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Graphical depiction of mass shootings in the US 14:33 - May 27 with 2350 viewsSteve_M

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2021/may/27/us-mass-shootings


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Graphical depiction of mass shootings in the US on 14:37 - May 27 with 2037 viewsHerbivore

They need more good guys with guns.

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Graphical depiction of mass shootings in the US on 14:45 - May 27 with 2006 viewsRadlett_blue

Mass shootings are around 0.2% of annual US deaths from firearms. Even if you strip suicides out of the equation on the grounds that people will find alternative means of killing themselves, that means that mass shootings are less than 0.5% of firearm homicides. So while mass shootings attract huge media attention, they are a tiny part of the problem.

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Graphical depiction of mass shootings in the US on 14:47 - May 27 with 2000 viewsIllinoisblue

The saddest thing of all is nothing will ever change. Such a dumber than dumb country at times.

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Graphical depiction of mass shootings in the US on 14:47 - May 27 by Illinoisblue

The saddest thing of all is nothing will ever change. Such a dumber than dumb country at times.


Do you ever bring gun control up in conversation over there? Or is it just something you keep your beak out of, Illy?

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Graphical depiction of mass shootings in the US on 14:52 - May 27 with 1992 viewshomer_123

Always worth posting this in this situation:

Note, very strong language...



and


Ade Akinbiyi couldn't hit a cows arse with a banjo...
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Graphical depiction of mass shootings in the US on 14:52 - May 27 with 1978 viewshomer_123

Graphical depiction of mass shootings in the US on 14:50 - May 27 by footers

Do you ever bring gun control up in conversation over there? Or is it just something you keep your beak out of, Illy?


Isn't it like talking about how much people earn over here?

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Graphical depiction of mass shootings in the US on 14:52 - May 27 by homer_123

Isn't it like talking about how much people earn over here?


That's what you'd think, isn't it? Best keep well out of it.

Anyone who mentions how much they earn deserves a special place in hell.

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Graphical depiction of mass shootings in the US on 14:55 - May 27 with 1963 viewsSpruceMoose

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Do you ever bring gun control up in conversation over there? Or is it just something you keep your beak out of, Illy?


I'm sure it's discussed tangentially as he waves his Colt revolver around the local 7/11 as the cashier empties her till into a duffel bag.

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Graphical depiction of mass shootings in the US on 14:55 - May 27 with 1960 viewsIllinoisblue

Graphical depiction of mass shootings in the US on 14:50 - May 27 by footers

Do you ever bring gun control up in conversation over there? Or is it just something you keep your beak out of, Illy?


I share my wisdom with the locals but they’ve grown up with the idea that guns are normal. They don’t see anything odd about keeping a small arsenal of weaponry at home.

As many others have said, if 20 kids getting slaughtered at school doesn’t change anything, nothing will.

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Graphical depiction of mass shootings in the US on 14:58 - May 27 with 1943 viewsHerbivore

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That's what you'd think, isn't it? Best keep well out of it.

Anyone who mentions how much they earn deserves a special place in hell.


Spoken like a basic rate tax payer.

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Graphical depiction of mass shootings in the US on 14:58 - May 27 with 1942 viewsSpruceMoose

Graphical depiction of mass shootings in the US on 14:45 - May 27 by Radlett_blue

Mass shootings are around 0.2% of annual US deaths from firearms. Even if you strip suicides out of the equation on the grounds that people will find alternative means of killing themselves, that means that mass shootings are less than 0.5% of firearm homicides. So while mass shootings attract huge media attention, they are a tiny part of the problem.


I think it's important to look at who the victims of shootings are though. They don't tend to be blokes shooting at other blokes both armed with guns. It's school kids, minorities, innocent people. So while you are right, in a purely numbers sense, mass shootings get more than their share coverage, I think it's because of their horrific nature and as such completely understandable.

I think you're getting at the proliferation of guns in general being an awful problem over here, and I make you right.

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Graphical depiction of mass shootings in the US on 14:58 - May 27 by Herbivore

Spoken like a basic rate tax payer.


It's payday today, funnily enough, and they've changed my tax code for some reason...

Steak dinner at chez foot tonight!


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Graphical depiction of mass shootings in the US on 15:01 - May 27 with 1929 viewsWeekender

Graphical depiction of mass shootings in the US on 14:45 - May 27 by Radlett_blue

Mass shootings are around 0.2% of annual US deaths from firearms. Even if you strip suicides out of the equation on the grounds that people will find alternative means of killing themselves, that means that mass shootings are less than 0.5% of firearm homicides. So while mass shootings attract huge media attention, they are a tiny part of the problem.


I know this is a bit off topic but interestingly its been shown that removing a means of suicide actually reduces deaths. People don't always seek alternate means of killing themselves as the act of suicide is often linked to a specific means of doing so in a phenomenon know as coupling.

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Graphical depiction of mass shootings in the US on 15:02 - May 27 with 1920 viewsSpruceMoose

Graphical depiction of mass shootings in the US on 14:53 - May 27 by footers

That's what you'd think, isn't it? Best keep well out of it.

Anyone who mentions how much they earn deserves a special place in hell.


You wouldn't be saying that if you earned too much to get a stimulus check*. Damn you Biden.

* In before "who knew McDonalds paid so well!?"

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Graphical depiction of mass shootings in the US on 15:03 - May 27 with 1923 viewshomer_123

Graphical depiction of mass shootings in the US on 15:00 - May 27 by footers

It's payday today, funnily enough, and they've changed my tax code for some reason...

Steak dinner at chez foot tonight!




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Graphical depiction of mass shootings in the US on 15:08 - May 27 with 1906 viewsSpruceMoose

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Footers is more of a Fray Bentos man I believe, or a minced beef Findus Crispy Pancake if he's celebrating something special.

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Graphical depiction of mass shootings in the US on 15:33 - May 27 with 1848 viewsBlueBadger

Graphical depiction of mass shootings in the US on 14:47 - May 27 by Illinoisblue

The saddest thing of all is nothing will ever change. Such a dumber than dumb country at times.


The only nation in the world with an electorate more willing to be conned by self-interested shysters is this one.

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Graphical depiction of mass shootings in the US on 15:37 - May 27 with 1827 viewsCharlie_pl_baxter

Graphical depiction of mass shootings in the US on 14:45 - May 27 by Radlett_blue

Mass shootings are around 0.2% of annual US deaths from firearms. Even if you strip suicides out of the equation on the grounds that people will find alternative means of killing themselves, that means that mass shootings are less than 0.5% of firearm homicides. So while mass shootings attract huge media attention, they are a tiny part of the problem.


My read of this then is that while Mass Shootings are a huge tragedy the issue of gun deaths in the US is many many times worse than mass shootings alone indicate.

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Graphical depiction of mass shootings in the US on 15:39 - May 27 with 1821 viewsArnoldMoorhen

Graphical depiction of mass shootings in the US on 15:00 - May 27 by footers

It's payday today, funnily enough, and they've changed my tax code for some reason...

Steak dinner at chez foot tonight!



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Graphical depiction of mass shootings in the US on 15:39 - May 27 with 1818 viewsRadlett_blue

Graphical depiction of mass shootings in the US on 14:58 - May 27 by SpruceMoose

I think it's important to look at who the victims of shootings are though. They don't tend to be blokes shooting at other blokes both armed with guns. It's school kids, minorities, innocent people. So while you are right, in a purely numbers sense, mass shootings get more than their share coverage, I think it's because of their horrific nature and as such completely understandable.

I think you're getting at the proliferation of guns in general being an awful problem over here, and I make you right.


Yes, the random murder of innocent citizens, especially children, seems worse & no wonder it gets huge attention. Fortunately the horrors at Hungerford & later Dunblane led to largely sensible gun restrictions being imposed in the UK. I do see polls which indicate that a majority of American support greater restrictions on gun ownership, but these are inevitably blocked by Washington politicians who fear being targeted by the well funded NRA & others, with their absurd arguments.
Yes, the availability of guns does also inevitably lead to a greater number of suicides, some of which might be avoided.

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Graphical depiction of mass shootings in the US on 15:42 - May 27 with 1812 viewsArnoldMoorhen

Graphical depiction of mass shootings in the US on 15:01 - May 27 by Weekender

I know this is a bit off topic but interestingly its been shown that removing a means of suicide actually reduces deaths. People don't always seek alternate means of killing themselves as the act of suicide is often linked to a specific means of doing so in a phenomenon know as coupling.


Which is also why newspaper editors used to follow a code of ethics which specifically called on them not to go into details of suicide methods, or to give prominence to suicide within a story.

Then clickbait happened.

They also used to always refer to helpline numbers if the topic was even raised.

So:

https://www.samaritans.org/
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Graphical depiction of mass shootings in the US on 15:44 - May 27 with 1805 viewsArnoldMoorhen

Graphical depiction of mass shootings in the US on 15:37 - May 27 by Charlie_pl_baxter

My read of this then is that while Mass Shootings are a huge tragedy the issue of gun deaths in the US is many many times worse than mass shootings alone indicate.


Mine is look at the linked Guardian graphic and multiply the figures by 500, for deaths by firearms.

Which is really f king sobering.
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Graphical depiction of mass shootings in the US on 15:39 - May 27 by ArnoldMoorhen

Best possible response to Herbivore throwing the shade at you!


Although I'm not sure my steak dinner will make him envious somehow...

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Graphical depiction of mass shootings in the US on 15:44 - May 27 with 1806 viewsBlueBadger

Graphical depiction of mass shootings in the US on 14:52 - May 27 by homer_123

Always worth posting this in this situation:

Note, very strong language...



and



Much like the Taylor Parkes review whenever Soccer AM is mentioned, this should be essential posting whenever the topic of guns comes up.

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Graphical depiction of mass shootings in the US on 16:04 - May 27 with 1758 viewsArnoldMoorhen

Graphical depiction of mass shootings in the US on 15:44 - May 27 by footers

Although I'm not sure my steak dinner will make him envious somehow...


No, but a teensy bit annoyed!
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