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The big signing they announce when Aston 'officially' starts... 09:40 - May 26 with 4414 viewsOriginalMarkyP

...it's going to be Edwards, isn't it?

https://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/ipswich-town/gwion-edwards-contract-latest-8000540

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The big signing they announce when Aston 'officially' starts... on 11:25 - May 26 with 662 viewsOriginalMarkyP

The big signing they announce when Aston 'officially' starts... on 11:17 - May 26 by blueislander

Is it not the case that certain players are being offered contracts because it is thought that they can then be sold for a fee rather than they become certain starters next season?


Yes. But Edwards is obviously an exception. There is NO motivation for him to sign a contract if he is going to be sold on. He is out of contract. If he signed under those circumstances he'd be taking money out of his own pocket and limiting his options of a club to go to. If he doesn't sign he can move for free obviously enabling a wider pool of clubs to pick him up and also get a more handsome signing on fee. He and his agent would know this. The club would know this. If he is being offered a multiple year contract as the EADT says it can only be because the club and Cook want him to stay.
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The big signing they announce when Aston 'officially' starts... on 11:28 - May 26 with 644 viewsSteve_M

The big signing they announce when Aston 'officially' starts... on 11:17 - May 26 by blueislander

Is it not the case that certain players are being offered contracts because it is thought that they can then be sold for a fee rather than they become certain starters next season?


It's a bizarre logic in Edwards' case though, why would he sign a contract under those circumstances. He can just keep the option on the table and talk to other clubs.

It's a different matter with Jackson and Bishop.

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The big signing they announce when Aston 'officially' starts... on 11:32 - May 26 with 632 viewsblueislander

The big signing they announce when Aston 'officially' starts... on 11:19 - May 26 by tractorboy1978

Bit different triggering an automatic year to offering a 'multi year' new deal.


Did his contract have that further year option?
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The big signing they announce when Aston 'officially' starts... on 11:33 - May 26 with 628 viewsHerbivore

The big signing they announce when Aston 'officially' starts... on 11:17 - May 26 by blueislander

Is it not the case that certain players are being offered contracts because it is thought that they can then be sold for a fee rather than they become certain starters next season?


No.

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The big signing they announce when Aston 'officially' starts... on 11:34 - May 26 with 627 viewstractorboy1978

The big signing they announce when Aston 'officially' starts... on 11:32 - May 26 by blueislander

Did his contract have that further year option?


No, we triggered his extra year last summer. This will be a new contract.
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The big signing they announce when Aston 'officially' starts... on 11:35 - May 26 with 623 viewschrismakin

The big signing they announce when Aston 'officially' starts... on 11:21 - May 26 by hype313

Yes, but one of the biggest failings we have had is an over inflated inadequate squad, so if we're just handing out contracts to guys that are not really Cook's cup of tea then it's a waste of time, or as I suspect it's a ruse to potentially sell on, but I'm sure other clubs will be ready to offer something better if they get a sniff they might have to pay for him.


I think PC likes him. He did afterall play all of the last 8 games?

I think hes capable. And we csnt just have a squad of a starting 11 with no additional qualities behind it.

If you are looking at 2 for a positon Edward's isnt a bad shout to be one of the two.

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The big signing they announce when Aston 'officially' starts... on 11:58 - May 26 with 588 viewsArnieM

I hope we don’t keep Edwards . Far too inconsistent, and clearly wasn’t exactly putting himself about in those remaining games. I’m amazed weve offered him something .

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The big signing they announce when Aston 'officially' starts... on 12:12 - May 26 with 569 viewsjayessess

The big signing they announce when Aston 'officially' starts... on 11:58 - May 26 by ArnieM

I hope we don’t keep Edwards . Far too inconsistent, and clearly wasn’t exactly putting himself about in those remaining games. I’m amazed weve offered him something .


It's such a glaring inconsistency that it makes me wonder about the whole "everyone's leaving" narrative. I can't understand what possible criteria you'd have where you're clearing out so many obviously better players but keeping him.

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The big signing they announce when Aston 'officially' starts... on 12:13 - May 26 with 567 viewschrismakin

The big signing they announce when Aston 'officially' starts... on 12:12 - May 26 by jayessess

It's such a glaring inconsistency that it makes me wonder about the whole "everyone's leaving" narrative. I can't understand what possible criteria you'd have where you're clearing out so many obviously better players but keeping him.


which better players who play in his position have we got rid of?

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The big signing they announce when Aston 'officially' starts... on 12:19 - May 26 with 556 viewsjayessess

The big signing they announce when Aston 'officially' starts... on 12:13 - May 26 by chrismakin

which better players who play in his position have we got rid of?


IMO Dobra's already at his level and is improving all the time. Age also makes him much more useful for squad/salary cap planning.

Yes, he's still here for the moment, but the narrative I was referring to suggested he's on his way out.

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The big signing they announce when Aston 'officially' starts... on 12:24 - May 26 with 536 viewschrismakin

The big signing they announce when Aston 'officially' starts... on 12:19 - May 26 by jayessess

IMO Dobra's already at his level and is improving all the time. Age also makes him much more useful for squad/salary cap planning.

Yes, he's still here for the moment, but the narrative I was referring to suggested he's on his way out.


Maybe since the PC talks, some of our players have indeed turned around and said no i want to stay etc.

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The big signing they announce when Aston 'officially' starts... on 12:33 - May 26 with 530 viewsjayessess

The big signing they announce when Aston 'officially' starts... on 12:24 - May 26 by chrismakin

Maybe since the PC talks, some of our players have indeed turned around and said no i want to stay etc.


Which would be inconsistent with what EADT/TWTD etc. have put in print about the nature of the individual talks the players got.

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Which would be inconsistent with what EADT/TWTD etc. have put in print about the nature of the individual talks the players got.


Wouldn't be inconsistant at all, SW even said at the time it maywell be a test from PC to the players.

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The big signing they announce when Aston 'officially' starts... on 12:41 - May 26 with 522 viewsjayessess

The big signing they announce when Aston 'officially' starts... on 12:35 - May 26 by chrismakin

Wouldn't be inconsistant at all, SW even said at the time it maywell be a test from PC to the players.


At the time, SW allowed for that being a possibility because he wasn't in the room (so couldn't know 100%), but basically said his sources more or less ruled it out.

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The big signing they announce when Aston 'officially' starts... on 12:50 - May 26 with 510 viewschrismakin

The big signing they announce when Aston 'officially' starts... on 12:41 - May 26 by jayessess

At the time, SW allowed for that being a possibility because he wasn't in the room (so couldn't know 100%), but basically said his sources more or less ruled it out.




"Could be some mind games at play. Cook trying to ground anyone he thinks has got ‘over-hyped’ and make sure only players who really want to be at club stay."

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"Could be some mind games at play. Cook trying to ground anyone he thinks has got ‘over-hyped’ and make sure only players who really want to be at club stay."


He largely discounted the idea in the KOA pod they do on the article.

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The big signing they announce when Aston 'officially' starts... on 13:11 - May 26 with 488 viewschrismakin

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He largely discounted the idea in the KOA pod they do on the article.


Truth is no one knows other than PC.

Hes known for playing mind games with players,

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The big signing they announce when Aston 'officially' starts... on 13:14 - May 26 with 477 viewshype313

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Truth is no one knows other than PC.

Hes known for playing mind games with players,


Known where?

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Known where?


At pompy i belive


One specific player, i'll try find the thread i made previously, he wanted to get the best out of, didn't cuddle him, he tried various forms of mind games to get him to release his potential and it paid off

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At pompy i belive


One specific player, i'll try find the thread i made previously, he wanted to get the best out of, didn't cuddle him, he tried various forms of mind games to get him to release his potential and it paid off


You said he's known for playing mind games with players, then you say one specific player.

Which is it?

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The big signing they announce when Aston 'officially' starts... on 13:26 - May 26 with 449 viewschrismakin

The big signing they announce when Aston 'officially' starts... on 13:22 - May 26 by hype313

You said he's known for playing mind games with players, then you say one specific player.

Which is it?


I had one piece that I found personally online to support the thead I made at the time about his mind games, how I came to know about the mind games etc was speaking with pompy and wigan supporters on their forums.

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The big signing they announce when Aston 'officially' starts... on 13:27 - May 26 with 447 viewsHerbivore

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I had one piece that I found personally online to support the thead I made at the time about his mind games, how I came to know about the mind games etc was speaking with pompy and wigan supporters on their forums.


You inflict yourself on opposition fans as well?!

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The big signing they announce when Aston 'officially' starts... on 13:28 - May 26 with 447 viewstractorboy1978

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I had one piece that I found personally online to support the thead I made at the time about his mind games, how I came to know about the mind games etc was speaking with pompy and wigan supporters on their forums.


Was about Kal Naismith wasn't it.
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The big signing they announce when Aston 'officially' starts... on 13:28 - May 26 with 440 viewschrismakin

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Was about Kal Naismith wasn't it.


thats it

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I had one piece that I found personally online to support the thead I made at the time about his mind games, how I came to know about the mind games etc was speaking with pompy and wigan supporters on their forums.


How do you get the time!

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