| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 13:57 - Mar 13 with 1179 views | Dubtractor |
| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 13:33 - Mar 13 by monytowbray |
There are plenty of viable dairy and meat replacements out there now though. And I say that as someone who loved cheese and hasn’t had to give it up. |
There are lots of alternatives yes, but I don't like any of them! Mrs Dub is vegan so I do try them - I can't be doing with oat milk (various versions of) other than in porridge (which sort of makes sense!). As for vegan cheeses........ As it happens I don't eat much cheese so that's not a huge impact from me.
Vegan 'meat' is definitely improving though, that I'll grant you.
I make no excuses for my personal choice, and I won't try and defend them either, I just prefer what I eat.
Probably making a bean and lentil chilli for dinner today though, so go me! |  |
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| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 13:59 - Mar 13 with 1162 views | monytowbray |
| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 13:57 - Mar 13 by solomon |
Which use fossil fuels and cause pollution which in turn contributes to climate change?
I think you’re being very selfish, get electrified and help the planet |
So you tried to get me on the car and had to move the goal posts to having a pop at, wait *checks notes* USING PUBLIC TRANSPORT.
Ffs.
Everything we do leaves a footprint. It’s about synergy with the planet. |  |
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| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 14:01 - Mar 13 with 1148 views | monytowbray |
| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 13:57 - Mar 13 by Dubtractor |
There are lots of alternatives yes, but I don't like any of them! Mrs Dub is vegan so I do try them - I can't be doing with oat milk (various versions of) other than in porridge (which sort of makes sense!). As for vegan cheeses........ As it happens I don't eat much cheese so that's not a huge impact from me.
Vegan 'meat' is definitely improving though, that I'll grant you.
I make no excuses for my personal choice, and I won't try and defend them either, I just prefer what I eat.
Probably making a bean and lentil chilli for dinner today though, so go me! |
Love a chilli. Beans for me though all the way.
I keep meaning to do a spreadsheet for new vegans to check out but forgetting. A cheese list will be on it. | |
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| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 14:01 - Mar 13 with 1138 views | textbackup |
| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 13:57 - Mar 13 by monytowbray |
Not a fan of that one, I like the thinner discs. Frys ones are good. |
aldi peri peri no chicken breasts? |  |
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| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 14:03 - Mar 13 with 1119 views | monytowbray |
| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 13:53 - Mar 13 by lowhouseblue |
or use the internet which has the same global emissions as all air traffic. |
And would anyone like to post the data that shows what this % is in emmissions vs meat (or even plant food production)?!
Sounds big on paper because you’d assume air travel is very VERY bad, until you look at the reality and data. | |
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| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 14:04 - Mar 13 with 1105 views | solomon |
| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 13:59 - Mar 13 by monytowbray |
So you tried to get me on the car and had to move the goal posts to having a pop at, wait *checks notes* USING PUBLIC TRANSPORT.
Ffs.
Everything we do leaves a footprint. It’s about synergy with the planet. |
I’m one of those arrogant holier than thou ar5e holes who drives an electric vehicle but that doesn’t make me the worlds number one environmentalist, far from it, that’s why I refrain from preaching to others about their actions. |  | | |
| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 14:05 - Mar 13 with 1100 views | monytowbray |
| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 14:01 - Mar 13 by textbackup |
aldi peri peri no chicken breasts? |
Ahh, I make my own seitan these days so no need. Get around 15 “breasts” for the value of two in supermarket, more freedom to change them up and tastier. | |
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| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 14:05 - Mar 13 with 1097 views | J2BLUE |
| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 13:59 - Mar 13 by monytowbray |
So you tried to get me on the car and had to move the goal posts to having a pop at, wait *checks notes* USING PUBLIC TRANSPORT.
Ffs.
Everything we do leaves a footprint. It’s about synergy with the planet. |
You probably even breath out carbon dioxide.
Bastard. |  |
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| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 14:09 - Mar 13 with 1070 views | Dubtractor |
| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 14:05 - Mar 13 by J2BLUE |
You probably even breath out carbon dioxide.
Bastard. |
I ate some vegan food, and farted loads the next day, and methane is a worse greenhouse gas than CO2, so I am pretty much evil. | |
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| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 14:10 - Mar 13 with 1058 views | monytowbray |
| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 14:04 - Mar 13 by solomon |
I’m one of those arrogant holier than thou ar5e holes who drives an electric vehicle but that doesn’t make me the worlds number one environmentalist, far from it, that’s why I refrain from preaching to others about their actions. |
Yet you came piling in here to have a pop at diesel/petrol and an assumed opportunity to be holier than thou over an electric car! Brilliant.
I’m not preaching. Why won’t you discuss the actual OP about pandemics and meat which was the point? I didn’t bring environmental footprints into this. | |
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| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 14:12 - Mar 13 with 1056 views | mutters |
The sad thing about these types of conversation these days is that there is no middle ground anymore. You're either on one side or another. Brexit has a lot to answer for in that regards for driving people into their silos.
I am not vegan, I eat meat a few times a week however i know a number of committed vegans who's carbon footprint is massive compared to mine. From that side I am "winning' however I lose the animal cruelty arguement by quite a margin. It's a many facated argument
All honestly depends on your perspective and how passionate you are about things. I always try to respect others points of view but sometimes people don't. This is what rubs people up the wrong way. If you want people to accept your point of view then you need to share the same courtesy. |  |
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| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 14:12 - Mar 13 with 1048 views | monytowbray |
| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 14:05 - Mar 13 by J2BLUE |
You probably even breath out carbon dioxide.
Bastard. |
CAN’T EVEN JUST KILL MYSELF TO REDUCE MY CARBON FOOTPRINT BECAUSE MY CORPSE WILL GIVE OFF GAS. | |
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| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 14:14 - Mar 13 with 1039 views | monytowbray |
| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 14:12 - Mar 13 by mutters |
The sad thing about these types of conversation these days is that there is no middle ground anymore. You're either on one side or another. Brexit has a lot to answer for in that regards for driving people into their silos.
I am not vegan, I eat meat a few times a week however i know a number of committed vegans who's carbon footprint is massive compared to mine. From that side I am "winning' however I lose the animal cruelty arguement by quite a margin. It's a many facated argument
All honestly depends on your perspective and how passionate you are about things. I always try to respect others points of view but sometimes people don't. This is what rubs people up the wrong way. If you want people to accept your point of view then you need to share the same courtesy. |
How do you win with people who won’t look at what you point them to?
I can’t be courteous to ignorance. | |
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| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 14:14 - Mar 13 with 1032 views | Ryorry |
| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 14:09 - Mar 13 by Dubtractor |
I ate some vegan food, and farted loads the next day, and methane is a worse greenhouse gas than CO2, so I am pretty much evil. |
I'm far-t-ichokes worse than you (see wot I did there?), as I grow both varieties & eat them by the bucketload.
I'm possiby the only human in history whose farts outdo those of their dog  |  |
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| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 14:23 - Mar 13 with 1005 views | tampa_bay |
| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 14:05 - Mar 13 by monytowbray |
Ahh, I make my own seitan these days so no need. Get around 15 “breasts” for the value of two in supermarket, more freedom to change them up and tastier. |
Got any recipes or tips on making it? |  | | |
| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 14:27 - Mar 13 with 995 views | solomon |
| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 14:10 - Mar 13 by monytowbray |
Yet you came piling in here to have a pop at diesel/petrol and an assumed opportunity to be holier than thou over an electric car! Brilliant.
I’m not preaching. Why won’t you discuss the actual OP about pandemics and meat which was the point? I didn’t bring environmental footprints into this. |
Ah you see you did really. | | | |
| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 14:42 - Mar 13 with 956 views | monytowbray |
| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 14:27 - Mar 13 by solomon |
Ah you see you did really. |
Well, I did say “dying planet” but it’s all connected.
But pandemics come from farming. Anyone wanna address that or shall we all bury our heads? | |
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| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 14:42 - Mar 13 with 951 views | monytowbray |
| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 14:23 - Mar 13 by tampa_bay |
Got any recipes or tips on making it? |
What you after? We got a chicken one, bacon one and kebab one we do a lot. | |
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| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 14:47 - Mar 13 with 948 views | Swailsey |
I am vegetarian, I would like to be vegan, but haven’t been able to. I am hypocritical and I own that.
Being honest, most people who claim to care about the environment and animals but who still eat meat are hypocritical too. That doesn’t make them the devil incarnate, but they should own it. I am aware there are some genuine exceptions of people who have to eat meat.
Ultimately, in terms of raw facts, it is kinder and better and (for a lot of people) a viable option to not eat meat. They just don’t - for a variety of reasons. Just own it and try and do a little better each day. Or don’t, but accept that really, in 2022, it is a tough thing to justify just ‘wanting to’. [Post edited 13 Mar 2022 14:52]
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| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 14:53 - Mar 13 with 934 views | PassionNotAnger |
| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 13:53 - Mar 13 by monytowbray |
Yes, occasionally I use buses and trains to go places. |
But proudly tries to avoid paying the train-fare. That’s criminal and the rest of us shouldn’t have to subsidise law breakers |  | | |
| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 14:53 - Mar 13 with 930 views | tampa_bay |
| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 14:42 - Mar 13 by monytowbray |
What you after? We got a chicken one, bacon one and kebab one we do a lot. |
Let’s see the chicken one please. | | | |
| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 15:03 - Mar 13 with 896 views | lowhouseblue |
| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 14:03 - Mar 13 by monytowbray |
And would anyone like to post the data that shows what this % is in emmissions vs meat (or even plant food production)?!
Sounds big on paper because you’d assume air travel is very VERY bad, until you look at the reality and data. |
i didn't suggest that it is more than meat - just that it is very significant (about 4% of total emissions). for someone like you who likes things to be black and white surely internet use = carbon emissions = global warming = bad. |  |
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| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 15:16 - Mar 13 with 851 views | monytowbray |
| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 14:53 - Mar 13 by PassionNotAnger |
But proudly tries to avoid paying the train-fare. That’s criminal and the rest of us shouldn’t have to subsidise law breakers |
The criminals are the corporations raising your prices. I’ve never charged anyone to get on a train, let alone inflated that cost to make a handful of greedy people rich.
Train was going where it was going anyway. I’m a dot that didn’t register. You are being conned by power.
Not sure what this has to do with the thread mind you. | |
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| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 15:18 - Mar 13 with 841 views | monytowbray |
| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 15:03 - Mar 13 by lowhouseblue |
i didn't suggest that it is more than meat - just that it is very significant (about 4% of total emissions). for someone like you who likes things to be black and white surely internet use = carbon emissions = global warming = bad. |
Well, you are comparing something much worse that needs to end to save the planet, with something not as bad and that could be managed easily within a greener eco system.
The grey area was the one you invented to connect these dots incorrectly.
Beyond that, please do elaborate what you are (or are not) suggesting because in context I think I’ve got it quite nailed on in the above. [Post edited 13 Mar 2022 15:19]
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| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 15:19 - Mar 13 with 836 views | noggin |
| Why are we still eating meat all things considered? on 13:41 - Mar 13 by Leaky |
Looking forward to my sirloin steak later |
British I hope. |  |
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