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A telling clip that goes some way to explaining the culture of sleaze
Private Eye journalists were invited to give evidence at a Parliamentary select committee, examining how MPs could be less corrupt (my words)
If ever there were weasel words defending that very sleaze then Bernard Jenkin MP does just that (3.50)
It appears, to him, that MPs are not warned about what they do might be corrupt so they 'unwittingly' get hired by unscrupulous lobbyists. Lambs to the slaughter, we are led to believe.
A good watch is to see how PE rips him and another MP apart
24 mins in total
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Ian Hislop, Private Eye on 16:13 - Jan 26 with 1070 views
Yes that from Jenkin was a real coffee-spitter wasn't it.
"We are born savages" so therefore something about 'it's in our nature we're going to be dishonest and need to be taught otherwise', so it's not their fault if they break the rules, it's the rules themselves and that they are not enforced stringently enough.
Or something like that.
It's just waffle from him, and spoken with such authority too.
Ian Hislop, Private Eye on 16:30 - Jan 26 by jeera
Yes that from Jenkin was a real coffee-spitter wasn't it.
"We are born savages" so therefore something about 'it's in our nature we're going to be dishonest and need to be taught otherwise', so it's not their fault if they break the rules, it's the rules themselves and that they are not enforced stringently enough.
Or something like that.
It's just waffle from him, and spoken with such authority too.
It's strange that he doesn't apply that reasoning to us oiks, who obviously being savages should be locked away for years for even the tiniest misdemeanour.....
Just one small problem; sell their houses to who, Ben? Fcking Aquaman?
Ian Hislop, Private Eye on 16:41 - Jan 26 by Ewan_Oozami
It's strange that he doesn't apply that reasoning to us oiks, who obviously being savages should be locked away for years for even the tiniest misdemeanour.....
If he had any sense, we should all be locked up until we can prove we're to be trusted.
footers KC - Prosecution Barrister - Friend to all
Ian Hislop, Private Eye on 16:30 - Jan 26 by jeera
Yes that from Jenkin was a real coffee-spitter wasn't it.
"We are born savages" so therefore something about 'it's in our nature we're going to be dishonest and need to be taught otherwise', so it's not their fault if they break the rules, it's the rules themselves and that they are not enforced stringently enough.
Or something like that.
It's just waffle from him, and spoken with such authority too.
What else could he say, other than that old bollox.
A rightie caught with his fingers in the till now blames his childhood. I wonder how the Mail will deal with that. Ignore it, as usual I expect.
It further highlights similar old bollox from those who believe that removing local accountability will sort all this stuff out. It won't. Quite the opposite in fact.
Watch the non existent uproar from his constituents in response to his thought that MPs are incapable of being honest unless regulated. From these 'freebies' being perks of the job, to them being a healthy outside income Tories seem to think that this is all OK, unless caught. As with Paterson. Who had the PM trying to clear him.
What does that tell us about the culture among some Tory MPs ? That unless closely watched they will fiddle and take 'backhanders', then blame Parliament for lack of strict regulation, and guidance. Is that what you are taught at a public school ? I think not.
how many voters will even be aware of this hearing, never mind having a cursory glance at it ? Never mind. Once we remove local accountability, and allow a handful of politicians to decide who forms our government it will all be OK, so best not concern ourselves over evidence of MPs excusing themselves being 'on the take'.
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Ian Hislop, Private Eye on 17:45 - Jan 26 with 925 views
Ian Hislop, Private Eye on 14:49 - Jan 26 by Swansea_Blue
That's the result of tribal politicisation of everything isn't it? Not helped by how social media functions reinforcing those bubbles (although it probably not the only cause). It's a cancer really that gets in the way of us addressing anything seriously. And we've got the end result in parliament now - our only populist mini-Trump trashing all the rules and conventions.
Edit - And having now read the rest of the comments they seem to backup your post quite nicely. Never miss an opportunity to stick one onto "the lefties" rather than discuss the issue.
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The idea of Ian Hislop being woke is pretty hilarious.
Ian Hislop, Private Eye on 16:30 - Jan 26 by jeera
Yes that from Jenkin was a real coffee-spitter wasn't it.
"We are born savages" so therefore something about 'it's in our nature we're going to be dishonest and need to be taught otherwise', so it's not their fault if they break the rules, it's the rules themselves and that they are not enforced stringently enough.
Or something like that.
It's just waffle from him, and spoken with such authority too.
Which is a strange viewpoint, given how opposed to business/financial regulation much of the Conservative Party is.
Ian Hislop, Private Eye on 18:56 - Jan 26 by Guthrum
Which is a strange viewpoint, given how opposed to business/financial regulation much of the Conservative Party is.
I think it is more his claiming that the fault lies with the idea of regulation. That new MPs need to be educated about the 'naughtiness' of taking 'freebies' as it might be thought that strings were attached (heaven forbid).
it was Sir Humphrey at his best, trying to explain and justify some wrong doing by a long winded explanation.
My thought is that is not the lack of moral guidance that leads these crooks astray, but fellow MPs showing them how you can 'fill your boots'.
Which leads me back to my thought that you either enter Parliament to help others, or to help yourself. These two certainly have their snouts well deep, and seem affronted that anyone should question them.
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Ian Hislop, Private Eye on 19:16 - Jan 26 with 805 views
Ian Hislop, Private Eye on 19:07 - Jan 26 by HARRY10
I think it is more his claiming that the fault lies with the idea of regulation. That new MPs need to be educated about the 'naughtiness' of taking 'freebies' as it might be thought that strings were attached (heaven forbid).
it was Sir Humphrey at his best, trying to explain and justify some wrong doing by a long winded explanation.
My thought is that is not the lack of moral guidance that leads these crooks astray, but fellow MPs showing them how you can 'fill your boots'.
Which leads me back to my thought that you either enter Parliament to help others, or to help yourself. These two certainly have their snouts well deep, and seem affronted that anyone should question them.
"That new MPs need to be educated about the 'naughtiness' of taking 'freebies' as it might be thought that strings were attached (heaven forbid)."
Sure, which is what he said, but it's clearly ridiculous, the idea that MPs should need to go on some course to teach them not to be corrupt.
"You either enter Parliament to help others, or to help yourself."
Well, exactly. which is what makes the "They're all the same" comments all the more frustrating. Something I have probably been guilty of saying myself in the past, I should add.
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