| Progressive nationalism in action 14:04 - May 29 with 4987 views | tractordownsouth |
SNP MP demonstrating her left-wing credentials by arguing that Scotland shouldn't be helping poor people from other countries... how is this any different from Nigel Farage and co calling for foreign aid cuts or blaming all our problems on Romanians and Bulgarians?
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| Progressive nationalism in action on 21:46 - May 29 with 913 views | BlueBadger |
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| Progressive nationalism in action on 22:34 - May 29 with 867 views | monytowbray |
| Progressive nationalism in action on 19:30 - May 29 by Kropotkin123 |
"Which point have I lost here?"
The point where it was never about winning or losing.
- Come on TDS, engage your brain.
- GB News and Talk TV would pay good money for a presenter of such calibre.
- If you posted this on Twitter Tom Hunt MP would retweet it, that’s how poor your take is.
- just soundbite mud slinging - oh the irony.
- You’re not silly like some of our resident gammons here, I expect better.
- Think critically or stop wasting everyone’s time.
- Is it no wonder your only cheerleader in the thread is Glassers?! - Putting down two people at once
- Your point is falling apart at an exponential rate. I really would stop, have a think and walk away.
- Has Darren Grimes hacked your account today?
- Jesus f**king christ.
- Come on FFS. This is painful.
All of this pugnacious rhetoric has absolutely nothing to do with, and detracts from, the good points you make. You say you expect better from TDS, maybe you should put that energy into holding yourself to higher standards. [Post edited 29 May 2022 19:31]
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Oh diddums.
Don’t forget all the endless points I made demonstrating the point itself.
And TBH f**k the way TBS piled in claiming anyone who disagreed is anti-helping the poor. Kinda asked for it really.
At least you get the enlightened upvote from Glassers though, who’s never posted anything rude and argumentative here in his life.
I’ve had much worse thrown my way for less over the years and not once do I recall you coming in to be my knight in shining armour. [Post edited 29 May 2022 22:40]
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| Progressive nationalism in action on 22:35 - May 29 with 867 views | monytowbray |
| Progressive nationalism in action on 19:36 - May 29 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
That settles it then, glad you cleared that up.
You so nearly got through a thread (on Scottish windfall tax) without mentioning Vegans and Tom Hunt. Maybe next time eh. |
Yes, all of that really really shows me! Is that the best you got? Is my actual points and counter points too hard for ya? | |
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| Progressive nationalism in action on 22:41 - May 29 with 852 views | monytowbray |
| Progressive nationalism in action on 21:32 - May 29 by giant_stow |
Harsh roughing up fella - you just called standard political bs, political bs. |
Actually to be fair he got involved in the BS. As stated, GB News are hiring presenters who lack basic critical thinking. | |
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| Progressive nationalism in action on 23:10 - May 29 with 800 views | tractordownsouth |
| Progressive nationalism in action on 21:32 - May 29 by giant_stow |
Harsh roughing up fella - you just called standard political bs, political bs. |
It’s fine, I’m big enough to take it. I still don’t agree with the counter points made on this thread, but that’s life - I’ve been wrong on plenty before and maybe I’ll change my mind on the issue one day, who knows.
Like other posters have said, if DK and Callis are incapable of arguing their case without resorting to insults and saying that anyone who dares to disagree with them is thick then that’s their problem, not mine. | |
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| Progressive nationalism in action on 23:30 - May 29 with 768 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Progressive nationalism in action on 22:35 - May 29 by monytowbray |
Yes, all of that really really shows me! Is that the best you got? Is my actual points and counter points too hard for ya? |
Wasn’t arguing either way actually. Just an observation of the way you go all James O’Brien on people that dare question anything outside your political thought (although you probably take that as a compliment).
You’re also the same fella who tells people what to eat for dinner, so there’s that. [Post edited 29 May 2022 23:31]
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| Progressive nationalism in action on 23:38 - May 29 with 748 views | XYZ |
| Progressive nationalism in action on 23:30 - May 29 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Wasn’t arguing either way actually. Just an observation of the way you go all James O’Brien on people that dare question anything outside your political thought (although you probably take that as a compliment).
You’re also the same fella who tells people what to eat for dinner, so there’s that. [Post edited 29 May 2022 23:31]
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" ... you go all James O’Brien on people ..."
What's that, then?
Got any specific examples? |  | | |
| Progressive nationalism in action on 00:07 - May 30 with 716 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Progressive nationalism in action on 23:38 - May 29 by XYZ |
" ... you go all James O’Brien on people ..."
What's that, then?
Got any specific examples? |
Imposing his world view in a self righteous tone constantly isn’t enough for you? He literally started an entire thread telling people they shouldn’t eat meat anymore. Doesn’t JOB have a book titled how to change your mind or something similar?
The off putting part that many align themselves with on here is that anyone that doesn’t completely agree with them is wrong and deserves abuse. You can see that throughout this thread alone and that’s in discussing a topic with someone who he apparently respects as not a complete “gammon” but is still a “thicko” in the context of this discussion.
Wasn’t there another thread trying to “out” people that voted conservative in 2019 recently, with prominent posters saying they deserve abuse if they admit to it. What’s that all about? I thought it was the other side that were the fascists. | | | |
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| Progressive nationalism in action on 00:30 - May 30 with 698 views | XYZ |
| Progressive nationalism in action on 00:07 - May 30 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Imposing his world view in a self righteous tone constantly isn’t enough for you? He literally started an entire thread telling people they shouldn’t eat meat anymore. Doesn’t JOB have a book titled how to change your mind or something similar?
The off putting part that many align themselves with on here is that anyone that doesn’t completely agree with them is wrong and deserves abuse. You can see that throughout this thread alone and that’s in discussing a topic with someone who he apparently respects as not a complete “gammon” but is still a “thicko” in the context of this discussion.
Wasn’t there another thread trying to “out” people that voted conservative in 2019 recently, with prominent posters saying they deserve abuse if they admit to it. What’s that all about? I thought it was the other side that were the fascists. |
I was asking about your specific comment, not about other stuff.
Is it wrong to ask you to justify your comment?
" ... you go all James O’Brien on people ..."
What does this mean?
Is it just that he asks that you justify your comment?
If so, what's your problem with that?
There was a thread asking people who voted tory in 2019 to justify their actions - I started it. Despite some abuse from the usual misogynistic suspects that self-identify as victims all respondents were treated respectfully.
Now, what does " ... you go all James O’Brien on people ..." mean? | | | |
| Progressive nationalism in action on 00:40 - May 30 with 670 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Progressive nationalism in action on 00:30 - May 30 by XYZ |
I was asking about your specific comment, not about other stuff.
Is it wrong to ask you to justify your comment?
" ... you go all James O’Brien on people ..."
What does this mean?
Is it just that he asks that you justify your comment?
If so, what's your problem with that?
There was a thread asking people who voted tory in 2019 to justify their actions - I started it. Despite some abuse from the usual misogynistic suspects that self-identify as victims all respondents were treated respectfully.
Now, what does " ... you go all James O’Brien on people ..." mean? |
Not sure if reading is an issue for you?
Constantly imposing his world view in a self righteous tone, telling people what they should and shouldn’t eat etc, although seems to go a little further with the extra name calling those that don’t agree.
Oh you started it eh? That’s why you’re lurking here in the middle of the night itching for a row I guess. | | | |
| Progressive nationalism in action on 00:50 - May 30 with 657 views | XYZ |
| Progressive nationalism in action on 00:40 - May 30 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Not sure if reading is an issue for you?
Constantly imposing his world view in a self righteous tone, telling people what they should and shouldn’t eat etc, although seems to go a little further with the extra name calling those that don’t agree.
Oh you started it eh? That’s why you’re lurking here in the middle of the night itching for a row I guess. |
I'm writing about you, not him.
Your words, not his.
The only row is you avoiding a straight question.
" ... you go all James O’Brien on people ..."
What's that, then?
Third time I've asked a simple question ... | | | |
| Progressive nationalism in action on 00:52 - May 30 with 650 views | XYZ |
| Progressive nationalism in action on 00:40 - May 30 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Not sure if reading is an issue for you?
Constantly imposing his world view in a self righteous tone, telling people what they should and shouldn’t eat etc, although seems to go a little further with the extra name calling those that don’t agree.
Oh you started it eh? That’s why you’re lurking here in the middle of the night itching for a row I guess. |
"you’re lurking here in the middle of the night itching for a row I guess."
What's your reason for being here?
Big fat lol. | | | |
| Progressive nationalism in action on 00:54 - May 30 with 647 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Progressive nationalism in action on 00:50 - May 30 by XYZ |
I'm writing about you, not him.
Your words, not his.
The only row is you avoiding a straight question.
" ... you go all James O’Brien on people ..."
What's that, then?
Third time I've asked a simple question ... |
Well it wasn’t even addressed you was it but in any case you can scroll up and read it twice.
You make a good pair though, he demands an explanation of what you eat, you demand an explanation of how you vote. | | | |
| Progressive nationalism in action on 00:58 - May 30 with 642 views | XYZ |
| Progressive nationalism in action on 00:54 - May 30 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Well it wasn’t even addressed you was it but in any case you can scroll up and read it twice.
You make a good pair though, he demands an explanation of what you eat, you demand an explanation of how you vote. |
Unable or incapable of justifying what you wrote.
" ... you go all James O’Brien on people ..."
What's that, then?
Fourth chance to address it.
What's the next deflection? | | | |
| Progressive nationalism in action on 01:03 - May 30 with 627 views | XYZ |
| Progressive nationalism in action on 00:54 - May 30 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Well it wasn’t even addressed you was it but in any case you can scroll up and read it twice.
You make a good pair though, he demands an explanation of what you eat, you demand an explanation of how you vote. |
"you demand an explanation of how you vote."
Is this really unreasonable?
Personally. I've always been quite happy to explain why and how I voted.
Are you ashamed about the way you've voted? | | | |
| Progressive nationalism in action on 01:19 - May 30 with 617 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Progressive nationalism in action on 01:03 - May 30 by XYZ |
"you demand an explanation of how you vote."
Is this really unreasonable?
Personally. I've always been quite happy to explain why and how I voted.
Are you ashamed about the way you've voted? |
No I’m not. Although it just shows your mentality of trying attack someone on a message board if they didn’t vote the same way. What the hell has it got to do with you who anyone else votes for? It’s a personal choice and no one owes anyone an explanation, especially not on a football forum where a load of people armed to the teeth with Guardian articles are lining up to shame the accused.
But as some of the replies stated, frankly they deserve it etc.
Anyway I’m off out for dinner on this sunny Sunday bank holiday. Don’t stay so angry it’s not good for the MH and the good news is you live in a democracy anyway so there’s always a chance to get them out soon enough!
Cheers | | | |
| Progressive nationalism in action on 01:27 - May 30 with 593 views | XYZ |
| Progressive nationalism in action on 01:19 - May 30 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
No I’m not. Although it just shows your mentality of trying attack someone on a message board if they didn’t vote the same way. What the hell has it got to do with you who anyone else votes for? It’s a personal choice and no one owes anyone an explanation, especially not on a football forum where a load of people armed to the teeth with Guardian articles are lining up to shame the accused.
But as some of the replies stated, frankly they deserve it etc.
Anyway I’m off out for dinner on this sunny Sunday bank holiday. Don’t stay so angry it’s not good for the MH and the good news is you live in a democracy anyway so there’s always a chance to get them out soon enough!
Cheers |
Lol. No answer.
Carry on no answer no values champ.
Full time failure.
No mark. | | | |
| Progressive nationalism in action on 01:31 - May 30 with 590 views | XYZ |
| Progressive nationalism in action on 01:19 - May 30 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
No I’m not. Although it just shows your mentality of trying attack someone on a message board if they didn’t vote the same way. What the hell has it got to do with you who anyone else votes for? It’s a personal choice and no one owes anyone an explanation, especially not on a football forum where a load of people armed to the teeth with Guardian articles are lining up to shame the accused.
But as some of the replies stated, frankly they deserve it etc.
Anyway I’m off out for dinner on this sunny Sunday bank holiday. Don’t stay so angry it’s not good for the MH and the good news is you live in a democracy anyway so there’s always a chance to get them out soon enough!
Cheers |
Ooof. Hurt badly?
Enjoy the dinner.
Tell them a lib beat you up badly.
Try answering a straight question with a straight answer next time.
You butt might feel less hurt. | | | |
| Progressive nationalism in action on 01:40 - May 30 with 584 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Progressive nationalism in action on 01:31 - May 30 by XYZ |
Ooof. Hurt badly?
Enjoy the dinner.
Tell them a lib beat you up badly.
Try answering a straight question with a straight answer next time.
You butt might feel less hurt. |
Mate try and get the anger replies into one post please! I know you must be furiously tapping away at 2am on a school night to get the last one in and all that. Don’t think political discourse was even mentioned in this exchange to get “beaten up”, just pointing out the behavior of your ilk on here, which you’ve proved, nicely.
Thanks I will, Rioja Blanco is arriving.
Enjoy the week “no mark”. | | | |
| Progressive nationalism in action on 10:20 - May 30 with 473 views | Darth_Koont |
| Progressive nationalism in action on 23:10 - May 29 by tractordownsouth |
It’s fine, I’m big enough to take it. I still don’t agree with the counter points made on this thread, but that’s life - I’ve been wrong on plenty before and maybe I’ll change my mind on the issue one day, who knows.
Like other posters have said, if DK and Callis are incapable of arguing their case without resorting to insults and saying that anyone who dares to disagree with them is thick then that’s their problem, not mine. |
You’re doubling and tripling down on exactly the sort of disingenuous and smeary politicking that makes our politics so unbearable. Of course, you’re going to get “abuse”.
I thought the “abuse” was pretty restrained considering. 😀 |  |
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| Progressive nationalism in action on 10:42 - May 30 with 459 views | monytowbray |
| Progressive nationalism in action on 23:10 - May 29 by tractordownsouth |
It’s fine, I’m big enough to take it. I still don’t agree with the counter points made on this thread, but that’s life - I’ve been wrong on plenty before and maybe I’ll change my mind on the issue one day, who knows.
Like other posters have said, if DK and Callis are incapable of arguing their case without resorting to insults and saying that anyone who dares to disagree with them is thick then that’s their problem, not mine. |
I argued my case fine. I got a but sh1tty because the level of disingenuous is off the chart. Regardless of that you’ve still failed to reply to any point made.
You also implied anyone who disagrees wants poor people to die, so there’s that. | |
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| Progressive nationalism in action on 10:43 - May 30 with 456 views | monytowbray |
| Progressive nationalism in action on 00:40 - May 30 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Not sure if reading is an issue for you?
Constantly imposing his world view in a self righteous tone, telling people what they should and shouldn’t eat etc, although seems to go a little further with the extra name calling those that don’t agree.
Oh you started it eh? That’s why you’re lurking here in the middle of the night itching for a row I guess. |
What have you added to the thread? Nothing. Moaning about people insulting people but literally just come in to have a pop. Not even a mention of the actual matter at hand. | |
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| Progressive nationalism in action on 10:49 - May 30 with 446 views | tractordownsouth |
| Progressive nationalism in action on 10:42 - May 30 by monytowbray |
I argued my case fine. I got a but sh1tty because the level of disingenuous is off the chart. Regardless of that you’ve still failed to reply to any point made.
You also implied anyone who disagrees wants poor people to die, so there’s that. |
I did reply to your point, you just didn't like the answer I gave and then proceeded to hurl insults, as usual.
On your last point, all I said was that removing financial support from people on low incomes would inevitably push them further into poverty. But we're just going round in circles. | |
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| Progressive nationalism in action on 10:50 - May 30 with 444 views | monytowbray |
| Progressive nationalism in action on 01:40 - May 30 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Mate try and get the anger replies into one post please! I know you must be furiously tapping away at 2am on a school night to get the last one in and all that. Don’t think political discourse was even mentioned in this exchange to get “beaten up”, just pointing out the behavior of your ilk on here, which you’ve proved, nicely.
Thanks I will, Rioja Blanco is arriving.
Enjoy the week “no mark”. |
Weren’t you crying about insults on here 2 posts ago? | |
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| Progressive nationalism in action on 10:53 - May 30 with 441 views | monytowbray |
| Progressive nationalism in action on 10:49 - May 30 by tractordownsouth |
I did reply to your point, you just didn't like the answer I gave and then proceeded to hurl insults, as usual.
On your last point, all I said was that removing financial support from people on low incomes would inevitably push them further into poverty. But we're just going round in circles. |
You didn’t though, you just kept repeating the lie. Saying it over and over doesn’t make it true.
What you claim she said isn’t being said. The context and implications of what you claim she said is not the context and implications of what was said.
The last part is then the next step from the first lie, making it an even bigger lie.
You’ve been told this by multiple posters. And I’m now at the point where I take back
GB News presenter comments, you’re verging on Trump logic now. [Post edited 30 May 2022 10:55]
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