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Why are we still eating meat all things considered? 13:11 - Mar 13 with 9748 viewsmonytowbray

I don’t want to go into another lockdown because people can’t face facts or get over the concept their taste buds justify death, suffering and a dead planet.

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Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 19:16 - Mar 13 with 1070 viewsZXBlue

Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 19:01 - Mar 13 by monytowbray

You seem to have laws and morals confused.

In the 1800s you’d have defended freeing slaves as theft.

Corporations engage in wage theft daily in favour of board profit, whilst dodging their duty to build a better society for their customers/staff though tax avoidance. Then that shortfall gets burdened on you to pay though inflation and higher taxes. They influence this system by lobbying and donating politically. We are being conned. How can you steal something from a thief if their gains were ill-gotten in the first place?

I can promise you now if you went into business with me or business with Tesco the latter will be the one that stabs you in the back - it is a feature and not a bug of getting a business to such an unethical scale in size.

I say what I mean and I act by my words. I probably limit myself to things you do daily that are legal yet unethical.
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I am now intrigued to know what your moral code is based on.
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Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 19:16 - Mar 13 with 1069 viewsmonytowbray

Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 19:12 - Mar 13 by PassionNotAnger

No, I think you lack morals for willingly failing to pay for a service that is performing as intended. It’s theft, no ifs or buts.

If you don’t agree with how those providing the service are doing things don’t use it.


And I think people lack morals for choosing to buy goods from Amazon, and by choosing to pay for that service you are enabling a system actively working against humanity’s best interests.

Still not sure what this has to do with the OP and meat/pandemics.

Do you really lose more sleep for billionaires losing out on the odd couple of quid than what the billionaires did/do to get/stay rich? It’s something for you to ponder, rather than reply to.
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Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 19:21 - Mar 13 with 1055 viewsmonytowbray

Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 19:16 - Mar 13 by ZXBlue

I am now intrigued to know what your moral code is based on.


Dunno, address those two posts you still haven’t replied to and maybe I’ll let you ask more questions.

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Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 19:22 - Mar 13 with 1047 viewsBury_St_Edmundson

Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 19:02 - Mar 13 by monytowbray

“I’m smarter than everyone here but I can’t prove it.”

Okay.

That meme is the most boomer Facebook thing I’ve ever seen, just needs a minion.


It's a meme, so your original insult was incorrect

"I'm smarter than everyone here but I can't prove it" - you seem to have reading difficulties
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Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 19:30 - Mar 13 with 1024 viewsZXBlue

Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 19:21 - Mar 13 by monytowbray

Dunno, address those two posts you still haven’t replied to and maybe I’ll let you ask more questions.


Embarrassing.
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Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 19:31 - Mar 13 with 1023 viewsmonytowbray

Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 19:22 - Mar 13 by Bury_St_Edmundson

It's a meme, so your original insult was incorrect

"I'm smarter than everyone here but I can't prove it" - you seem to have reading difficulties


Not really, I just tend to expect people who make statements to back them up with evidence.

Apologies on the meme, but is is a sh1t meme!

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Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 19:32 - Mar 13 with 1008 viewsmonytowbray

Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 19:30 - Mar 13 by ZXBlue

Embarrassing.


Sure thing, Swervy.

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Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 19:35 - Mar 13 with 995 viewsZXBlue

Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 19:32 - Mar 13 by monytowbray

Sure thing, Swervy.


Set out, in concise numbered paragraphs what you are claiming I have swerved.
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Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 19:39 - Mar 13 with 983 viewsJ2BLUE

Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 16:58 - Mar 13 by ZXBlue

Because it is nutritious, tasty, brightens peoples lives and because animals are not people. Next?


If aliens landed, they wouldn't be people either. Would you eat them?

Truly impaired.
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Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 19:40 - Mar 13 with 980 viewsZXBlue

Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 19:39 - Mar 13 by J2BLUE

If aliens landed, they wouldn't be people either. Would you eat them?


No idea. Are they tasty? Are they intelligent? Do they have empathy?
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Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 19:41 - Mar 13 with 975 viewsJ2BLUE

Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 19:40 - Mar 13 by ZXBlue

No idea. Are they tasty? Are they intelligent? Do they have empathy?


Pigs are intelligent. Not sure if they have empathy. Try taking their piglet away though. They have feelings.

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Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 19:43 - Mar 13 with 971 viewsmonytowbray

Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 19:35 - Mar 13 by ZXBlue

Set out, in concise numbered paragraphs what you are claiming I have swerved.


Scroll up and you’ll find two responses to you, on the original subject matter, you’ve not responded to.

You asked for evidence on animal agriculture and pandemics. I have provided this. Would you like to discuss it?

I’ve responded to your comment about animals being different as to why exactly that justifies pain and suffering. You haven’t responded.

You then ironically accused me of not reading things, so I pointed out you hadn’t read or acknowledged what I said either.

If you want to get involved in a thread or discussion, that usually involves
acknowledgement of evidence and counter points to further or establish your own view point. It’s a very simple grown up process.
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Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 19:47 - Mar 13 with 958 viewsmonytowbray

Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 19:41 - Mar 13 by J2BLUE

Pigs are intelligent. Not sure if they have empathy. Try taking their piglet away though. They have feelings.


Animals tend to lack it in a way we would describe it as we are smarter.

It’s ironic we used this enlightened advantage to be utter bast**ds.

Story of humanity really.

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Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 19:47 - Mar 13 with 953 viewsZXBlue

Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 19:43 - Mar 13 by monytowbray

Scroll up and you’ll find two responses to you, on the original subject matter, you’ve not responded to.

You asked for evidence on animal agriculture and pandemics. I have provided this. Would you like to discuss it?

I’ve responded to your comment about animals being different as to why exactly that justifies pain and suffering. You haven’t responded.

You then ironically accused me of not reading things, so I pointed out you hadn’t read or acknowledged what I said either.

If you want to get involved in a thread or discussion, that usually involves
acknowledgement of evidence and counter points to further or establish your own view point. It’s a very simple grown up process.
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You said questions. I am not scrolling up to read more of the rambling nonsense. I assume you are not willing to explain morality. Fair enough. Big issue.
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Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 19:50 - Mar 13 with 925 viewsmonytowbray

Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 19:47 - Mar 13 by ZXBlue

You said questions. I am not scrolling up to read more of the rambling nonsense. I assume you are not willing to explain morality. Fair enough. Big issue.


I would love to have a sensible dicussion around morality but apparently the simple task of reading is beyond you. One is literally a link FFS, you can click it and read someone else’s take.

So basically, you are happy to be ignorant. Do you know what the Dunning Kruger Effect is? On second thought, don’t look it up - it’d be lost on you.

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Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 19:52 - Mar 13 with 916 viewsBury_St_Edmundson

Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 19:31 - Mar 13 by monytowbray

Not really, I just tend to expect people who make statements to back them up with evidence.

Apologies on the meme, but is is a sh1t meme!


It was a meme, you claimed I didn't know what a meme was...

I fail to find you have a general grasp on this whole proof thing you talk about
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Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 20:00 - Mar 13 with 896 viewsRob88

Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 19:39 - Mar 13 by J2BLUE

If aliens landed, they wouldn't be people either. Would you eat them?


We haven’t been eating aliens for the last 2.6 millions years therefore wouldn’t have thought we would have evolved to be able to eat them.
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Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 20:02 - Mar 13 with 897 viewsmonytowbray

Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 19:52 - Mar 13 by Bury_St_Edmundson

It was a meme, you claimed I didn't know what a meme was...

I fail to find you have a general grasp on this whole proof thing you talk about


Yes, as stated I was wrong about the meme. Really not the biggest trophy in the world but I have validated this for you. As debate works.

Now, if you’d like to provide evidence for your original claim, we can do that one.

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Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 20:04 - Mar 13 with 883 viewsSwansea_Blue

Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 14:05 - Mar 13 by J2BLUE

You probably even breath out carbon dioxide.

Bastard.


Balls. I can't believe you beat me to this by hours. Well actually I can, which makes it worse.

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Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 20:09 - Mar 13 with 871 viewsSwansea_Blue

Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 18:32 - Mar 13 by monytowbray

It’s a bit like saying a logging company is justified in destroying the Amazon because sometimes I step on blades of grass.

Still nowt on the OP and pandemics though. A big thread of swerve and whatteraboutery.


Not sure you'll get a proper response, because people are defensive about the whole macho meat thing and you're gunning for anyone who dares offer a different opinion.

It's a shame, as it's a topic that deserves more consideration by people who've yet to think about it. (Not that I'm a vegan or even vegetarian, but I recognise the arguments as being valid, For health alone if nothing else. Throw in the environmental benefits and it should be a bit of a no brainer). Lifelong habits are hard to break.

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Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 20:14 - Mar 13 with 855 viewsSwansea_Blue

Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 20:00 - Mar 13 by Rob88

We haven’t been eating aliens for the last 2.6 millions years therefore wouldn’t have thought we would have evolved to be able to eat them.


There's a good chance we haven't had the time to evolve to eat masses of factory farmed animals either, given the state of people who have access those kinds of foods.

Anyway, you've not lived until you've had a deep fried martian!

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Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 20:14 - Mar 13 with 849 viewsmonytowbray

Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 20:09 - Mar 13 by Swansea_Blue

Not sure you'll get a proper response, because people are defensive about the whole macho meat thing and you're gunning for anyone who dares offer a different opinion.

It's a shame, as it's a topic that deserves more consideration by people who've yet to think about it. (Not that I'm a vegan or even vegetarian, but I recognise the arguments as being valid, For health alone if nothing else. Throw in the environmental benefits and it should be a bit of a no brainer). Lifelong habits are hard to break.


They are hard to break but some people don’t seem to see their place in the world beyond their immediate reality and dismiss their impact on wider factors.

Collective action starts with individuals. But to take action one needs to know what they are acting against (or supporting by doing nothing).

You can lead a horse to water, etc.

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Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 20:16 - Mar 13 with 842 viewsmonytowbray

Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 20:14 - Mar 13 by Swansea_Blue

There's a good chance we haven't had the time to evolve to eat masses of factory farmed animals either, given the state of people who have access those kinds of foods.

Anyway, you've not lived until you've had a deep fried martian!


So long as no footballers kick one I’m sure it’ll be fine.

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Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 20:34 - Mar 13 with 808 viewsfactual_blue

Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 19:39 - Mar 13 by J2BLUE

If aliens landed, they wouldn't be people either. Would you eat them?


I already do.

They taste just like chicken.

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Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 20:36 - Mar 13 with 796 viewsBury_St_Edmundson

Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 20:14 - Mar 13 by monytowbray

They are hard to break but some people don’t seem to see their place in the world beyond their immediate reality and dismiss their impact on wider factors.

Collective action starts with individuals. But to take action one needs to know what they are acting against (or supporting by doing nothing).

You can lead a horse to water, etc.


Isn't leading a horse to water, non-vegan?

that's not to be taken seriously btw
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