| Vaccination numbers decreasing week by week 20:51 - Jun 26 with 3610 views | Trequartista |
It seems that the vaccination programme which was initially a success is still getting lauded as a success irrespective of how many jabs are done per week.
The total 1st and 2nd doses given have dropped for five consecutive weeks now at a time where we are desperate for people to get jabbed before they catch the Indian/Delta Variant. Thankfully deaths have stayed low but they've still increased, and almost entirely for non or partially vaccinated people.
From what i gather, because we have chosen not to give the AZ vaccine to under 40s, we are totally dependent on the supply of Pfizer and a few Modernas. Whatever happened to Novavax which completed trials and was put forward for approval around February which we are ready to go with in large numbers domestically? These stories seem to disappear in to the ether.
I think we need to start giving the AZ vaccine to young men under 40 again. It wasn't stopped because the risk was too high, it was stopped because the risk for blood clots in young women was slightly higher than Pfizer, so best to give Pfizer. But if the supply of Pfizer is not strong enough, we are not vaccinating enough people. Indeed if Pfizer didn't exist, we would be giving AZ to everyone. |  |
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| Vaccination numbers decreasing week by week on 13:22 - Jun 27 with 653 views | Ryorry |
| Vaccination numbers decreasing week by week on 12:07 - Jun 27 by Mookamoo |
Given the computer literacy of 18-25 year olds, it is worrying that we had about 25 turn up yesterday thinking they had successfully booked an appointment, only to find they were not on the system. If that age group can't work it out, the current booking process is critically flawed. |
You're the first person I've heard who's said the online booking process is flawed - I hope those 25 didn't get phished/scammed by the fake email that was doing the rounds early in the vacc. programme. |  |
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| Vaccination numbers decreasing week by week on 14:05 - Jun 27 with 628 views | Mookamoo |
| Vaccination numbers decreasing week by week on 13:22 - Jun 27 by Ryorry |
You're the first person I've heard who's said the online booking process is flawed - I hope those 25 didn't get phished/scammed by the fake email that was doing the rounds early in the vacc. programme. |
We tried to get to the bottom of it, and it might just be a Stowmarket issue, in that there was no where to book your second jab locally. Most have Diss as their second jab location. Those that didn't want to go to Diss and thought they had deferred their second jabs were the ones having an issue and had inadvertently cancelled their first.
Its a little disingenuous of some to dismiss the 18-25s as stupid or apathetic. They have proved time and time again over the last 18 months they are prepared, and want to do the right thing.
I perfectly accept it It might also be a case of just not reading the page properly, but these things have to be designed with the end user in mind. If the end use isn't managing the process, the design is at fault. Thats is also ignoring the wider issue in that 18-25s are much less likely to engage in a booking process. Access to a jab has to evolve to walk-in as soon as possible. |  | | |
| Vaccination numbers decreasing week by week on 14:20 - Jun 27 with 614 views | bluelagos |
| Vaccination numbers decreasing week by week on 21:25 - Jun 26 by Sarge |
1st dose numbers are on the rise, it’s 2nd doses that have dropped sharply so whilst it’s fashionable to shift the blame onto young people, it’s not accurate. Remember these are the same young people who have had their lives put on hold for well over a year exclusively for the benefit of other people, and if travel is opened up to fully vaccinated people, will continue to sit in limbo whilst the people they’ve been protecting swan off on holiday. They’re not prolonging this.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55274833 |
They have been amazing in making sacrafices to prevent a disease that clearly targets the elderly way more than the young. And no doubt they will face the economic impact and the tax increased burden too, on average more than the elderly.
One example ref the burden, consider this: Due to the number of job losses (lower paid ones) the average earnings have gone up 7%. Not the average earner earns 7% more, just that the overall average has gone up. And on the back of that, the triple lock pension guarantee will deliver pensioners a 7% rise this year.
So,the low paid younguns (hospitality) lose their jobs and pensioners gain a rise on the back of it.
Not having a dig at pensioners (none of this is their doing) just recognising that whilst the elderly have born the bulk of the illnesses/deaths, the young have born the bulk of the social and financial impact. |  |
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| Vaccination numbers decreasing week by week on 15:27 - Jun 27 with 582 views | Ryorry |
| Vaccination numbers decreasing week by week on 14:20 - Jun 27 by bluelagos |
They have been amazing in making sacrafices to prevent a disease that clearly targets the elderly way more than the young. And no doubt they will face the economic impact and the tax increased burden too, on average more than the elderly.
One example ref the burden, consider this: Due to the number of job losses (lower paid ones) the average earnings have gone up 7%. Not the average earner earns 7% more, just that the overall average has gone up. And on the back of that, the triple lock pension guarantee will deliver pensioners a 7% rise this year.
So,the low paid younguns (hospitality) lose their jobs and pensioners gain a rise on the back of it.
Not having a dig at pensioners (none of this is their doing) just recognising that whilst the elderly have born the bulk of the illnesses/deaths, the young have born the bulk of the social and financial impact. |
I'dd agree with most of that, albeit I haven't seen a reliable statistical breakdown of who's breaking the guidelines/rules most re maskwearing, distancing, socialising etc. amongst the agegroups - if there is any difference between them - maybe it's spread out evenly.
I, and many that I know who are also retired, would happily have given up our early first vaccs to younger people in work, esp key workers such as health & care workers, drivers, shop assistants etc, as they were required to be out there working (& looking after us); whereas we had the choice of staying at home or at least seriously limiting our activities. It's a shame that in terms of booking our vaccs, we weren't given that choice. | |
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| Vaccination numbers decreasing week by week on 15:35 - Jun 27 with 555 views | bluelagos |
| Vaccination numbers decreasing week by week on 15:27 - Jun 27 by Ryorry |
I'dd agree with most of that, albeit I haven't seen a reliable statistical breakdown of who's breaking the guidelines/rules most re maskwearing, distancing, socialising etc. amongst the agegroups - if there is any difference between them - maybe it's spread out evenly.
I, and many that I know who are also retired, would happily have given up our early first vaccs to younger people in work, esp key workers such as health & care workers, drivers, shop assistants etc, as they were required to be out there working (& looking after us); whereas we had the choice of staying at home or at least seriously limiting our activities. It's a shame that in terms of booking our vaccs, we weren't given that choice. |
For me, one thing that is really encouraging is the level of uptake of the vaccine.
Look back at threads say 9 months back when a vaccine was at test stage, there was a lot of concern that we wouldn't get the 70-80% needed to achieve herd immunity. We were worried we would need things like vaccine passports to "encourage" people to get jabbed and the simple truth is, we haven't needed them.
80-85%+ will soon be in the bag. And that is despite the worry around blood clots some had. All in, the british public have done a cracking job :-) | |
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| Vaccination numbers decreasing week by week on 15:35 - Jun 27 with 556 views | footers |
| Vaccination numbers decreasing week by week on 14:05 - Jun 27 by Mookamoo |
We tried to get to the bottom of it, and it might just be a Stowmarket issue, in that there was no where to book your second jab locally. Most have Diss as their second jab location. Those that didn't want to go to Diss and thought they had deferred their second jabs were the ones having an issue and had inadvertently cancelled their first.
Its a little disingenuous of some to dismiss the 18-25s as stupid or apathetic. They have proved time and time again over the last 18 months they are prepared, and want to do the right thing.
I perfectly accept it It might also be a case of just not reading the page properly, but these things have to be designed with the end user in mind. If the end use isn't managing the process, the design is at fault. Thats is also ignoring the wider issue in that 18-25s are much less likely to engage in a booking process. Access to a jab has to evolve to walk-in as soon as possible. |
That was the case for mine as well. Didn't complete the process the first time because the second was always way outside of where I live. Thought I'd booked it then, stupidly, but had to wait until a second jab was available in my area. Put the whole process back about a week because of it.
Ended up cancelling the second and re-booking more locally anyhow, but not surprising that many people don't know they can do this unless they're told about it. |  |
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| Vaccination numbers decreasing week by week on 15:43 - Jun 27 with 541 views | longtimefan |
| Vaccination numbers decreasing week by week on 12:07 - Jun 27 by Mookamoo |
Given the computer literacy of 18-25 year olds, it is worrying that we had about 25 turn up yesterday thinking they had successfully booked an appointment, only to find they were not on the system. If that age group can't work it out, the current booking process is critically flawed. |
Neither of my children (19 and 22) have had any problem booking or receiving their first jabs, so I don’t believe there is a critical flaw in the booking system. |  | | |
| Vaccination numbers decreasing week by week on 15:54 - Jun 27 with 530 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Vaccination numbers decreasing week by week on 14:20 - Jun 27 by bluelagos |
They have been amazing in making sacrafices to prevent a disease that clearly targets the elderly way more than the young. And no doubt they will face the economic impact and the tax increased burden too, on average more than the elderly.
One example ref the burden, consider this: Due to the number of job losses (lower paid ones) the average earnings have gone up 7%. Not the average earner earns 7% more, just that the overall average has gone up. And on the back of that, the triple lock pension guarantee will deliver pensioners a 7% rise this year.
So,the low paid younguns (hospitality) lose their jobs and pensioners gain a rise on the back of it.
Not having a dig at pensioners (none of this is their doing) just recognising that whilst the elderly have born the bulk of the illnesses/deaths, the young have born the bulk of the social and financial impact. |
The current recovery is gathering a pace higher than anticipated. We are also seeing increases in inflation rate, our recovery is lagging behind the US where inflation is now 5% and it is possible there will be a rise in interest rates.
It was predictable, 12 months ago, that wages towards the end of 2021 could be as much as 10% higher year in year. The Chancellor should have announced, earlier this year, an upper limit to pension rises in April 2022 of 5%.
Inflation is the biggest danger especially if it pushes wages higher.
Pent up demand is driving the economy. We have builders in tomorrow for work put off a year ago. There are several other households in our close with building work in progress or due to start in the next week or so.
The biggest problem for younger generations is the current rate of increase in house prices. |  |
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| Vaccination numbers decreasing week by week on 16:13 - Jun 27 with 500 views | bluelagos |
| Vaccination numbers decreasing week by week on 15:54 - Jun 27 by Pinewoodblue |
The current recovery is gathering a pace higher than anticipated. We are also seeing increases in inflation rate, our recovery is lagging behind the US where inflation is now 5% and it is possible there will be a rise in interest rates.
It was predictable, 12 months ago, that wages towards the end of 2021 could be as much as 10% higher year in year. The Chancellor should have announced, earlier this year, an upper limit to pension rises in April 2022 of 5%.
Inflation is the biggest danger especially if it pushes wages higher.
Pent up demand is driving the economy. We have builders in tomorrow for work put off a year ago. There are several other households in our close with building work in progress or due to start in the next week or so.
The biggest problem for younger generations is the current rate of increase in house prices. |
Ref your final point, we have a government that still thinks the answer to worries about house prices and/or affordability is to subsidise house purchases (help to buy, reduce stamp duty) thus yet again, helping push up house prices.
This has been the policy for all of my adult life. The minute they look at increasing supply (relaxing planning rules) and the nimbys go mental and they back down. God forbid we should actually provide affordable homes for the youngsters.
George Monibot recently wrote an excellent article about second home ownership which is another contributer to high prices, especially in places like Cornwall and some coastal suffolk towns. | |
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| Vaccination numbers decreasing week by week on 17:28 - Jun 27 with 474 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Vaccination numbers decreasing week by week on 16:13 - Jun 27 by bluelagos |
Ref your final point, we have a government that still thinks the answer to worries about house prices and/or affordability is to subsidise house purchases (help to buy, reduce stamp duty) thus yet again, helping push up house prices.
This has been the policy for all of my adult life. The minute they look at increasing supply (relaxing planning rules) and the nimbys go mental and they back down. God forbid we should actually provide affordable homes for the youngsters.
George Monibot recently wrote an excellent article about second home ownership which is another contributer to high prices, especially in places like Cornwall and some coastal suffolk towns. |
When you give planning permission for a single building company to build 1000+ units on one site it gives the builder total control of supply and demand and allows maximum profit for the builder.
Everything is stacked against the first time buyer. | |
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| Vaccination numbers decreasing week by week on 19:03 - Jun 27 with 448 views | chrismakin |
What is worrying, I personally now know 2 people that have been admitted to ICU in the past week with covid, 2 vac jabs too.
Both in the older age range mind you, but still. |  |
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