| We got blue (black) passports though..... on 16:18 - Mar 23 by J2BLUE |
You won't respond to the point that four countries virtually had a deal done but were pressured to go in with the rest of the EU. |
I'm not sure how that's relevant to the UK's ability to source its own vaccines not being related to Brexit. We were able to join the EU in block purchasing last year but chose not to. That choice was ours last year during the transition period just as it would have been before we left. Nothing you have said refutes that. | |
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| We got blue (black) passports though..... on 16:40 - Mar 23 with 344 views | J2BLUE |
| We got blue (black) passports though..... on 16:34 - Mar 23 by Herbivore |
I'm not sure how that's relevant to the UK's ability to source its own vaccines not being related to Brexit. We were able to join the EU in block purchasing last year but chose not to. That choice was ours last year during the transition period just as it would have been before we left. Nothing you have said refutes that. |
Not one country inside the EU who had the choice went ahead and ordered alone.
The UK did.
It proves nothing but I think the link is clear. There was plenty of pressure by the sounds of it. Just because countries have options doesn't mean they aren't pressured not to use them. | |
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| We got blue (black) passports though..... on 16:45 - Mar 23 with 335 views | Herbivore |
| We got blue (black) passports though..... on 16:40 - Mar 23 by J2BLUE |
Not one country inside the EU who had the choice went ahead and ordered alone.
The UK did.
It proves nothing but I think the link is clear. There was plenty of pressure by the sounds of it. Just because countries have options doesn't mean they aren't pressured not to use them. |
And the UK always could have done. Brexit makes no difference on that front. The only 'wins' Brexit can claim always inevitably turn out to be things we could always have done. I get that you have a lot of guilt to assuage, but taking issue with facts isn't a great way to go about it. | |
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| We got blue (black) passports though..... on 16:48 - Mar 23 with 334 views | Swansea_Blue |
| We got blue (black) passports though..... on 08:35 - Mar 23 by GlasgowBlue |
Other than the ability to go it alone to procure and distribute Covid vaccinations which has seen the UK vaccinate more people than the entire 27 EU countries put together.
As somebody said. Economies can be rebuilt. |
The EU are still in a pretty good place by world standards and will be where we are now soon enough. A few weeks is neither here nor there in the timeframe of the pandemic. I'm old enough to remember when you were critical of the Welsh & Scottish government's for their slow vaccine start, but they soon caught up 
And the economy angle is a vacuous argument. We'd be in as much of a mess irrespective of whether we were in the EU or not, plus it's not either virus or economy. Deal with the virus better and you don't have as much rebuilding of the economy to do. |  |
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| We got blue (black) passports though..... on 16:51 - Mar 23 with 332 views | J2BLUE |
| We got blue (black) passports though..... on 16:45 - Mar 23 by Herbivore |
And the UK always could have done. Brexit makes no difference on that front. The only 'wins' Brexit can claim always inevitably turn out to be things we could always have done. I get that you have a lot of guilt to assuage, but taking issue with facts isn't a great way to go about it. |
Ha. I think i'm right here. No attempt to cover any guilt.
This is one issue. I'm not trying to get one in the bank so I can throw "but the vaccines!" out there every time the EU is brought up. It was a mistake and I acknowledge my part in it. | |
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