| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 20:47 - Mar 13 with 1077 views | Rob88 |
| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 20:14 - Mar 13 by Swansea_Blue |
There's a good chance we haven't had the time to evolve to eat masses of factory farmed animals either, given the state of people who have access those kinds of foods.
Anyway, you've not lived until you've had a deep fried martian! |
But that’s over population.
Does that stance make you a fan of famine and genocide, or abortion, or birth control? [Post edited 13 Mar 2022 21:04]
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| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 21:15 - Mar 13 with 1044 views | monytowbray |
| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 20:47 - Mar 13 by Rob88 |
But that’s over population.
Does that stance make you a fan of famine and genocide, or abortion, or birth control? [Post edited 13 Mar 2022 21:04]
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The world isn’t overpopulated. It’s just divided in a way where a small section get more than they need to survive, some get enough and many others are left with nothing.
Welcome to the resource war. |  |
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| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 21:32 - Mar 13 with 1018 views | Rob88 |
| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 21:15 - Mar 13 by monytowbray |
The world isn’t overpopulated. It’s just divided in a way where a small section get more than they need to survive, some get enough and many others are left with nothing.
Welcome to the resource war. |
Can you qualify that? | | | |
| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 21:52 - Mar 13 with 999 views | monytowbray |
| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 21:32 - Mar 13 by Rob88 |
Can you qualify that? |
I can.
https://sustainablereview.com/overpopulation-is-a-myth/
Veganism ties well into this I should add. 90% plus of soy goes on animal feed that produces a smaller food yield. That soy could solve world hunger, and we’d actually end up with surplus land if the world stopped eating meat as we could reduce crop production and land used for animal agrculture - not that the world is lacking in space for us to happily spread out already.
https://viva.org.uk/planet/the-issues/land-use/
Seeking endless profit and poor allocation of resources through greed will kill this planet unless we act. If we screw the land that grows crops and damage weather to the point they don’t yield, or keep draining water resources faster than they replenish, then we are f**ked.
Also, this is worth a read to further my point: https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2019/8/20/20802413/overpopulation-demographic [Post edited 13 Mar 2022 21:59]
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| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 21:58 - Mar 13 with 977 views | monytowbray |
| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 20:36 - Mar 13 by Bury_St_Edmundson |
Isn't leading a horse to water, non-vegan?
that's not to be taken seriously btw |
Depends how you led it there and how thirsty it is I’d guess! | |
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| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 22:12 - Mar 13 with 961 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 20:47 - Mar 13 by Rob88 |
But that’s over population.
Does that stance make you a fan of famine and genocide, or abortion, or birth control? [Post edited 13 Mar 2022 21:04]
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To clarify, I wasn't talking about population. I was talking about the epidemic of obesity and other lifestyle illnesses than mostly stem from our diet of too much saturated fat and protein, mostly from animals. Plus lack of exercise of course; eating too many animal products are only a contributory cause.
I'm not too keen on genocide. I was never a Phil Collins fan. [Post edited 13 Mar 2022 22:13]
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| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 09:37 - Mar 14 with 869 views | Leaky |
| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 17:20 - Mar 13 by factual_blue |
People voted leave to annoy vegans? |
No I voted leave to save the planet from the carbon footprint of Euro MP's toing and froing to Brussels for a jolly up. |  | | |
| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 09:58 - Mar 14 with 857 views | WD19 |
For the same reasons we are still reproducing.
And with similar impact. |  | | |
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| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 10:04 - Mar 14 with 842 views | Seablu |
| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 09:37 - Mar 14 by Leaky |
No I voted leave to save the planet from the carbon footprint of Euro MP's toing and froing to Brussels for a jolly up. |
That made me giggle.
Proof even tories have some sense of humour.
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| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 10:18 - Mar 14 with 829 views | itfcjoe |
Purely for me I like meat, and the dinners it provides as unpopular opinion as that is probably now.
If the meat was lab grown, I would be just as happy to eat it - but elect to go down an ignorance is bliss route with regards to meat production - even if I would prefer the industry to be much better in it's standards I don't feel I can make much of a difference and am too set in my ways. |  |
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| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 10:35 - Mar 14 with 791 views | OldFart71 |
Some seem to forget the fact that as with horse racing these animals wouldn't be there to be run or be killed if no one went racing or ate meat. Besides, if everyone went vegetarian/vegan we simply couldn't produce the amount required. We rely heavily on imports, so whilst those are proclaiming we should eat this or that some huge container ship is chugging it's way half around the World to get here. This Country produced large quantities of many varieties of apples. Many have now disappeared and we import them from Spain, South Africa and many other Countries. Which again means shipping or flying them in. Building of houses is rife, everywhere you go a house is going up. In many cases on land that could with cultivation be used to produce food. If we are to reduce global warming a bit of lateral thinking would be a good idea. Everything seems to be half hearted. Incentives to install thermal heating, insulating, solar panels, electric cars are all shallow attempts to make out something is being done. But it merely scrapes the surface. | | | |
| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 10:50 - Mar 14 with 782 views | Leaky |
| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 10:04 - Mar 14 by Seablu |
That made me giggle.
Proof even tories have some sense of humour.
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Sorry not a Tory | | | |
| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 11:52 - Mar 14 with 751 views | jonbull88 |
| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 21:52 - Mar 13 by monytowbray |
I can.
https://sustainablereview.com/overpopulation-is-a-myth/
Veganism ties well into this I should add. 90% plus of soy goes on animal feed that produces a smaller food yield. That soy could solve world hunger, and we’d actually end up with surplus land if the world stopped eating meat as we could reduce crop production and land used for animal agrculture - not that the world is lacking in space for us to happily spread out already.
https://viva.org.uk/planet/the-issues/land-use/
Seeking endless profit and poor allocation of resources through greed will kill this planet unless we act. If we screw the land that grows crops and damage weather to the point they don’t yield, or keep draining water resources faster than they replenish, then we are f**ked.
Also, this is worth a read to further my point: https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2019/8/20/20802413/overpopulation-demographic [Post edited 13 Mar 2022 21:59]
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As I’ve said in a previous conversation, it isn’t always as straight forward as saying get rid of animals and we could use x-amount less land. Ban eating meat and you’ll firstly still need to produce feed for pets and other animals that will be about. With the reduced animals about, and with the future ban of man made fertilisers we will produce up to 50% less food on land currently used. You have the big question of what you do with failed crops or crops that don’t make spec, atm these go in to you guessed it animal feed!
I believe we do all need to think about the amount of meat we eat, and that comes from a farmer who has a pig unit! However the UK does have one of the highest animal welfare levels in the world and without wanting to sound patronising people really should but British. | | | |
| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 14:10 - Mar 14 with 704 views | BiGDonnie |
Do you honestly believe that one day humans will no longer eat meat? |  |
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| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 14:21 - Mar 14 with 690 views | WD19 |
| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 21:52 - Mar 13 by monytowbray |
I can.
https://sustainablereview.com/overpopulation-is-a-myth/
Veganism ties well into this I should add. 90% plus of soy goes on animal feed that produces a smaller food yield. That soy could solve world hunger, and we’d actually end up with surplus land if the world stopped eating meat as we could reduce crop production and land used for animal agrculture - not that the world is lacking in space for us to happily spread out already.
https://viva.org.uk/planet/the-issues/land-use/
Seeking endless profit and poor allocation of resources through greed will kill this planet unless we act. If we screw the land that grows crops and damage weather to the point they don’t yield, or keep draining water resources faster than they replenish, then we are f**ked.
Also, this is worth a read to further my point: https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2019/8/20/20802413/overpopulation-demographic [Post edited 13 Mar 2022 21:59]
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People that argue that the earth can technically sustain a 9 Billion population if resources are allocated fairly are missing the point that we (are supposed to) share the planet with various other species. Its self absorbed nonsense.
Maybe Putin is just ahead of his time and is a visionary trying to save the planet via short-term nuclear Armageddon.
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| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 15:14 - Mar 14 with 646 views | MattinLondon |
| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 14:10 - Mar 14 by BiGDonnie |
Do you honestly believe that one day humans will no longer eat meat? |
One day people won’t consume meat. Meat substitute grown in labs yes, but not from an animal.
With each passing year percentage of people going vegan or vegetarian seems to be on the up-and-up. So I’m pretty confident one day people won’t be eating meat.
I am a meat eater but have found myself eating less meat. A few years ago I probably ate meat everyday but now im meat free for a few days a week. |  | | |
| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 16:35 - Mar 14 with 615 views | mutters |
| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 14:14 - Mar 13 by monytowbray |
How do you win with people who won’t look at what you point them to?
I can’t be courteous to ignorance. |
I am not sure you can too be honest. All you can do is share information, engage in a healthy and honest debate and try to present your point of view. Getting narked or hacked off IMO just drives people away.
However... coming back to this thread after a couple of days it feels very combative rather than an open forum for a fruitful conversation. There are pros and cons on both sides of the equation, people need to move to the middle, albeit temporarily for the purpose of debate, to understand people's views.
That of course rarely happens, hence the binary approach to a lot of things these days. The middle ground is no longer a place you are allowed to be! |  |
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| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 20:58 - Mar 14 with 541 views | eireblue |
| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 14:10 - Mar 14 by BiGDonnie |
Do you honestly believe that one day humans will no longer eat meat? |
Yes.
When humans are farmed by technology enhanced humanoids.
Humans could be grown for food or parts.
No need to feed human cattle with meat, parts can be grown with basic feed material, until they reach teenage years when the organs can be used and the rest of the discarded human can be used for meat and clothes. |  | | |
| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 21:00 - Mar 14 with 539 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 14:10 - Mar 14 by BiGDonnie |
Do you honestly believe that one day humans will no longer eat meat? |
We might be forced to if we can't access a dentist. |  |
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| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 21:03 - Mar 14 with 532 views | Bury_St_Edmundson |
| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 16:35 - Mar 14 by mutters |
I am not sure you can too be honest. All you can do is share information, engage in a healthy and honest debate and try to present your point of view. Getting narked or hacked off IMO just drives people away.
However... coming back to this thread after a couple of days it feels very combative rather than an open forum for a fruitful conversation. There are pros and cons on both sides of the equation, people need to move to the middle, albeit temporarily for the purpose of debate, to understand people's views.
That of course rarely happens, hence the binary approach to a lot of things these days. The middle ground is no longer a place you are allowed to be! |
There is no middle though, numbers 2-9 have been wiped off the 1-10 scale |  | | |
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