| I know I'm in a minority..... 10:54 - Oct 4 with 8190 views | blueysbackside |
....but the season for me started when Morsy and Celina were fit - and Cook was able to field what is arguably his strongest XI. What took place last season and early this season is an irrelevance to me - and I've posted before the reasons why. What he needs now is until Xmas to get this lot into a well-oiled winning machine. If we're still where we are now, I'll admit defeat. Until, then, however, he's still the man for me. |  | | |  |
| I know I'm in a minority..... on 13:55 - Oct 4 with 1234 views | blueysbackside |
| I know I'm in a minority..... on 13:29 - Oct 4 by Herbivore |
The only way any of the loanees stay permanently is if we go up, so we're back again to the owners and management having higher expectations than you for this season. |
Sorry, but you don’t know that. So if we don’t go up and, say, make the play-offs, then Bonne won’t sign? And I might be wrong here but can you show me any direct quotes from the owners saying we must go up THIS season. It’s investment for the long term. | | | |
| I know I'm in a minority..... on 13:57 - Oct 4 with 1231 views | blueysbackside |
| I know I'm in a minority..... on 13:40 - Oct 4 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Which of Walton, Coulsen, Barry, Celina or Bonne are you expecting to sign permanently if we’re still in Division 3 next season? |
Since you ask, Bonne and Coulson. Barry will be back at Villa v soon. | | | |
| I know I'm in a minority..... on 14:05 - Oct 4 with 1202 views | jayessess |
| I know I'm in a minority..... on 13:55 - Oct 4 by blueysbackside |
Sorry, but you don’t know that. So if we don’t go up and, say, make the play-offs, then Bonne won’t sign? And I might be wrong here but can you show me any direct quotes from the owners saying we must go up THIS season. It’s investment for the long term. |
Sorry, but apply some common sense. The owners are on record that it isn't their intention to break or bend the SCMP rules (and why should they have to, our income dwarfs most clubs in the league anyway! How much does the manager need?!). We're stacked with players on big long-term contracts, who almost certainly take up our entire wage budget, none of whom will be easy to shift after an indifferent season in League One.
It is very unlikely we'll be shopping for any striker whose current contract runs to £18k a week. |  |
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| I know I'm in a minority..... on 14:12 - Oct 4 with 1190 views | Herbivore |
| I know I'm in a minority..... on 13:55 - Oct 4 by blueysbackside |
Sorry, but you don’t know that. So if we don’t go up and, say, make the play-offs, then Bonne won’t sign? And I might be wrong here but can you show me any direct quotes from the owners saying we must go up THIS season. It’s investment for the long term. |
The long term project is getting to the Prem, not getting out of League 1. |  |
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| I know I'm in a minority..... on 14:20 - Oct 4 with 1177 views | ElderGrizzly |
| I know I'm in a minority..... on 13:40 - Oct 4 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Which of Walton, Coulsen, Barry, Celina or Bonne are you expecting to sign permanently if we’re still in Division 3 next season? |
Indeed. They've signed to join a promotion push, not play mid-table football.
They, along with players like Morsy will go if we are here next season. |  | | |
| I know I'm in a minority..... on 14:24 - Oct 4 with 1155 views | blueysbackside |
| I know I'm in a minority..... on 14:20 - Oct 4 by ElderGrizzly |
Indeed. They've signed to join a promotion push, not play mid-table football.
They, along with players like Morsy will go if we are here next season. |
I think Bonne would stay. As for the others, if we don’t go up (and I don’t think we will) this season), we could well see a similar clear out next summer along the lines of the one we just had. To say players will ‘just go’ is nonsense | | | |
| I know I'm in a minority..... on 14:26 - Oct 4 with 1150 views | blueysbackside |
| I know I'm in a minority..... on 14:12 - Oct 4 by Herbivore |
The long term project is getting to the Prem, not getting out of League 1. |
And - shock, horror - it might take a little longer than anticipated to get out of this division. With or without Cook and this current squad | | | |
| I know I'm in a minority..... on 14:28 - Oct 4 with 1145 views | ElderGrizzly |
| I know I'm in a minority..... on 14:24 - Oct 4 by blueysbackside |
I think Bonne would stay. As for the others, if we don’t go up (and I don’t think we will) this season), we could well see a similar clear out next summer along the lines of the one we just had. To say players will ‘just go’ is nonsense |
They clearly can't "just go", but you can be sure their agents will be agitating to go back to a higher level.
The 'project' was promotion this season with the budget and squad we have. | | | |
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| I know I'm in a minority..... on 14:32 - Oct 4 with 1143 views | SomethingBlue |
| I know I'm in a minority..... on 14:20 - Oct 4 by ElderGrizzly |
Indeed. They've signed to join a promotion push, not play mid-table football.
They, along with players like Morsy will go if we are here next season. |
Exactly, that is what people need to realise — this is not a squad built to be carefully nurtured in the hope it storms the league in two years' time. It has to happen now, which is why it has to *really* start happening in the next four weeks. [Post edited 4 Oct 2021 14:36]
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| I know I'm in a minority..... on 14:35 - Oct 4 with 1123 views | blueysbackside |
| I know I'm in a minority..... on 14:32 - Oct 4 by SomethingBlue |
Exactly, that is what people need to realise — this is not a squad built to be carefully nurtured in the hope it storms the league in two years' time. It has to happen now, which is why it has to *really* start happening in the next four weeks. [Post edited 4 Oct 2021 14:36]
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Brett Johnson:
He added: "We want to put the club back on its rightful pedestal. The Championship is absolutely our goal, but I don't know anyone who invests in English football who doesn't have the aspiration to get to the Premier League.“
Nothing about ‘this season’. | | | |
| I know I'm in a minority..... on 14:36 - Oct 4 with 1118 views | SomethingBlue |
| I know I'm in a minority..... on 14:35 - Oct 4 by blueysbackside |
Brett Johnson:
He added: "We want to put the club back on its rightful pedestal. The Championship is absolutely our goal, but I don't know anyone who invests in English football who doesn't have the aspiration to get to the Premier League.“
Nothing about ‘this season’. |
Nothing about very much — not sure whose argument that helps. | |
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| I know I'm in a minority..... on 14:37 - Oct 4 with 1107 views | ElderGrizzly |
| I know I'm in a minority..... on 14:35 - Oct 4 by blueysbackside |
Brett Johnson:
He added: "We want to put the club back on its rightful pedestal. The Championship is absolutely our goal, but I don't know anyone who invests in English football who doesn't have the aspiration to get to the Premier League.“
Nothing about ‘this season’. |
His words were carefully chosen and none of them have uttered a word since a ball was kicked. Which is fairly telling.
Everything about the investment, the 6 very expensive short-term loans etc point to the goal being promotion this season.
You don't invest at that level and then say "ah, 12th will do".
I agree if we got to the playoffs, showing a real bond and progress in play etc Cook might get another season, but if we keep bobbing along in mid-table Cook is gone. | | | |
| I know I'm in a minority..... on 14:39 - Oct 4 with 1092 views | blueysbackside |
| I know I'm in a minority..... on 14:36 - Oct 4 by SomethingBlue |
Nothing about very much — not sure whose argument that helps. |
All I asked was for some direct quotes that our owners wanted promotion THIS season. | | | |
| I know I'm in a minority..... on 14:50 - Oct 4 with 1071 views | legoman |
Just need to keep Celina away from no 10 spot, he needs to be out wide. | |
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| I know I'm in a minority..... on 14:51 - Oct 4 with 1074 views | itfcjoe |
You couldn't have a word with someone at the EFL, maybe Rick Parry, and see if they will agree to restart the season could you? |  |
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| I know I'm in a minority..... on 14:55 - Oct 4 with 1055 views | Herbivore |
| I know I'm in a minority..... on 14:24 - Oct 4 by blueysbackside |
I think Bonne would stay. As for the others, if we don’t go up (and I don’t think we will) this season), we could well see a similar clear out next summer along the lines of the one we just had. To say players will ‘just go’ is nonsense |
So we have a clear out again this summer and this time next year fans like yourself will be writing off a fourth season in League 1 as another transitional season. You're all over the shop, petal. | |
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| I know I'm in a minority..... on 14:55 - Oct 4 with 1055 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| I know I'm in a minority..... on 13:57 - Oct 4 by blueysbackside |
Since you ask, Bonne and Coulson. Barry will be back at Villa v soon. |
If Bonne keeps up this form he might not even be here past January. I’d certainly think it’s unlikely he’d be here next season if we don’t go up - being a local lad would help but his price will be increasing by the week and there will likely be other suitors - if QPR even want to sell him
Coulsen I guess is possible, but hardly likely. Even if that did happen though it would hardly debunk the point being made though would it? We certainly haven’t splashed out on the likes of Celina to finish mid table in League One |  |
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| I know I'm in a minority..... on 14:55 - Oct 4 with 1052 views | legoman |
| I know I'm in a minority..... on 14:37 - Oct 4 by ElderGrizzly |
His words were carefully chosen and none of them have uttered a word since a ball was kicked. Which is fairly telling.
Everything about the investment, the 6 very expensive short-term loans etc point to the goal being promotion this season.
You don't invest at that level and then say "ah, 12th will do".
I agree if we got to the playoffs, showing a real bond and progress in play etc Cook might get another season, but if we keep bobbing along in mid-table Cook is gone. |
The owners and players really rate Cooky as do I from what I have observed. Great times ahead. | |
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| I know I'm in a minority..... on 14:56 - Oct 4 with 1049 views | Herbivore |
| I know I'm in a minority..... on 14:35 - Oct 4 by blueysbackside |
Brett Johnson:
He added: "We want to put the club back on its rightful pedestal. The Championship is absolutely our goal, but I don't know anyone who invests in English football who doesn't have the aspiration to get to the Premier League.“
Nothing about ‘this season’. |
Nothing about being in League 1 either. | |
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| I know I'm in a minority..... on 14:56 - Oct 4 with 1045 views | ElderGrizzly |
| I know I'm in a minority..... on 14:55 - Oct 4 by legoman |
The owners and players really rate Cooky as do I from what I have observed. Great times ahead. |
Can I have whatever you are on please? :) | | | |
| I know I'm in a minority..... on 14:57 - Oct 4 with 1044 views | Herbivore |
| I know I'm in a minority..... on 14:55 - Oct 4 by legoman |
The owners and players really rate Cooky as do I from what I have observed. Great times ahead. |
Obvious troll is obvious. | |
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| I know I'm in a minority..... on 14:58 - Oct 4 with 1042 views | blueysbackside |
| I know I'm in a minority..... on 14:37 - Oct 4 by ElderGrizzly |
His words were carefully chosen and none of them have uttered a word since a ball was kicked. Which is fairly telling.
Everything about the investment, the 6 very expensive short-term loans etc point to the goal being promotion this season.
You don't invest at that level and then say "ah, 12th will do".
I agree if we got to the playoffs, showing a real bond and progress in play etc Cook might get another season, but if we keep bobbing along in mid-table Cook is gone. |
It is fairly telling….of an ownership who are now coming to terms with the probability that direct promotion isn’t happening this season. Just interested, Grizzly….Let’s turn that on its head. So would you say the signings were told promotion is the aim this season and if we don’t go up you can leave (and something like that is in their contracts)? And do you think they all decided to sign knowing they would leave if we didn’t go up? Pretty crap buying strategy, no? | | | |
| I know I'm in a minority..... on 15:00 - Oct 4 with 1035 views | itfcjoe |
| I know I'm in a minority..... on 14:32 - Oct 4 by SomethingBlue |
Exactly, that is what people need to realise — this is not a squad built to be carefully nurtured in the hope it storms the league in two years' time. It has to happen now, which is why it has to *really* start happening in the next four weeks. [Post edited 4 Oct 2021 14:36]
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The conversations some are willing to have about building for the future, squad gelling, etc are ones we should be having in the Championship not in League 1. There is only 1 plan for L1 and that is to get out of it at the earliest possible opportunity.
If Cook can't deliver that quickly he'll be moved on - he won't be sat here at Xmas with us in the bottom half - he'll be long gone. | |
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| I know I'm in a minority..... on 15:01 - Oct 4 with 1027 views | blueysbackside |
| I know I'm in a minority..... on 14:56 - Oct 4 by Herbivore |
Nothing about being in League 1 either. |
Correct. I wasn’t the one saying the owners had said promotion is the aim this season. But, you know, pick and choose what you respond to and all that. Being feisty as usual, eh?! | | | |
| I know I'm in a minority..... on 15:01 - Oct 4 with 1025 views | legoman |
| I know I'm in a minority..... on 14:57 - Oct 4 by Herbivore |
Obvious troll is obvious. |
Been supporting town since 1963 I am just not a boo sheep. | |
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