| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 08:02 - Apr 15 with 1342 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 01:04 - Apr 15 by BlueBadger |
'sure It'll hurt now, but your grandchildren will feel the benefits'.
Ripped straight from the Jacob Rees-Mogg Book Of Lies. |
Apart from that isn't at all what I said as I have no idea what the future holds only that the EU wasn't looking for the answers in the present. |  |
|  |
| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 08:21 - Apr 15 with 1304 views | BLUEGOLD |
| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 01:37 - Apr 15 by HARRY10 |
I remember when Farage peddled much the same nonsense. The EU would be finished within years as once the UK was out there would be Frexit, Nexit, Greaxit and lord knows how many other exits.
Six years on and we can see it was nothing but baseless lies, put out to re-assure thickos that they were doing the right(ie) thing. We can also see that all the other promises and claims were lies as well. There are no '40 new deals on day one'. In fact there are no 40 new deals at all.
What has happened is the UK has rolled over EI deals, and so doing are obliged to trade under EU schedules. They shout jump and we jump, with no say in the matter. The only new deals are with Japan, AUS and NZ - where in all three cases we have ended up with worse than we had before.
Once a global trading nation we are now slowly sinking into backward looking isolation, hindered by a myriad of petty regulation and checks, introduced after brexit - and we have not even been able to apply this red tape to imports. Too fearful of the consequences.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-eu-food-drink-exports-b202
Around 42% of our trade is with the EU. Thickos thought it would be a good idea to make it harder to trade with our neighbours, and Quelle Surprise, they are taking their trade elsewhere. Importers of UK food and drink are sourcing goofs elsewhere as companies re-locate to the EU.
Unsurprisingly we no longer hear from Farage. Fox, Davis. IDS, Nuttall and the ragbag of other liars. Some like Fox and Davis were 'consultants' for US giants, others like Farage were nothing more than 'tongues for hire', whilst wretches like IDS, Nuttal and the loons of UKIP were simply useful idiots.
And as the ports clog up with worse to come, the move out of the UK for manufacturing will continue. Exports to EU countries continue to slide compared to pre pandemic levels.
And it is not simply trade, as known. Universities are seeing EU students going elsewhere, UK bands are struggling to work in the EU and the fashion industry is similarly struggling with red tape. Right across the UK this level or bureaucracy is dealing the UK a death by a thousand cuts.
As with the tide going out, it is not always easy to see it happening, other than over a long period what was water is no longer water. Comeback after another 12 months and see how much more has ebbed away. |
Yes, but blue passports, lots of Union Flags and fewer brown people |  | | |
| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 09:24 - Apr 15 with 1240 views | Pendejo |
| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 23:05 - Apr 14 by Nthsuffolkblue |
I have heard this line from a leave supporter before. Got to give it 10 years to start to see the benefits. I am sorry, the people most badly affected by this really cannot afford 10 years of misery before there are some perceived benefits. Benefits to whom too? Your supposition that the EU is set to self-implode rely on countries leaving. If the UK had not left then that would have kept it stronger! |
Way back when, my Chauffeurs were telling me what they were hearing from the financial wheeler and dealers in the back of the car.
Most were saying 5 to 10 years of pain, then ok after that as other countries leave, unable to take on the burden of UK's payments.
As rich people rarely seem to suffer, that's 5 to 10 years of pain for those that aren't rich but aren't in poverty either i.e. The majority.
Please remember to thank Cameron, Johnson, Tory and Labour parties when you next have a chance to vote. Vote against anyone who supported Brexit. Time for real change in politics, make it happen people. |  |
| |
| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 10:19 - Apr 15 with 1206 views | Dubtractor |
| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 08:02 - Apr 15 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Apart from that isn't at all what I said as I have no idea what the future holds only that the EU wasn't looking for the answers in the present. |
Obviously I disagree with you on brexit, but you do get misquoted a bit on here don't you? |  |
| |
| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 10:21 - Apr 15 with 1203 views | Dubtractor |
| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 22:51 - Apr 14 by Lord_Lucan |
It's a long burner Dubs
Gotta say - I voted remain and I would vote the same again tomorrow, without a doubt, 100%.
Hooever - I voted remain for complete self interest as I knew / know that my business interests (which completely effect my personal interests) would be better served by remaining in the European Union for the short term
But - I have to say, in my opinion - after maybe 10 years UK PLC will massively benefit by being out of the EU - in fact, in 10 years time the EU will be a busted flush
There is absolutely no way the Euro can survive with Germany telling the likes of Spain what to do - let alone Italy.
And France???? how long do you expect them to play second fiddle to a weakened Germany??? |
Not sure I agree with your optimism for the future, but its all opinions innit? I hope you're right! | |
| |
| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 12:25 - Apr 15 with 1170 views | wkj |
The whole referendum process was an utter sham. Campaigns being run by private organisations with politicians as figureheads were always going to end up in a huge accountability void. We still get reminded that delivering brexit was a strength of Johnson's - but without the benefits that were being said to be part of it, what actually has been delivered other than a deeper sense of division and tribalism?
It's as if the UK is on a massive downer and keeps getting its hands on more coke to take off the edge in the form of 'Brexit was delivered', rather than the rehab this country desperately needs. I keep hoping we will one day overdose on bulls*it and some wonderful intervention will come along. |  |
| |
| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 12:44 - Apr 15 with 1152 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 10:19 - Apr 15 by Dubtractor |
Obviously I disagree with you on brexit, but you do get misquoted a bit on here don't you? |
Tell me about it Dubbers....Footers knows my every thought on Covid, Badger thinks I listened to Leave EU and that's just on this thread. Seems the only person that doesn't know what I "really think" is me.
Got your earlies in yet? We had our first asparagus yesterday. | |
| |
| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 14:10 - Apr 15 with 1113 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 23:05 - Apr 14 by Nthsuffolkblue |
I have heard this line from a leave supporter before. Got to give it 10 years to start to see the benefits. I am sorry, the people most badly affected by this really cannot afford 10 years of misery before there are some perceived benefits. Benefits to whom too? Your supposition that the EU is set to self-implode rely on countries leaving. If the UK had not left then that would have kept it stronger! |
It’s bollox anyway. Notice you never hear HOW things will suddenly improve in decades time; it’s simply a way to avoid any responsibility now.
It doesn’t matter how long you wait, the EU nations aren’t going to move any further away and be replaced by new trading partners next door. So it will ALWAYS hit our businesses for as long as we diverge from them as it’s the nearest large market.
It’s ALWAYS going to be more difficult to work, live and travel across the EU for as long as we diverge.
We’ll adjust to the changes in the long term, but that’s not the same as benefiting.
The only way things will improve in the long term is if we have closer alignment for trade and travel. That would get some of the previous benefits back. That’ll become more likely as more people wake up to the fact they were conned, hopefully. |  |
| |
Login to get fewer ads
| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 14:14 - Apr 15 with 1099 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 12:44 - Apr 15 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Tell me about it Dubbers....Footers knows my every thought on Covid, Badger thinks I listened to Leave EU and that's just on this thread. Seems the only person that doesn't know what I "really think" is me.
Got your earlies in yet? We had our first asparagus yesterday. |
You can try and deny you’re the b@stard love child of Ann Widdecombe and Nigel Farage all you like, but we’re not falling for it. Def info. | |
| |
| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 14:27 - Apr 15 with 1077 views | mylittletown |
| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 14:10 - Apr 15 by Swansea_Blue |
It’s bollox anyway. Notice you never hear HOW things will suddenly improve in decades time; it’s simply a way to avoid any responsibility now.
It doesn’t matter how long you wait, the EU nations aren’t going to move any further away and be replaced by new trading partners next door. So it will ALWAYS hit our businesses for as long as we diverge from them as it’s the nearest large market.
It’s ALWAYS going to be more difficult to work, live and travel across the EU for as long as we diverge.
We’ll adjust to the changes in the long term, but that’s not the same as benefiting.
The only way things will improve in the long term is if we have closer alignment for trade and travel. That would get some of the previous benefits back. That’ll become more likely as more people wake up to the fact they were conned, hopefully. |
Yep, the best we can do is adjust to our much reduced state over the next 25-30 years. Just learn to deal with being poorer and disregarded. |  | | |
| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 14:40 - Apr 15 with 1059 views | Dubtractor |
| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 12:44 - Apr 15 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Tell me about it Dubbers....Footers knows my every thought on Covid, Badger thinks I listened to Leave EU and that's just on this thread. Seems the only person that doesn't know what I "really think" is me.
Got your earlies in yet? We had our first asparagus yesterday. |
Yeah, spuds are in, plus a few other bits. Will have our first rhubarb in a week or so.
As you know, we're house hunting at the mo (failing somewhat though!), so planning things a bit more for the short term in the veg patch. | |
| |
| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 16:05 - Apr 15 with 1005 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 14:27 - Apr 15 by mylittletown |
Yep, the best we can do is adjust to our much reduced state over the next 25-30 years. Just learn to deal with being poorer and disregarded. |
The best we can hope for is people to wake up and us to rejoin. I am sure we will before too long. Weren't the leave demographics such that by now the majority of those eligible to vote are likely remain? With Covid speeding the change in demographics too, I would be surprised if any new referendum wouldn't deliver a rejoin verdict. The biggest issue is that the potential for a party to run with it to be elected is low. Unfortunately, for as long as the Tories suppress the right by absorbing them and can be elected landslides on under 44% of the vote, we are left with what we have. |  |
| |
| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 18:27 - Apr 15 with 942 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 14:14 - Apr 15 by Swansea_Blue |
You can try and deny you’re the b@stard love child of Ann Widdecombe and Nigel Farage all you like, but we’re not falling for it. Def info. |
Thanks for that, it's taken years off me. | |
| |
| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 19:15 - Apr 15 with 913 views | HARRY10 |
| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 16:05 - Apr 15 by Nthsuffolkblue |
The best we can hope for is people to wake up and us to rejoin. I am sure we will before too long. Weren't the leave demographics such that by now the majority of those eligible to vote are likely remain? With Covid speeding the change in demographics too, I would be surprised if any new referendum wouldn't deliver a rejoin verdict. The biggest issue is that the potential for a party to run with it to be elected is low. Unfortunately, for as long as the Tories suppress the right by absorbing them and can be elected landslides on under 44% of the vote, we are left with what we have. |
Would another referendum have a clear mandate - the previous one was only advisory ?
What the OP states is all too familiar to anyone who has heard what Jehovahs Weinesses have to say. A fantasy afterlife, that can easily be dismissed by fairly basic rational thought - but clung onto by some for various reasons. Finacual gain for the leaders,a s with brexit
the problem the IK faces is how much long term damage will have been fone before it opens up again a trades with the world, as well as it's closes market.
Much of the UK industrial heartland vote leave as in desperation they were willing to believe that someone could reverse the decline (with lies). Absolute c**** like Farage, Johnson have no qualms about lying to better their personal political ends
NO politician can bring back the heavy industries that made those areas prosperous, nor bring back the communities that were based around them. Structures and support that were based around work social/sports clubs and self help via the unions.
And as those industries left, so did the brightest and the best - much as is now happening with the UK, and I have not doubt skilled workers.
There is much that can be done, but not by peddling lies about nonsense such as levelling up, or wasting billions on what is already a white elephant (HS2). And as long as you have 3rd rate politicians taking measures for short term gain, and political advantage the slide will continue.
What's needed is serious planning for the long term, not the failings of serial incompetents and spivs. That won't happen until; like an AA meeting, voters start being honest with themselves and accept where we are as a country - sliding slowly down the plug hole, returning to being the sick man of Europe. | | | |
| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 19:23 - Apr 15 with 893 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 19:15 - Apr 15 by HARRY10 |
Would another referendum have a clear mandate - the previous one was only advisory ?
What the OP states is all too familiar to anyone who has heard what Jehovahs Weinesses have to say. A fantasy afterlife, that can easily be dismissed by fairly basic rational thought - but clung onto by some for various reasons. Finacual gain for the leaders,a s with brexit
the problem the IK faces is how much long term damage will have been fone before it opens up again a trades with the world, as well as it's closes market.
Much of the UK industrial heartland vote leave as in desperation they were willing to believe that someone could reverse the decline (with lies). Absolute c**** like Farage, Johnson have no qualms about lying to better their personal political ends
NO politician can bring back the heavy industries that made those areas prosperous, nor bring back the communities that were based around them. Structures and support that were based around work social/sports clubs and self help via the unions.
And as those industries left, so did the brightest and the best - much as is now happening with the UK, and I have not doubt skilled workers.
There is much that can be done, but not by peddling lies about nonsense such as levelling up, or wasting billions on what is already a white elephant (HS2). And as long as you have 3rd rate politicians taking measures for short term gain, and political advantage the slide will continue.
What's needed is serious planning for the long term, not the failings of serial incompetents and spivs. That won't happen until; like an AA meeting, voters start being honest with themselves and accept where we are as a country - sliding slowly down the plug hole, returning to being the sick man of Europe. |
Can I suggest that the next time you type a post, try thinking what the main point you want to make is and writing it succinctly? Once written, read it through and delete anything that makes no sense or is irrelevant to your main point. Then correct the typos in the 10% that remains. Maybe you might get a point across then.
As for your first sentence/question, I think it answers itself. | |
| |
| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 19:56 - Apr 15 with 852 views | HARRY10 |
| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 19:23 - Apr 15 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Can I suggest that the next time you type a post, try thinking what the main point you want to make is and writing it succinctly? Once written, read it through and delete anything that makes no sense or is irrelevant to your main point. Then correct the typos in the 10% that remains. Maybe you might get a point across then.
As for your first sentence/question, I think it answers itself. |
thank you for reading - if it is as bad as you state then I am surprised you bothered
and then to reply (!)
7/10 could do better | | | |
| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 20:30 - Apr 15 with 834 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 19:56 - Apr 15 by HARRY10 |
thank you for reading - if it is as bad as you state then I am surprised you bothered
and then to reply (!)
7/10 could do better |
He's a rightie Harry.....and I hear a little portly too! | |
| |
| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 20:49 - Apr 15 with 827 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 16:05 - Apr 15 by Nthsuffolkblue |
The best we can hope for is people to wake up and us to rejoin. I am sure we will before too long. Weren't the leave demographics such that by now the majority of those eligible to vote are likely remain? With Covid speeding the change in demographics too, I would be surprised if any new referendum wouldn't deliver a rejoin verdict. The biggest issue is that the potential for a party to run with it to be elected is low. Unfortunately, for as long as the Tories suppress the right by absorbing them and can be elected landslides on under 44% of the vote, we are left with what we have. |
I typed a long reply to this and then it was wiped. To cut a long story short - a Norway type deal is probably the best option realistically. Nobody’s got the stomach for another referendum, but an opposition could easily stand on a manifesto of closer integration (Norway style). If they had the balls to admit Brexit is a very, very bad thing that is. | |
| |
| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 23:33 - Apr 15 with 756 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 20:49 - Apr 15 by Swansea_Blue |
I typed a long reply to this and then it was wiped. To cut a long story short - a Norway type deal is probably the best option realistically. Nobody’s got the stomach for another referendum, but an opposition could easily stand on a manifesto of closer integration (Norway style). If they had the balls to admit Brexit is a very, very bad thing that is. |
I could see LibDem or Green standing on a rejoin platform but I don't think I could see them winning power. Labour won't offer it I am sure. | |
| |
| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 23:34 - Apr 15 with 752 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 19:56 - Apr 15 by HARRY10 |
thank you for reading - if it is as bad as you state then I am surprised you bothered
and then to reply (!)
7/10 could do better |
That's the sort of the thing I mean, Harry.
Well done! | |
| |
| |
By continuing to use the site, you agree to our use of cookies and to abide by our Terms and Conditions.
