| Hypothetically speaking 10:31 - Feb 22 with 18214 views | blueasfook |
On the remote chance that labour had won the election...
I wonder what noises Comrade Corbyn would be making to the Russians over their illegal invasion of Ukraine.
He would probably side with them and wish them well. |  |
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| Hypothetically speaking on 11:56 - Feb 22 with 1052 views | jeera |
| Hypothetically speaking on 11:45 - Feb 22 by blueasfook |
Me and the millions of others who didn't vote for the commie yes. |
So what was the point of your OP?
You didn't want a discussion, its tone left no room for that.
You only wanted to bait. Pointless trolling. |  |
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| Hypothetically speaking on 12:01 - Feb 22 with 1032 views | blueasfook |
| Hypothetically speaking on 11:56 - Feb 22 by jeera |
So what was the point of your OP?
You didn't want a discussion, its tone left no room for that.
You only wanted to bait. Pointless trolling. |
Granted, but Corbyns response was entirely predictable.
I believe in this case, the west has tried its best to reason with Vlad. Any aggression over Ukraine is entirely coming from Russia. | |
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| Hypothetically speaking on 12:01 - Feb 22 with 1028 views | DanTheMan |
| Hypothetically speaking on 11:52 - Feb 22 by Darth_Koont |
It was also shockingly similar to the “reasons” for us going into Iraq, Afghanistan or bombing Libya. We don’t have much of a leg to stand on.
But of course we should try to bring sanctions. I’m talking about the militarization surrounding Ukraine on both sides that hasn’t suddenly become a thing in 2022. |
What? No it wasn't.
We weren't justifying going to war with Iraq, Afghanistan or Libya because we wanted to liberate ethnic Brits. That's absolute nonsense. I'm not even saying any of those wars were justified but the reasoning given was massively different. We also haven't annexed parts of a country under the guise of liberating it as has happened in Ukraine with Crimea. On this occasion there is really only one side at fault. |  |
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| Hypothetically speaking on 12:10 - Feb 22 with 996 views | Guthrum |
| Hypothetically speaking on 12:01 - Feb 22 by DanTheMan |
What? No it wasn't.
We weren't justifying going to war with Iraq, Afghanistan or Libya because we wanted to liberate ethnic Brits. That's absolute nonsense. I'm not even saying any of those wars were justified but the reasoning given was massively different. We also haven't annexed parts of a country under the guise of liberating it as has happened in Ukraine with Crimea. On this occasion there is really only one side at fault. |
Also, we didn't at any point suggest those states had no right to exist as independent entities, in the way Putin did about Ukraine last night. |  |
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| Hypothetically speaking on 12:13 - Feb 22 with 997 views | MattinLondon |
| Hypothetically speaking on 11:09 - Feb 22 by blueasfook |
Let's just say he'd be the Paul Cook of prime ministers |
A lot of people, not necessarily on here, dismissed Corbyn as being useless and soft whilst stating that Boris would offer strong and decisive leadership.
Most are now revising their opinion rather than admitting that they made a mistake. |  | | |
| Hypothetically speaking on 12:18 - Feb 22 with 989 views | leitrimblue |
| Hypothetically speaking on 11:45 - Feb 22 by blueasfook |
Me and the millions of others who didn't vote for the commie yes. |
Did you vote for the Nazi then? |  | | |
| Hypothetically speaking on 12:19 - Feb 22 with 974 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Hypothetically speaking on 11:36 - Feb 22 by Darth_Koont |
You don’t seem to be able to entertain the idea that Putin, China etc are wrong but so are we too frequently.
We are also pretty committed to protecting and extending our spheres of influence at the expense of ordinary people’s lives. And our hypocritical alliances with Saudi Arabia, Israel or whatever regime is favourable to us around the world does us zero credit.
How do you rate the success/failure of our interventions around the world over the past couple of decades? [Post edited 22 Feb 2022 11:38]
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Fcuk me. You have Israel Tourette’s don’t you? |  |
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| Hypothetically speaking on 12:19 - Feb 22 with 988 views | leitrimblue |
| Hypothetically speaking on 11:51 - Feb 22 by blueasfook |
I think it's testimony to how unpalatable to the electorate Jeremy Corbyn was that he was comprehensively beaten by Boris Johnson.
I'd have left the country and gone into exile. |
Nowhere in Europe I'm guessing? | | | |
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| Hypothetically speaking on 12:21 - Feb 22 with 978 views | MattinLondon |
| Hypothetically speaking on 12:18 - Feb 22 by leitrimblue |
Did you vote for the Nazi then? |
There’s no need to have said Nazi……incompetent, childish, selfish, casually racist, casually sexist and misogynistic, cheating, dishonest imbecile would have been sufficient.
Edit. Labelling someone a Nazi is a lazy slur. [Post edited 22 Feb 2022 12:23]
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| Hypothetically speaking on 12:27 - Feb 22 with 959 views | galacticoblue |
Oooh you’ve done it now, - a 6 page thread is my bet. |  | | |
| Hypothetically speaking on 12:29 - Feb 22 with 955 views | leitrimblue |
| Hypothetically speaking on 12:21 - Feb 22 by MattinLondon |
There’s no need to have said Nazi……incompetent, childish, selfish, casually racist, casually sexist and misogynistic, cheating, dishonest imbecile would have been sufficient.
Edit. Labelling someone a Nazi is a lazy slur. [Post edited 22 Feb 2022 12:23]
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Just thought it went well with commie. Though I am possibly the laziest person you may ever meet so... | | | |
| Hypothetically speaking on 12:33 - Feb 22 with 933 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Hypothetically speaking on 12:13 - Feb 22 by MattinLondon |
A lot of people, not necessarily on here, dismissed Corbyn as being useless and soft whilst stating that Boris would offer strong and decisive leadership.
Most are now revising their opinion rather than admitting that they made a mistake. |
One was a racist implement. The other was an incompetent racist.
Some of us refused to vote for either of them. | |
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| Hypothetically speaking on 12:34 - Feb 22 with 946 views | MattinLondon |
| Hypothetically speaking on 12:29 - Feb 22 by leitrimblue |
Just thought it went well with commie. Though I am possibly the laziest person you may ever meet so... |
It did go well and I see what you were doing.
But, the PM is quite clearly a lot of things (all bad) but he’s isn’t a Nazi…quite a few in the Tory party probably fit that description though. | | | |
| Hypothetically speaking on 12:35 - Feb 22 with 939 views | MattinLondon |
| Hypothetically speaking on 12:33 - Feb 22 by GlasgowBlue |
One was a racist implement. The other was an incompetent racist.
Some of us refused to vote for either of them. |
Well done you.
Pity you high-fived both sets of racists when you voted for Brexit. | | | |
| Hypothetically speaking on 12:37 - Feb 22 with 920 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Hypothetically speaking on 12:35 - Feb 22 by MattinLondon |
Well done you.
Pity you high-fived both sets of racists when you voted for Brexit. |
You stupid boy. | |
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| Hypothetically speaking on 12:39 - Feb 22 with 932 views | MattinLondon |
| Hypothetically speaking on 12:37 - Feb 22 by GlasgowBlue |
You stupid boy. |
If you’re going to say that please go to the effort and add in the gif as well.
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| Hypothetically speaking on 12:41 - Feb 22 with 933 views | BlueNomad |
Why do people still associate Russia with communism? The country has been the Wild West for thirty years now. |  | | |
| Hypothetically speaking on 12:45 - Feb 22 with 911 views | noggin |
| Hypothetically speaking on 12:01 - Feb 22 by blueasfook |
Granted, but Corbyns response was entirely predictable.
I believe in this case, the west has tried its best to reason with Vlad. Any aggression over Ukraine is entirely coming from Russia. |
How would you feel about British troops defending Ukraine and coming home in body bags? |  |
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| Hypothetically speaking on 13:14 - Feb 22 with 852 views | BlueNomad |
| Hypothetically speaking on 11:21 - Feb 22 by blueasfook |
These people never progressed beyond Student Union politics did they?
they have no idea of how grown up politics works |
I will start by saying that I think the UK's stance over this is correct, and I hope that our realistic intentions to use sanctions have a damaging effect on Russia.
The Russian perspective needs to be considered. The country is paranoid about external threat; given that it was invaded twice in the twentieth century and suffered more than any other country that is understandable. In particular the threat of US nuclear weapons being placed on their borders is worrying to them.
The Soviet Union, for all intents and purposes, was a single nation. It was split in fifteen different ways in 1992 which was massive and something people who had grown up in the USSR must have found very difficult, both practically and emotionally. Ethnic Russians live in many of those states as a minority. They are, in general, very proud of the Motherland.
I condemn Putin's stance and current actions but the issue is far more complex than many on both sides of the argument. Grown up politics reflects deeply held aspirations and fears; British voters should be more aware of that than most given events here over the past few years. [Post edited 22 Feb 2022 13:15]
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| Hypothetically speaking on 13:24 - Feb 22 with 828 views | Guthrum |
| Hypothetically speaking on 12:41 - Feb 22 by BlueNomad |
Why do people still associate Russia with communism? The country has been the Wild West for thirty years now. |
Indeed. Altho Putin seems keen on a return to early-USSR style leadership. | |
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| Hypothetically speaking on 13:27 - Feb 22 with 817 views | Darth_Koont |
| Hypothetically speaking on 12:33 - Feb 22 by GlasgowBlue |
One was a racist implement. The other was an incompetent racist.
Some of us refused to vote for either of them. |
No. Corbyn really wasn’t.
If you and others are going to wring your hands and clutch your pearls at the disingenuous slur against Starmer the other day, you really need to show that you have got objective and consistent standards when it comes to politicians you don’t like and have been shamelessly lying about for years. |  |
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| Hypothetically speaking on 13:31 - Feb 22 with 817 views | Manchesterblue |
I think we can safely say Putin wouldn't be doing this if Trump was still in,
Biden cant even keep awake. |  |
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| Hypothetically speaking on 13:32 - Feb 22 with 801 views | Darth_Koont |
| Hypothetically speaking on 12:01 - Feb 22 by DanTheMan |
What? No it wasn't.
We weren't justifying going to war with Iraq, Afghanistan or Libya because we wanted to liberate ethnic Brits. That's absolute nonsense. I'm not even saying any of those wars were justified but the reasoning given was massively different. We also haven't annexed parts of a country under the guise of liberating it as has happened in Ukraine with Crimea. On this occasion there is really only one side at fault. |
It wasn’t for “humanitarian reasons” just like Putin’s silly claim?
We don’t walk the walk. And it’s noticeable that our response has been more around militarisation in the name of “defence” than actual peace-keeping and negotiation.
We have to be a lot better or we enable even worse actors like Putin to justify their actions on far too similar grounds. Just because our interventions and invasions are far away and against brown people doesn’t actually make them “better”. | |
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| Hypothetically speaking on 13:32 - Feb 22 with 800 views | blueasfook |
| Hypothetically speaking on 11:26 - Feb 22 by noggin |
Twas you that brought up Corbyn's anti war stance as being a negative. |
Err... no. Corbyn's default stance (as it is in just about everything) is to blame the West for what's going on in Ukraine.
If we had a Corbyn around in the 1930s, he would have been blaming Britain for the military build up in Germany. It's all rather tedious. It's a good job he has no real say in anything. | |
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| Hypothetically speaking on 13:33 - Feb 22 with 801 views | blueasfook |
| Hypothetically speaking on 13:31 - Feb 22 by Manchesterblue |
I think we can safely say Putin wouldn't be doing this if Trump was still in,
Biden cant even keep awake. |
I did think that yesterday. He did seem to get along with old Don.
Don would have just given him what he wanted though and probably drew NATO back. | |
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