| Please read this account of price inflation 14:52 - Jan 21 with 7200 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
For the poorest in society.
It will take you 3 or 4 minutes to read the whole thread (not replies from others) but the big reveal comes in the middle.
If you, like me, have noticed a few things getting more expensive but can cope, this explains why, and where the price rises have been focused:
As Jack says, the majority of members of the media come from very similar backgrounds, and wouldn't have a clue that this is the story that they should be reporting, because they haven't noticed. |  | | |  |
| Please read this account of price inflation on 19:26 - Jan 21 with 2958 views | footers |
| Please read this account of price inflation on 19:21 - Jan 21 by jaykay |
also the latest I phone and loads of expensive tattoos  |
They probably deserve to be poor because the mother didn't work hard enough, to be fair.
Unlike multiple failure 'boris' Johnson, who is now fit for the top job in the country apparently! Huzzah. |  |
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| Please read this account of price inflation on 19:35 - Jan 21 with 2936 views | XYZ |
| Please read this account of price inflation on 18:53 - Jan 21 by ArnoldMoorhen |
Sometimes I'm not sure which will win the battle between sadness and anger in me at the state of things and the blindness of so many to our slide towards a post-democratic future.
I'm kind of paralysed and the only thing I seem able to do is post about it on here or on Facebook.
Why can't people see what is going on? |
That's the tactic - wear you down until you just accept it.
There good guys out there - Byline Times - Open Democracy - the Good Law Project - fighting for democracy, or at least the UK's version of it.
Then you get the "they're all as bad as each other" and "it's always been like this" crew (visible in this thread, of course) - happily looking to score internet points whilst kids in the UK go hungry and cold. | | | |
| Please read this account of price inflation on 19:56 - Jan 21 with 2898 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Please read this account of price inflation on 19:35 - Jan 21 by XYZ |
That's the tactic - wear you down until you just accept it.
There good guys out there - Byline Times - Open Democracy - the Good Law Project - fighting for democracy, or at least the UK's version of it.
Then you get the "they're all as bad as each other" and "it's always been like this" crew (visible in this thread, of course) - happily looking to score internet points whilst kids in the UK go hungry and cold. |
If you had lived in the North during and after the miner's strike you would know this to be true...."it's always been like this." |  |
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| Please read this account of price inflation on 21:02 - Jan 21 with 2861 views | Vaughan8 |
I know I'm just picking one point out, but he is saying rice is now £1. Its not. Most places have their 45-50p 1kg bag of rice still
I know its a bit of a pain but if you shop around, you can get things for a lot less as different places have different offers. | | | |
| Please read this account of price inflation on 21:19 - Jan 21 with 2837 views | jeera |
| Please read this account of price inflation on 21:02 - Jan 21 by Vaughan8 |
I know I'm just picking one point out, but he is saying rice is now £1. Its not. Most places have their 45-50p 1kg bag of rice still
I know its a bit of a pain but if you shop around, you can get things for a lot less as different places have different offers. |
Price rises have a way of catching up though. Once the trend is set or supplies vs demand have caught up.
I have noticed some bits that have been regular additions to my weekly shop have increased significantly. Leaps of 25% difference and more on some items.
Some items seem to have disappeared completely. |  |
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| Please read this account of price inflation on 21:20 - Jan 21 with 2830 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Please read this account of price inflation on 15:32 - Jan 21 by footers |
Was in the local shop just before Christmas and two young lads went to the till with a pack of spaghetti and tin of chopped toms. Turns out the money their mum had given them was no longer enough.
Two things:
Why wouldn't the shopkeeper just forgive the pennies in difference?
What kind of country are we living in when a family of three (or more possibly) can't afford a couple of quid for dinner?
Of course I told them not to put the items back and to get some cheese and chocolate etc on me and keep the money. But it's fcking depressing that these things are happening and without charity will keep happening.
But of course I'm sure the mum's a smoker, drinker, has the latest Sky package and extra wide TV, blah, blah, blah. For a nominally Christian country we have lost our way. |
You, Footers, are a true gent. When I read this, I got some dust in my eye. Well done for really practising what you preach. |  |
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| Please read this account of price inflation on 21:32 - Jan 21 with 2810 views | XYZ |
| Please read this account of price inflation on 21:02 - Jan 21 by Vaughan8 |
I know I'm just picking one point out, but he is saying rice is now £1. Its not. Most places have their 45-50p 1kg bag of rice still
I know its a bit of a pain but if you shop around, you can get things for a lot less as different places have different offers. |
Jack is a woman. She, I believe, qualifies her comments to what's available at her local Asda. | | | |
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| Please read this account of price inflation on 21:58 - Jan 21 with 2788 views | Vaughan8 |
| Please read this account of price inflation on 21:32 - Jan 21 by XYZ |
Jack is a woman. She, I believe, qualifies her comments to what's available at her local Asda. |
I suppose they're all different. My one definitely has the "smart price" rice or whatever it is called.
What I don't like is the online shops don't always have the cheap options. | | | |
| Please read this account of price inflation on 22:49 - Jan 21 with 2740 views | J2BLUE |
| Please read this account of price inflation on 21:02 - Jan 21 by Vaughan8 |
I know I'm just picking one point out, but he is saying rice is now £1. Its not. Most places have their 45-50p 1kg bag of rice still
I know its a bit of a pain but if you shop around, you can get things for a lot less as different places have different offers. |
If someone is worrying about food prices to the extent they need to shop around then they probably can't afford the travel costs of shopping around. |  |
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| Please read this account of price inflation on 22:57 - Jan 21 with 2724 views | HARRY10 |
| Please read this account of price inflation on 19:09 - Jan 21 by jeera |
Quick example.
Chap I used to be pally with, (he was my go-to mechanic for years), posted one of those silly pro-Brexit lists on FB a year or two back. You know the type, listing stuff like how we'd be forced into having the Euro soon, something about the upcoming Schengen agreement, that sort of thing.
I addressed the list one item at a time and mentioned how the Schengen agreement was signed years ago and that the UK isn't part of it etc.
He replied with "Yawn".
So just not interested then, not at all. Posted a pack of lies that suited his mind-set and that would do. That's your answer. People like that who don't care about facts or other people or indeed anything outside of their own self-centred needs. |
But you must not refer to them as being thick, even though they have a closed mind which will not accept any reasoned argument.
Instead, falling back on some bleat of 'master knows best' and 'project fear'. Which usually masks the fact what they are about is little more than xenophobia, especially those with brown skin.
So they happily exchange the shyte you mention, but will not listen to any rational reply as it strips back their argument to what it is.
They are ripe for having their fears and ignorance exploited by the likes of Johnson, Fartrage and 'my little fascist'. All three knowing how profitable for them it is - and how quickly they will dump them once they are no longer needed.
Useful idiots, I think is the term | | | |
| Please read this account of price inflation on 08:09 - Jan 23 with 2541 views | solomon |
| Please read this account of price inflation on 19:11 - Jan 21 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Don't disagree but this disenfranchisement has been going on for decades, certainly my entire lifetime. |
And sadly, for many generations before too. |  | | |
| Please read this account of price inflation on 09:42 - Jan 23 with 2505 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Please read this account of price inflation on 21:02 - Jan 21 by Vaughan8 |
I know I'm just picking one point out, but he is saying rice is now £1. Its not. Most places have their 45-50p 1kg bag of rice still
I know its a bit of a pain but if you shop around, you can get things for a lot less as different places have different offers. |
Supermarkets do online, but whether people can people get them in their accessible local store is another matter. She’s pretty fastidious about keeping records of prices. And she’s launched an alternative price index this weekend in the Guardian, so I imagine there’ll be more info in there on how these prices have been put together. |  |
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| Please read this account of price inflation on 16:27 - Jan 23 with 2435 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| Please read this account of price inflation on 21:02 - Jan 21 by Vaughan8 |
I know I'm just picking one point out, but he is saying rice is now £1. Its not. Most places have their 45-50p 1kg bag of rice still
I know its a bit of a pain but if you shop around, you can get things for a lot less as different places have different offers. |
I say this respectfully, but you have completely missed the point.
People who live in outer urban sink estates don't get to shop around. There aren't loads of supermarkets fighting for their custom. A lot of those kinds of estates may have a Spar type shop, and they don't have loss leader offers on the staples, and will charge a lot more for milk or sliced bread than Tesco or Morrisons.
People at the bottom don't have cars. They can't buy the 5kg bags of stuff because it only costs twice as much as the 1kg bag, they buy what they can carry back. Which means they have to go shopping more often, walking each way.
I can choose to buy a pack of 4 tins of beans (as I did last week) instead of the 1 I needed, because it worked out about 2 and a half times more expensive than for 1. I saved money long term because I pushed the trolley out to the car and put the bags in the boot. Then I put the 4 tins in cupboards to store them, because I have storage space in my house.
If you don't have a car and don't have storage, let alone the extra cash to make strategic long-term purchases, then shopping around and bulk buying are not options. | | | |
| Please read this account of price inflation on 17:10 - Jan 23 with 2407 views | HARRY10 |
| Please read this account of price inflation on 16:27 - Jan 23 by ArnoldMoorhen |
I say this respectfully, but you have completely missed the point.
People who live in outer urban sink estates don't get to shop around. There aren't loads of supermarkets fighting for their custom. A lot of those kinds of estates may have a Spar type shop, and they don't have loss leader offers on the staples, and will charge a lot more for milk or sliced bread than Tesco or Morrisons.
People at the bottom don't have cars. They can't buy the 5kg bags of stuff because it only costs twice as much as the 1kg bag, they buy what they can carry back. Which means they have to go shopping more often, walking each way.
I can choose to buy a pack of 4 tins of beans (as I did last week) instead of the 1 I needed, because it worked out about 2 and a half times more expensive than for 1. I saved money long term because I pushed the trolley out to the car and put the bags in the boot. Then I put the 4 tins in cupboards to store them, because I have storage space in my house.
If you don't have a car and don't have storage, let alone the extra cash to make strategic long-term purchases, then shopping around and bulk buying are not options. |
A welcome breath of reality | | | |
| Please read this account of price inflation on 20:51 - Jan 23 with 2365 views | Plums |
This piece by Jack is an absolute eye-opener. I recounted the story to my Tory voting, Times reading in laws today and they were completely unaware of the scale of rises for the poorest in society as was I until this piece the other day. The more these issues are raised by us all, the harder it is going to be for politicians to ignore them. |  |
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| Please read this account of price inflation on 20:58 - Jan 23 with 2353 views | jeera |
| Please read this account of price inflation on 20:51 - Jan 23 by Plums |
This piece by Jack is an absolute eye-opener. I recounted the story to my Tory voting, Times reading in laws today and they were completely unaware of the scale of rises for the poorest in society as was I until this piece the other day. The more these issues are raised by us all, the harder it is going to be for politicians to ignore them. |
Johnson showed just how detached they are from that reality with his comments regarding Warm Home Discount the other week.
How can anyone, let alone those in charge of the country, confuse a £140 one-off yearly payment with a weekly allowance of the same amount?
He honestly thought some of the most vulnerable people in society receive an extra £140 per week for crying out loud. Like it's nothing. | |
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| Please read this account of price inflation on 22:06 - Jan 23 with 2313 views | Vaughan8 |
| Please read this account of price inflation on 22:49 - Jan 21 by J2BLUE |
If someone is worrying about food prices to the extent they need to shop around then they probably can't afford the travel costs of shopping around. |
I'm sorry but that's the easy answer. Some places have 2,3, 4 places within walking distance of each other.
If you don't shop around then more fool you. Don't you compare prices for things? Maybe it's just me
My original point is, most supermarkets do Rice for 45-50p [Post edited 23 Jan 2022 22:07]
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| Please read this account of price inflation on 23:47 - Jan 23 with 2260 views | jeera |
| Please read this account of price inflation on 22:06 - Jan 23 by Vaughan8 |
I'm sorry but that's the easy answer. Some places have 2,3, 4 places within walking distance of each other.
If you don't shop around then more fool you. Don't you compare prices for things? Maybe it's just me
My original point is, most supermarkets do Rice for 45-50p [Post edited 23 Jan 2022 22:07]
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It's not the easy answer, it's the realistic one. You seem to be assuming everyone lives in the same environment as you and not everyone can walk far either. People are usually worse off for a reason that's not of their choice.
You really don't seem to be considering much other than you've seen a cheap bag of rice on a supermarket shelf.
And most families can't live on some cheap rice alone can they.
You're ok with poorest in society not having reasonable access to the same goods as those who are better off maybe. | |
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| Please read this account of price inflation on 03:05 - Jan 24 with 2216 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| Please read this account of price inflation on 22:06 - Jan 23 by Vaughan8 |
I'm sorry but that's the easy answer. Some places have 2,3, 4 places within walking distance of each other.
If you don't shop around then more fool you. Don't you compare prices for things? Maybe it's just me
My original point is, most supermarkets do Rice for 45-50p [Post edited 23 Jan 2022 22:07]
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I'm guessing you live in a large town, or a city, and own a car.
Now imagine living on the poverty line in one of 50 houses in a pit village on a moor in the North East. No shop. 5 miles to the nearest village with a small shop. And you don't own a car. Are you going to pay to take multiple buses to different supermarkets so that you can shop around? No? More fool you! | | | |
| Please read this account of price inflation on 04:06 - Jan 24 with 2200 views | Parsley |
| Please read this account of price inflation on 22:06 - Jan 23 by Vaughan8 |
I'm sorry but that's the easy answer. Some places have 2,3, 4 places within walking distance of each other.
If you don't shop around then more fool you. Don't you compare prices for things? Maybe it's just me
My original point is, most supermarkets do Rice for 45-50p [Post edited 23 Jan 2022 22:07]
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and if you don't live within walking distance of a supermarket then who's the fool? |  | | |
| Please read this account of price inflation on 06:26 - Jan 24 with 2167 views | noggin |
| Please read this account of price inflation on 22:06 - Jan 23 by Vaughan8 |
I'm sorry but that's the easy answer. Some places have 2,3, 4 places within walking distance of each other.
If you don't shop around then more fool you. Don't you compare prices for things? Maybe it's just me
My original point is, most supermarkets do Rice for 45-50p [Post edited 23 Jan 2022 22:07]
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Lucky you, living within a few minutes walk of several large supermarkets. Out of interest, do you 'borrow' your trolley to get your weekly shop home? What do you do with your Tesco trolley while you pop in to Asda to buy their First Price beans?
I guess my point is, you sound like a very resourceful person. |  |
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| Please read this account of price inflation on 07:50 - Jan 24 with 2136 views | Vaughan8 |
| Please read this account of price inflation on 06:26 - Jan 24 by noggin |
Lucky you, living within a few minutes walk of several large supermarkets. Out of interest, do you 'borrow' your trolley to get your weekly shop home? What do you do with your Tesco trolley while you pop in to Asda to buy their First Price beans?
I guess my point is, you sound like a very resourceful person. |
I'm just going to leave it because numerous people are turning this into something I'm not saying, twisting words which seems to be a trend on here at the moment.
There are a lot of people with different situations. Not all people struggling can't walk or don't have arms? I'll just leave it as that.
No need for some of these replies.
You sound like a very sarcastic person. You don't know me.
I'm guessing you give to food banks on a regular basis and help out yeah?
Instead of betting a tenner on things you don't know, why don't you buy some goods and give it to a food bank? [Post edited 24 Jan 2022 7:56]
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| Please read this account of price inflation on 09:22 - Jan 24 with 2093 views | WeWereZombies |
| Please read this account of price inflation on 07:50 - Jan 24 by Vaughan8 |
I'm just going to leave it because numerous people are turning this into something I'm not saying, twisting words which seems to be a trend on here at the moment.
There are a lot of people with different situations. Not all people struggling can't walk or don't have arms? I'll just leave it as that.
No need for some of these replies.
You sound like a very sarcastic person. You don't know me.
I'm guessing you give to food banks on a regular basis and help out yeah?
Instead of betting a tenner on things you don't know, why don't you buy some goods and give it to a food bank? [Post edited 24 Jan 2022 7:56]
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I know you will think I am twisting your words but it does sound like you have not read the replies to your offending post very thoroughly. |  |
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