| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? 13:44 - May 27 with 4168 views | BonneNIL |
I was just thinking about Evans cashing in on our best players and how they actually did (or are doing) post Town. The reason I am reflecting on this, is had we kept some of our key players and built sides around them we probably would have never ended up a mid-table third division side. We actually had some really good players on the books during Evans's tenure as owner, but as soon as there was so much as a sniff of selling Evans was all over it like a bad rash.
The ones that stick out are:
Jon Walters - 269 Premier League games and 62 goals. FA Cup runner-up: 2010—11 (Ireland International)
Jordan Rhodes - 221 goals across all leagues, Football League One play-offs: 2012, Football League Championship runner-up: 2015—16, and EFL Championship: 2018—19 winner. (Scotland International)
Connor Wickham - 141 Premier League games, FA Cup runner-up: 2015—16
Aaron Cresswell - 255 Premier League Games, Europa League Semi-Finalist, England International
Tyrone Mings - 155 Premier League Games, EFL Championship play-offs: 2019, EFL Cup runner-up: 2019—20, UEFA European Championship runner-up: 2020 as England International
Daryl Murphy - EFL Championship: 2016—17
Bartosz BiaÅ‚kowski, EFL Championship Golden Glove: 2019—20
We often heard about how this was all good business at the time and that the money would be invested in the team, yet it never was. Fans would site the Dyer sale as an example of why this would help fund our promotion, while we dropped further down the league and saw absolutely no benefit from the sales. Aside from Murphy who was older at the time when he left, they all went on to achieve something in football while we stagnated. Even Murphy won a league title though.
The Bart one particularly sticks out as stupid for me, as well as the fact I can't believe Evans got a free pass for it. While this wasn't so much as a cash-in, this was Evans trying to do football on the cheap as usual. I and every ST got a begging letter from Evans where he specifically named Bart as a player we would keep as a key part of the promotion push. Literally, as soon as ST sales were closed he was trying to offload his wages and out the door to Millwall. Nobody complained. It was a good bit of business apparently. Getting rid of Bart, who was our best player by some stretch, was a key reason as to why we did not get promoted that season, we signed Holy, who was an average at best keeper for Gillingham, and when he struggled, signed Norris, who played the bulk of his football in the National League for Royston and Cambridge. We leaked silly goals all season and look what happened.
Evans really did screw himself over with his transfer business. |  |
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| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 18:15 - May 27 with 746 views | Mach_foreignBlue |
| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 18:14 - May 27 by wkj |
In that case, you're 100% right |
Don't be such fake. Have a good evening. |  | | |
| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 18:18 - May 27 with 727 views | wkj |
| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 18:15 - May 27 by Mach_foreignBlue |
Don't be such fake. Have a good evening. |
Kesgrave Community Center... you and me.... bring Weetabix |  |
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| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 21:21 - May 27 with 686 views | Coastalblue |
| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 18:10 - May 27 by wkj |
That isn't how comas work. |
He didn't even use a coma, just a full stop. |  |
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| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 22:03 - May 27 with 671 views | Enigma_Blue |
| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 17:56 - May 27 by Mach_foreignBlue |
But the happy clappers kept defending him.
He was an absolute disgrace and really happy for Huddersfield that the potential takeover didn't go through. Wouldn't wish him to any club. Even the worst enemy. |
He wasn't the best owner but to say he was an absolute disgrace is over the top. I can think of numerous owners that were far worse than Evans. Mel Morris, the Venky's, Karl Royston, Stephen Hinchcliffe, Nick Buchanan and Craig White are the ones that immediately come to mind. |  | | |
| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 22:21 - May 27 with 652 views | itfc_bucks |
| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 17:56 - May 27 by Mach_foreignBlue |
But the happy clappers kept defending him.
He was an absolute disgrace and really happy for Huddersfield that the potential takeover didn't go through. Wouldn't wish him to any club. Even the worst enemy. |
Oh change the fffffing record, you're possibly the most tedious poster on here, and it's a bloody congested field to win that accolade.
If you can't think of half a dozen worse owners with literally 7 seconds thought time, you're really not a football person at all. | | | |
| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 22:23 - May 27 with 657 views | PhilTWTD |
| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 17:17 - May 27 by galacticoblue |
A lot was made of Evans ploughing in 7-8 million a year to keep Ipswich alive - whenever we sold a player the cash was never seen elsewhere - the dept just kept ramping up.
He is a shrewd/tight nearly billionaire and IMO his ongoing investment in town was effectively much lower than the 7-8 million a year. |
The debt, which was the money being ploughed in largely to cover wages, increased by a bit less when big fees came in. That's where the fees went.
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| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 22:30 - May 27 with 651 views | Wakh |
You have listed 7 players there over a period of 12-years. I would imagine almost every club below the premiership has sold more talented players than that, even when increasing it with those decent ones you missed like Webster. | | | |
| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 09:03 - May 28 with 572 views | Churchman |
The reality is that during Evans’ ownership, few clubs declined as much and offered their supporters so little over such a long period. I was watching my club die. I genuinely think that had things not changed, it’d have been a relegation battle this year and worse next.
It was everything from the stadium to the youth team. Nothing was spared decline. I haven’t a clue what Marcus Evans Group lost in real money after the accountants had worked their magic. I doubt it looked much like the paper figures. It’s pretty clear to me that after the speculative fast buck punt went wrong, he wasn’t very interested. Add in having no idea whatsoever how to run a football club or bothering to appoint people who do and here we are.
Whatever the future holds, I hope and believe it’ll be better than that. Roll on the sale of his remaining shares in the club. If he buys into another club, I hope for their sakes he’s learned his lessons. |  | | |
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| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 09:27 - May 28 with 562 views | Chrisd |
For all that’s come out in the wash post the ME era, it served to highlight we really were only going one way under him. I appreciate we find ourselves at one of the club’s lowest points currently, but I do believe our new owners are getting a lot of things right off the pitch which gives me hope that we will eventually turn this club around after years of neglect and decline. [Post edited 28 May 2022 9:33]
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| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 09:37 - May 28 with 554 views | Deano69 |
| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 14:46 - May 27 by homer_123 |
Are you sure about that - that's quite a statement to make. |
I’ve checked this on Wikipedia and Googled it, he/she is correct. Ours everything into perspective. |  |
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| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 09:47 - May 28 with 544 views | Veggie |
To his credit Marcus Evans generally didn’t sell our key players when large bids came in for them unless the manager wanted to sell them (hence why we sold many under the disastrous Hurst). |  | | |
| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 11:19 - May 28 with 515 views | Wakh |
| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 09:37 - May 28 by Deano69 |
I’ve checked this on Wikipedia and Googled it, he/she is correct. Ours everything into perspective. |
Rubbish!!! Finidi was deffo younger when he left us! | | | |
| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 16:43 - May 28 with 447 views | galacticoblue |
| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 22:23 - May 27 by PhilTWTD |
The debt, which was the money being ploughed in largely to cover wages, increased by a bit less when big fees came in. That's where the fees went.
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No doubt you are right - just remember feeling so deflated when we sold the likes of Murphy, Mings, Waghorn and thinking oh well, we’re now worse off - no reinvestment in the team then. | | | |
| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 18:32 - May 28 with 419 views | Vic |
| Marcus Evans and selling key players - what was the benefit? on 16:40 - May 27 by NthQldITFC |
I think the ones who he sold to save the tax on were younger when they left, and they were certainly sold for money, unless they weren't. |
He managed to turn back time? Can he do that for Morsey as well so he is younger when we sell him than when we bought him? |  |
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