| Scotland's deficit getting a bit pricey now on 20:47 - Aug 18 with 867 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Scotland's deficit getting a bit pricey now on 20:42 - Aug 18 by Darth_Koont |
Well said.
And as a lover of the UK and its regions as a whole, it’s a crying shame it’s come to this. People confuse Pro-Independence with some sort of crazed nationalism but nothing could be further from the truth – it’s predominantly people who think society can and should be better. |
I don't believe that for one minute.
It boils down to tribalism. Scotland is a poundshop Northern Ireland. |  |
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| Scotland's deficit getting a bit pricey now on 20:55 - Aug 18 with 852 views | Darth_Koont |
| Scotland's deficit getting a bit pricey now on 20:47 - Aug 18 by Lord_Lucan |
I don't believe that for one minute.
It boils down to tribalism. Scotland is a poundshop Northern Ireland. |
And you’re a white middle-aged South Easterner. Probably the least qualified group to talk about the UK and what it needs. 😇 |  |
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| Scotland's deficit getting a bit pricey now on 20:57 - Aug 18 with 843 views | scotdoc |
| Scotland's deficit getting a bit pricey now on 20:47 - Aug 18 by Lord_Lucan |
I don't believe that for one minute.
It boils down to tribalism. Scotland is a poundshop Northern Ireland. |
Jings,almost for the last time, can't people understand arithmetic.
Scotland,under no circumstances,is a financial goer.
An idiot can see it.
Help! |  | | |
| Scotland's deficit getting a bit pricey now on 21:02 - Aug 18 with 830 views | WeWereZombies |
| Scotland's deficit getting a bit pricey now on 20:47 - Aug 18 by Lord_Lucan |
I don't believe that for one minute.
It boils down to tribalism. Scotland is a poundshop Northern Ireland. |
Like I said, it is up to the English to show some improvement if the Union is to survive. Retreating into silly jibes (and have you compared property prices in Northern Ireland and Scotland lately?) about poundshops does not close with the problems. Post pandemic. if there is ever going to be a definite post pandemic, we are going to see increasing changes to balances of power as the effects of a changing climate take hold. It will be the nations who are alert to this and the benefits of favourable strategic alliances who have the ability to survive. |  |
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| Scotland's deficit getting a bit pricey now on 21:07 - Aug 18 with 818 views | Darth_Koont |
| Scotland's deficit getting a bit pricey now on 20:57 - Aug 18 by scotdoc |
Jings,almost for the last time, can't people understand arithmetic.
Scotland,under no circumstances,is a financial goer.
An idiot can see it.
Help! |
So how do the Nordic nations and Ireland work then? In fact, not just work but have a significantly better GDP and/or standard of living.
Why are Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales all significantly below them (and most of England too)?
Clearly, I just don’t understand arithmetic. | |
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| Scotland's deficit getting a bit pricey now on 21:10 - Aug 18 with 807 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Scotland's deficit getting a bit pricey now on 20:55 - Aug 18 by Darth_Koont |
And you’re a white middle-aged South Easterner. Probably the least qualified group to talk about the UK and what it needs. 😇 |
We are all entitled to our opinion - just about.
I love the Scots, I really do and I want them to remain part of The UK, but I think they're a drain.
They should sort themselves out, they are a proper mess. | |
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| Scotland's deficit getting a bit pricey now on 21:13 - Aug 18 with 801 views | Darth_Koont |
| Scotland's deficit getting a bit pricey now on 21:10 - Aug 18 by Lord_Lucan |
We are all entitled to our opinion - just about.
I love the Scots, I really do and I want them to remain part of The UK, but I think they're a drain.
They should sort themselves out, they are a proper mess. |
But Scotland can’t “sort itself out”. The UK is one of the most centralised countries in the OECD.
I always find that understanding the problem is the best way to come up with a solution. But each to their own. | |
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| Scotland's deficit getting a bit pricey now on 21:18 - Aug 18 with 786 views | J2BLUE |
| Scotland's deficit getting a bit pricey now on 21:13 - Aug 18 by Darth_Koont |
But Scotland can’t “sort itself out”. The UK is one of the most centralised countries in the OECD.
I always find that understanding the problem is the best way to come up with a solution. But each to their own. |
What is your solution?
Keep threatening to leave every two years to give that magic money tree a good shake?  |  |
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| Scotland's deficit getting a bit pricey now on 21:21 - Aug 18 with 776 views | WeWereZombies |
| Scotland's deficit getting a bit pricey now on 21:18 - Aug 18 by J2BLUE |
What is your solution?
Keep threatening to leave every two years to give that magic money tree a good shake? |
You haven't read the thread, have you? | |
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| Scotland's deficit getting a bit pricey now on 21:22 - Aug 18 with 772 views | Darth_Koont |
| Scotland's deficit getting a bit pricey now on 21:18 - Aug 18 by J2BLUE |
What is your solution?
Keep threatening to leave every two years to give that magic money tree a good shake? |
Obviously not. That we need some sort of handout (as if it’s some generous gift) is the symptom of where the UK is going wrong.
No-one can answer why Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales are the worst-off countries in North Western Europe. Do you think it’s because we’ve been spoilt too much? 😀 | |
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| Scotland's deficit getting a bit pricey now on 21:55 - Aug 18 with 736 views | J2BLUE |
| Scotland's deficit getting a bit pricey now on 21:21 - Aug 18 by WeWereZombies |
You haven't read the thread, have you? |
I hadn't, no. | |
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| Scotland's deficit getting a bit pricey now on 22:03 - Aug 18 with 731 views | Durovigutum |
| Scotland's deficit getting a bit pricey now on 20:37 - Aug 18 by Darth_Koont |
We don’t know about leadership (although I’d take Sturgeon over Johnson every time and on every question). But that’s what a post-Independence Scottish democracy is for.
The SNP is a rather clumsy umbrella for pro-independence with a social democratic-ish feel. The Unionists are hopelessly bound to an outdated and out of touch UK politics so it’s actually quite difficult to see what they stand for in any real sense.
I’d put the Scottish political centre of balance on the centre-left. And a fair bit left of the centre-right of Labour, the LibDems and certainly the right of the Conservatives. So there’d need to be a big re-organisation of political representation and how people talk after independence. Which would only be a good thing.
If I were a betting man, I’d bet on a green social democrat party rising to the top and aligning Scotland with the Nordic nations. Theirs would certainly be a tried and tested approach to follow. |
I'm currently sitting in East Lothian and visited Edinburgh today. I'm not sure people realise the military impact of Scotland, especially an SNP non-nuclear Scotland, on NATO and the mischief Russia could cause. The governance aspects are visible across the UK, those areas that have been able to reduce the tight grip of centralisation to aspects of life have found improvements in those aspects - but we have no chance of anything sensible with the current mob, and they will win the next election. I fear an independent England (and Wales) in my lifetime with Ireland uniting and Scotland going somewhere else. The former will probably work, the latter I fear would be like Johnson's Brexit will increasingly be shown up as - made up as it goes along. With a fair wind that could work, but a big bump in the road and it could prove troublesome. I do think the country would get behind it, so success would not be for want of trying. |  | | |
| Scotland's deficit getting a bit pricey now on 07:59 - Aug 24 with 588 views | WeWereZombies |
| Scotland's deficit getting a bit pricey now on 22:03 - Aug 18 by Durovigutum |
I'm currently sitting in East Lothian and visited Edinburgh today. I'm not sure people realise the military impact of Scotland, especially an SNP non-nuclear Scotland, on NATO and the mischief Russia could cause. The governance aspects are visible across the UK, those areas that have been able to reduce the tight grip of centralisation to aspects of life have found improvements in those aspects - but we have no chance of anything sensible with the current mob, and they will win the next election. I fear an independent England (and Wales) in my lifetime with Ireland uniting and Scotland going somewhere else. The former will probably work, the latter I fear would be like Johnson's Brexit will increasingly be shown up as - made up as it goes along. With a fair wind that could work, but a big bump in the road and it could prove troublesome. I do think the country would get behind it, so success would not be for want of trying. |
Whilst it is true that the practicalities of Scotland throwing out nuclear weapons are complex (the loss of employment around Holy Loch would be deeply unpopular for a start) you also have to acknowledge that MAD as a grotesque piece of kidology has had its day too. The creep of the use of depleted uranium and such materials into conventional weapons is the more likely scenario these days; anything that can be done to prevent the spread of that (and the increasing likelihood that such weaponry will fall into the hands of forces such as the Taliban) makes a restatement of non-proliferation more urgent. Scotland's fearsome reputation in military history would make any statement of intent or actual course of action internationally significant to an extent far beyond the modest population of the nation.
However, I see naval power as much more important for the waters around the north of the British Isles (and across to Iceland, the Faroes and Scandinavia) - it is here that all the influence to limit Russian power can be most effectively used. There has to be an overt policing role not just for military aims but more importantly for economic and environmental reasons, the continuing melt towards the poles gives Russia advantages which they are, understandably, exploiting. Westminster if more likely to be clueless and blind to this than Holyrood. | |
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| Scotland's deficit getting a bit pricey now on 09:14 - Aug 24 with 552 views | GeoffSentence |
| Scotland's deficit getting a bit pricey now on 21:10 - Aug 18 by Lord_Lucan |
We are all entitled to our opinion - just about.
I love the Scots, I really do and I want them to remain part of The UK, but I think they're a drain.
They should sort themselves out, they are a proper mess. |
I quite like haggis and a drop of whiskey, shortbread is gorgeous.
But we've got the recipes now....... |  |
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| Scotland's deficit getting a bit pricey now on 09:35 - Aug 24 with 527 views | TractorWood |
Everyone knows the deal. They get cake and eat it politically and economically. Rest of UK get to holiday in the stunning country and to deride the SPL. |  |
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| Scotland's deficit getting a bit pricey now on 10:36 - Aug 24 with 490 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Scotland's deficit getting a bit pricey now on 16:59 - Aug 18 by GlasgowBlue |
The UK as a whole is 14.3%. With Scotland at 24% you can do the maths. Obviously going to be lower than 14.3% unless Wales and NI are even lower, which I very much doubt. |
I reckon 5% of Scotland's deficit is down to you and yours use of the NHS  |  |
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| Scotland's deficit getting a bit pricey now on 10:42 - Aug 24 with 477 views | Herbivore |
| Scotland's deficit getting a bit pricey now on 10:36 - Aug 24 by Swansea_Blue |
I reckon 5% of Scotland's deficit is down to you and yours use of the NHS |
If we collected our own taxes the VAT on Glassers' Diet Coke habit would quickly wipe out the deficit.
To all those expressing anti-Scottish sentiment on this thread, go boil ya heeds ya bawbags. |  |
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| Scotland's deficit getting a bit pricey now on 10:58 - Aug 24 with 451 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Scotland's deficit getting a bit pricey now on 10:42 - Aug 24 by Herbivore |
If we collected our own taxes the VAT on Glassers' Diet Coke habit would quickly wipe out the deficit.
To all those expressing anti-Scottish sentiment on this thread, go boil ya heeds ya bawbags. |
Easy innit.
Tax diet Coke at 300% and wrap up the Glasser household in cotton wool and keep them away form sports and sharp object. | |
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| Scotland's deficit getting a bit pricey now on 12:51 - Aug 24 with 408 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Scotland's deficit getting a bit pricey now on 10:42 - Aug 24 by Herbivore |
If we collected our own taxes the VAT on Glassers' Diet Coke habit would quickly wipe out the deficit.
To all those expressing anti-Scottish sentiment on this thread, go boil ya heeds ya bawbags. |
Coke Zero. |  |
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