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How it works: Levelling Up. 12:32 - Nov 18 with 1718 viewsBlueBadger

Turns out, 'levelling up' means 'still making cuts. but claiming it makes things better'.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59334043
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I'm one of the people who was blamed for getting Paul Cook sacked. PM for the full post.
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How it works: Levelling Up. on 15:42 - Nov 18 with 454 viewstractordownsouth

How it works: Levelling Up. on 13:29 - Nov 18 by Swansea_Blue

Remember when earlier this year they used HS2 as justification to cut Transport for the North’s 2021/2022 budget by 40%? Arf. https://www.railway-technology.com/news/tfn-budget-cuts-receive-criticism-uk-rai

If anyone believes this levelling up nonsense is a genuine attempt to redress inequalities across the UK, they're 2 sarnies short of a picnic.

A cross cross-party public accounts committee enquiry found the previous Towns Fund to be politically biased, favouring Tory councils. The Levelling Up and Community renewal funds recently announced have been similarly criticised.

Meanwhile places like Cornwall, West Wales and the Valleys and ?South Yorkshire are losing access to £100s of millions between them that they would have got through EU Structural Funds. I think Wales alone lost out on over £300m this year.


Cornwall has been given £3m to replace the £60m EU funding. This is despite the MPs here (5 of 6 at those in office at the time voted leave) insisting the Tories would match the money.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-55359891

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How it works: Levelling Up. on 15:44 - Nov 18 with 439 viewswkj

How it works: Levelling Up. on 12:35 - Nov 18 by footers

If you take away people's money and access to services it makes them work harder.

Wonder if the same could be said of MPs and Lords? One to ponder.


I think I need to make another Johnson diagram.

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How it works: Levelling Up. on 15:50 - Nov 18 with 422 viewsDarth_Koont

How it works: Levelling Up. on 15:38 - Nov 18 by Cotty

I blame the people on the left amplifying the right wing media trope that everything is the fault of the Labour party.


Fill your boots.

I blame low standards in the public debate, almost exclusively populated by centrist duds and the right-wing loons. The left wing aren’t there last time I checked.

If they were then maybe we’d be talking about how the underlying socio-economics of Blairism and “Johnsonism”are both flawed and regressive. And where we should be a lot better now that we know better.

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How it works: Levelling Up. on 15:53 - Nov 18 with 412 viewsCotty

How it works: Levelling Up. on 15:50 - Nov 18 by Darth_Koont

Fill your boots.

I blame low standards in the public debate, almost exclusively populated by centrist duds and the right-wing loons. The left wing aren’t there last time I checked.

If they were then maybe we’d be talking about how the underlying socio-economics of Blairism and “Johnsonism”are both flawed and regressive. And where we should be a lot better now that we know better.


This approach of idealistic absolutism will only result in further Tory governments.
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How it works: Levelling Up. on 15:57 - Nov 18 with 402 viewsDarth_Koont

How it works: Levelling Up. on 15:53 - Nov 18 by Cotty

This approach of idealistic absolutism will only result in further Tory governments.


Yeah, that’s exactly what it is.

Keep sticking your head in the sand about how successful this brand of centre-right politics has been over the past few decades. “More of the same” is as idealistic and narrow as it gets.

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How it works: Levelling Up. on 15:58 - Nov 18 with 390 viewsCotty

How it works: Levelling Up. on 15:57 - Nov 18 by Darth_Koont

Yeah, that’s exactly what it is.

Keep sticking your head in the sand about how successful this brand of centre-right politics has been over the past few decades. “More of the same” is as idealistic and narrow as it gets.


Erm, I'm probably as left wing as you are. I'm going on strike 1-3 December and everything!
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How it works: Levelling Up. on 16:04 - Nov 18 with 375 viewsDarth_Koont

How it works: Levelling Up. on 15:58 - Nov 18 by Cotty

Erm, I'm probably as left wing as you are. I'm going on strike 1-3 December and everything!


Good for you! You’ve got to stand up for what you believe in.

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How it works: Levelling Up. on 16:05 - Nov 18 with 369 viewsCotty

How it works: Levelling Up. on 16:04 - Nov 18 by Darth_Koont

Good for you! You’ve got to stand up for what you believe in.


Indeed. But often the best approach is not to demand the exact thing you want, but to do everything you can to get the lying corrupt bigots out of power at any cost. I mean it's game theory really.
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How it works: Levelling Up. on 16:18 - Nov 18 with 358 viewsDarth_Koont

How it works: Levelling Up. on 16:05 - Nov 18 by Cotty

Indeed. But often the best approach is not to demand the exact thing you want, but to do everything you can to get the lying corrupt bigots out of power at any cost. I mean it's game theory really.


Yeah. Only problem is that I think the Labour right are awful too. Lying, corrupt and ultimately dangerous. They just want to get paid too.

I want Scotland out if they’re the alternative. And I’ll push for the Greens in the UK in the hope that their polling can shift policy even for purely cynical, electoral reasons.

But I’m not going to make a Hurst vs. Lambert decision.

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How it works: Levelling Up. on 16:33 - Nov 18 with 324 viewsHerbivore

How it works: Levelling Up. on 16:18 - Nov 18 by Darth_Koont

Yeah. Only problem is that I think the Labour right are awful too. Lying, corrupt and ultimately dangerous. They just want to get paid too.

I want Scotland out if they’re the alternative. And I’ll push for the Greens in the UK in the hope that their polling can shift policy even for purely cynical, electoral reasons.

But I’m not going to make a Hurst vs. Lambert decision.


It's odd then that there aren't more Labour MPs getting paid to lobby for private interests, if that is what their desire is. Most Labour MPs with second jobs are advising the third sector or doing paid work to maintain professional registration. Compare that to outside work undertaken by the Tories and there's quite a contrast to be observed: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/nov/16/mps-who-could-be-affected-by-bo

I'm interested too in this Labour corruption, can you offer some examples of what you mean by this? They don't seem to be funnelling public money to their mates as far as I can tell.

Don't get me wrong, Labour aren't exactly inspiring right now. But your view that they are basically the same as the Tories and worthy of, from you at least, more criticism as a result doesn't stand up to much scrutiny.

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How it works: Levelling Up. on 17:03 - Nov 18 with 299 viewsCotty

How it works: Levelling Up. on 16:18 - Nov 18 by Darth_Koont

Yeah. Only problem is that I think the Labour right are awful too. Lying, corrupt and ultimately dangerous. They just want to get paid too.

I want Scotland out if they’re the alternative. And I’ll push for the Greens in the UK in the hope that their polling can shift policy even for purely cynical, electoral reasons.

But I’m not going to make a Hurst vs. Lambert decision.


I mostly vote green whenever a vote for Labour doesn't have a good chance of deposing a Tory. When the system is stacked against you, you have to play smart.
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How it works: Levelling Up. on 17:28 - Nov 18 with 289 viewschicoazul

How it works: Levelling Up. on 13:47 - Nov 18 by BlueBadger

This is possibly the most elaborate 'yes, but Labour' yet.


If you don’t think Keith Stammer is terrified of being called a socialist by the papers then you’re paying even less attention than you normally seem to be.

In the spirit of reconciliation and happiness at the end of the Banter Era (RIP) and as a result of promotion I have cleared out my ignore list. Look forwards to reading your posts!
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How it works: Levelling Up. on 17:40 - Nov 18 with 285 viewsHerbivore

How it works: Levelling Up. on 17:28 - Nov 18 by chicoazul

If you don’t think Keith Stammer is terrified of being called a socialist by the papers then you’re paying even less attention than you normally seem to be.


Don't do the whole Keith thing, it's fully cringeworthy.

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