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Why can't this woman say Azpilicueta?! 17:11 - Jun 28 with 4763 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

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Why can't this woman say Azpilicueta?! on 12:52 - Jun 29 with 559 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Why can't this woman say Azpilicueta?! on 12:36 - Jun 29 by Butterbing

I don't think anybody is taking offence at you referring to her as a woman. It was the use of "this woman" in the context of your negative post. It is very easy to interpret your phrasing to be derogatory.

I believe you are potentially intentionally misunderstanding to create an argument so I shall leave it here.


The irony being I'm not actually the one creating the argument.

So it's the use of the word "this" that offends you?! FML. I think you're overthinking.

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You can't say "woke".... on 12:52 - Jun 29 with 558 viewsBloots

Why can't this woman say Azpilicueta?! on 12:49 - Jun 29 by The_Flashing_Smile

Jesus wept, I was just making a quick comment about a commentator. I didn't think I'd need to spend time looking up their name, just as I wouldn't have if it was a male commentator I didn't know the name of.

The righteous indignation over a throwaway comment that was nothing to do with gender is quite astonishing in this thread, and I like to feel like I'm a fairly modern/woke kind of guy, sorry 'person'.


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Why can't this woman say Azpilicueta?! on 12:53 - Jun 29 with 555 viewsButterbing

Why can't this woman say Azpilicueta?! on 12:52 - Jun 29 by The_Flashing_Smile

The irony being I'm not actually the one creating the argument.

So it's the use of the word "this" that offends you?! FML. I think you're overthinking.


At least I'm thinking.
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Why can't this woman say Azpilicueta?! on 12:57 - Jun 29 with 550 viewsjayessess

Why can't this woman say Azpilicueta?! on 12:49 - Jun 29 by The_Flashing_Smile

Jesus wept, I was just making a quick comment about a commentator. I didn't think I'd need to spend time looking up their name, just as I wouldn't have if it was a male commentator I didn't know the name of.

The righteous indignation over a throwaway comment that was nothing to do with gender is quite astonishing in this thread, and I like to feel like I'm a fairly modern/woke kind of guy, sorry 'person'.


Your "quick comment" isn't happening in a societal vacuum though, is it? Women, especially in football, get disproportionate grief about the acceptability of their tone, accent and much more besides. There's no righteous indignation here, just some acknowledgement of context.

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Why can't this woman say Azpilicueta?! on 12:59 - Jun 29 with 539 viewsBryanPlug

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Why can't this woman say Azpilicueta?! on 13:08 - Jun 29 with 503 viewsfooters

Very funny thread. I'll give it three thumbs up.

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Why can't this woman say Azpilicueta?! on 13:42 - Jun 29 with 462 viewsRyorry

Why can't this woman say Azpilicueta?! on 12:57 - Jun 29 by jayessess

Your "quick comment" isn't happening in a societal vacuum though, is it? Women, especially in football, get disproportionate grief about the acceptability of their tone, accent and much more besides. There's no righteous indignation here, just some acknowledgement of context.


It's very good to see things have moved on on this forum, tho given some of the unprovoked vitriolic abuse (mostly not sexist, but including some outright sexual harrassment from a couple of individuals) I've had on here in the past, I have to say that for me personally "this woman" would barely register as '1' on a scale of 1-100 where 100 is the worst!

Having said that, there is of course the potential of "little acorns" - it's always good to have and show respect from the outset 👍
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Why can't this woman say Azpilicueta?! on 13:50 - Jun 29 with 448 viewsjeera

Why can't this woman say Azpilicueta?! on 10:47 - Jun 29 by jayessess

Like I say, miserable thing to get at someone for.


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Why can't this woman say Azpilicueta?! on 13:54 - Jun 29 with 429 viewsjayessess

Why can't this woman say Azpilicueta?! on 13:50 - Jun 29 by jeera

What about Liverpudlian?

Just checking.


Terrible, especially ones whose pitch changes from sentence to sentence ;-)

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Why can't this woman say Azpilicueta?! on 15:35 - Jun 29 with 386 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Why can't this woman say Azpilicueta?! on 13:42 - Jun 29 by Ryorry

It's very good to see things have moved on on this forum, tho given some of the unprovoked vitriolic abuse (mostly not sexist, but including some outright sexual harrassment from a couple of individuals) I've had on here in the past, I have to say that for me personally "this woman" would barely register as '1' on a scale of 1-100 where 100 is the worst!

Having said that, there is of course the potential of "little acorns" - it's always good to have and show respect from the outset 👍
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I appreciate you, as a woman, saying "this woman" barely registers on the offensive scale. It certainly wasn't meant as offensive, and it's interesting that it's men on this thread who are getting offended on behalf of women.

It was literally a descriptor and I'm amazed at the direction this thread has gone. I think if some took a step back, took my comment literally for what it was, they can easily see how I wasn't being sexist or misogynistic. Makes me laugh that I'm accused of being argumentative on here when on this thread it's others trying to start an argument out of what I think is a very innocuous phrase. It's also funny that if was all about what the male commentator had said, most of this thread wouldn't have happened.

But there we go. I have nothing more to say on the matter. People can make their own judgements.

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