| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? 13:44 - May 27 with 4167 views | BonneNIL |
I was just thinking about Evans cashing in on our best players and how they actually did (or are doing) post Town. The reason I am reflecting on this, is had we kept some of our key players and built sides around them we probably would have never ended up a mid-table third division side. We actually had some really good players on the books during Evans's tenure as owner, but as soon as there was so much as a sniff of selling Evans was all over it like a bad rash.
The ones that stick out are:
Jon Walters - 269 Premier League games and 62 goals. FA Cup runner-up: 2010—11 (Ireland International)
Jordan Rhodes - 221 goals across all leagues, Football League One play-offs: 2012, Football League Championship runner-up: 2015—16, and EFL Championship: 2018—19 winner. (Scotland International)
Connor Wickham - 141 Premier League games, FA Cup runner-up: 2015—16
Aaron Cresswell - 255 Premier League Games, Europa League Semi-Finalist, England International
Tyrone Mings - 155 Premier League Games, EFL Championship play-offs: 2019, EFL Cup runner-up: 2019—20, UEFA European Championship runner-up: 2020 as England International
Daryl Murphy - EFL Championship: 2016—17
Bartosz BiaÅ‚kowski, EFL Championship Golden Glove: 2019—20
We often heard about how this was all good business at the time and that the money would be invested in the team, yet it never was. Fans would site the Dyer sale as an example of why this would help fund our promotion, while we dropped further down the league and saw absolutely no benefit from the sales. Aside from Murphy who was older at the time when he left, they all went on to achieve something in football while we stagnated. Even Murphy won a league title though.
The Bart one particularly sticks out as stupid for me, as well as the fact I can't believe Evans got a free pass for it. While this wasn't so much as a cash-in, this was Evans trying to do football on the cheap as usual. I and every ST got a begging letter from Evans where he specifically named Bart as a player we would keep as a key part of the promotion push. Literally, as soon as ST sales were closed he was trying to offload his wages and out the door to Millwall. Nobody complained. It was a good bit of business apparently. Getting rid of Bart, who was our best player by some stretch, was a key reason as to why we did not get promoted that season, we signed Holy, who was an average at best keeper for Gillingham, and when he struggled, signed Norris, who played the bulk of his football in the National League for Royston and Cambridge. We leaked silly goals all season and look what happened.
Evans really did screw himself over with his transfer business. |  |
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| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 14:10 - May 27 with 3330 views | homer_123 |
For balance, he turned down a bid of circa £7m for Didz - so he was not all about selling key assets. |  |
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| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 14:25 - May 27 with 3289 views | JammyDodgerrr |
You've made a post about selling key players and not listed any fees. |  |
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| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 14:29 - May 27 with 3271 views | chicoazul |
| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 14:10 - May 27 by homer_123 |
For balance, he turned down a bid of circa £7m for Didz - so he was not all about selling key assets. |
And he held on to Mings for another year because Mick told him to and realised a bigger fee as a result. People are always looking for competence or silky business doings with Evans, they can’t or won’t accept the fact he was just a clueless disaster. |  |
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| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 14:33 - May 27 with 3266 views | Illinoisblue |
| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 14:25 - May 27 by JammyDodgerrr |
You've made a post about selling key players and not listed any fees. |
Nor given any context to the transfers and acknowledged that some of the players listed no doubt wanted to leave to go to bigger clubs. |  |
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| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 14:40 - May 27 with 3218 views | homer_123 |
| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 14:33 - May 27 by Illinoisblue |
Nor given any context to the transfers and acknowledged that some of the players listed no doubt wanted to leave to go to bigger clubs. |
Or, for that matter acknowledged that Evans would have been informed by whatever incumbent manager we had at those times of selling players. | |
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| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 14:43 - May 27 with 3207 views | Keno |
Evans needed to sell players cos it made the team worse so he lost more money and thus was able to claim more tax back
He made a fortune out of the tax he saved selling town players |  |
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| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 14:46 - May 27 with 3198 views | homer_123 |
| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 14:43 - May 27 by Keno |
Evans needed to sell players cos it made the team worse so he lost more money and thus was able to claim more tax back
He made a fortune out of the tax he saved selling town players |
Spoken like a true accountant! ;) | |
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| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 14:46 - May 27 with 3199 views | SamWhiteUK |
Not just Murphy - every player was older when they left |  | | |
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| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 14:46 - May 27 with 3196 views | homer_123 |
| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 14:46 - May 27 by SamWhiteUK |
Not just Murphy - every player was older when they left |
Are you sure about that - that's quite a statement to make. | |
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| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 14:54 - May 27 with 3167 views | Keno |
| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 14:46 - May 27 by homer_123 |
Spoken like a true accountant! ;) |
Oh please, I dint have that exciting a life!! | |
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| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 15:44 - May 27 with 3088 views | Parsley |
| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 14:10 - May 27 by homer_123 |
For balance, he turned down a bid of circa £7m for Didz - so he was not all about selling key assets. |
He also let a lot of players go for free after paying decent transfer fees for them. He just wasn't a great owner and should have appointed an actual CEO who knew what they were doing. |  | | |
| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 16:17 - May 27 with 3013 views | BonneNIL |
| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 14:29 - May 27 by chicoazul |
And he held on to Mings for another year because Mick told him to and realised a bigger fee as a result. People are always looking for competence or silky business doings with Evans, they can’t or won’t accept the fact he was just a clueless disaster. |
Held on to Mings another year? He joined in 2012 and didn't really feature until the season (2014015) before he sold. We only really got to see a season out of him. | |
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| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 16:18 - May 27 with 3007 views | BonneNIL |
| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 14:54 - May 27 by Keno |
Oh please, I dint have that exciting a life!! |
So the consensus is he was right to sell then? What was the benefit other than money? | |
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| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 16:25 - May 27 with 2997 views | PhilTWTD |
| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 16:17 - May 27 by BonneNIL |
Held on to Mings another year? He joined in 2012 and didn't really feature until the season (2014015) before he sold. We only really got to see a season out of him. |
Turned down a bid from Palace about 18 months before he moved on.
Bids had been turned down for Walters a couple of years before he eventually left - Wigan, I think - and he made it clear he wanted to go to the extent he had fallen out with the manager fairly spectacularly. |  | | |
| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 16:29 - May 27 with 2979 views | homer_123 |
| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 15:44 - May 27 by Parsley |
He also let a lot of players go for free after paying decent transfer fees for them. He just wasn't a great owner and should have appointed an actual CEO who knew what they were doing. |
Oh...I'm not advocating for Evans! | |
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| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 16:40 - May 27 with 2959 views | NthQldITFC |
| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 14:46 - May 27 by SamWhiteUK |
Not just Murphy - every player was older when they left |
I think the ones who he sold to save the tax on were younger when they left, and they were certainly sold for money, unless they weren't. |  |
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| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 16:52 - May 27 with 2938 views | PrideOfTheEast |
| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 16:25 - May 27 by PhilTWTD |
Turned down a bid from Palace about 18 months before he moved on.
Bids had been turned down for Walters a couple of years before he eventually left - Wigan, I think - and he made it clear he wanted to go to the extent he had fallen out with the manager fairly spectacularly. |
Swansea too were in for Mings in the January before he left. |  | | |
| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 17:12 - May 27 with 2888 views | BlueBoots |
You left Martyn Waghorn off your list? (Was about £5m, wasn't it?) |  |
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| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 17:17 - May 27 with 2884 views | galacticoblue |
A lot was made of Evans ploughing in 7-8 million a year to keep Ipswich alive - whenever we sold a player the cash was never seen elsewhere - the dept just kept ramping up.
He is a shrewd/tight nearly billionaire and IMO his ongoing investment in town was effectively much lower than the 7-8 million a year. | | | |
| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 17:56 - May 27 with 2799 views | Mach_foreignBlue |
| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 17:17 - May 27 by galacticoblue |
A lot was made of Evans ploughing in 7-8 million a year to keep Ipswich alive - whenever we sold a player the cash was never seen elsewhere - the dept just kept ramping up.
He is a shrewd/tight nearly billionaire and IMO his ongoing investment in town was effectively much lower than the 7-8 million a year. |
But the happy clappers kept defending him.
He was an absolute disgrace and really happy for Huddersfield that the potential takeover didn't go through. Wouldn't wish him to any club. Even the worst enemy. |  | | |
| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 18:06 - May 27 with 2778 views | wkj |
| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 17:56 - May 27 by Mach_foreignBlue |
But the happy clappers kept defending him.
He was an absolute disgrace and really happy for Huddersfield that the potential takeover didn't go through. Wouldn't wish him to any club. Even the worst enemy. |
I don't think many were Happy Clapping him somehow - not at Portman Road, where Ipswich play their home games. |  |
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| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 18:09 - May 27 with 2764 views | Mach_foreignBlue |
| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 18:06 - May 27 by wkj |
I don't think many were Happy Clapping him somehow - not at Portman Road, where Ipswich play their home games. |
You're so, so clever. Crikey ! But you must have been in the coma during his time with the club if you disagree with my view. | | | |
| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 18:10 - May 27 with 2762 views | wkj |
| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 18:09 - May 27 by Mach_foreignBlue |
You're so, so clever. Crikey ! But you must have been in the coma during his time with the club if you disagree with my view. |
That isn't how comas work. | |
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| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 18:12 - May 27 with 2754 views | Mach_foreignBlue |
| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 18:10 - May 27 by wkj |
That isn't how comas work. |
Whatever you say. You're still wrong. | | | |
| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 18:14 - May 27 with 2754 views | wkj |
| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 18:12 - May 27 by Mach_foreignBlue |
Whatever you say. You're still wrong. |
In that case, you're 100% right | |
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