| Tory Resignations Thread: Day 2 08:16 - Jul 6 with 5905 views | Steve_M |
There may be a lot today as well:
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| Tory Resignations Thread: Day 2 on 12:16 - Jul 6 with 1006 views | ringwoodblue |
I don’t trust any politicians irrespective of the political party they represent. At the end of the day, most of them are liars who put their own interests ahead of others. Explains why I haven’t voted for 20 years with the exception of the Brexit referendum.
I’m sure there are some good honest hard-working politicians around but not enough of them. |  |
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| Tory Resignations Thread: Day 2 on 12:18 - Jul 6 with 999 views | Steve_M |
Starmer going full on prosecutor was very good, Johnson's bluster in the face of a graphic description of sexual assault was really grim.
The Charge of the Lightweight Brigade line was good too. The faces of Dorries and Raab:
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| Tory Resignations Thread: Day 2 on 13:06 - Jul 6 with 908 views | Chrisd |
| Tory Resignations Thread: Day 2 on 12:18 - Jul 6 by Steve_M |
Starmer going full on prosecutor was very good, Johnson's bluster in the face of a graphic description of sexual assault was really grim.
The Charge of the Lightweight Brigade line was good too. The faces of Dorries and Raab:
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Thought Sajid Javid’s personal statement hit the nail on the head perfectly. |  |
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| Tory Resignations Thread: Day 2 on 13:41 - Jul 6 with 860 views | HARRY10 |
"Thought Sajid Javid’s personal statement hit the nail on the head perfectly. "
me sir, I can be PM
He, as with others, have had three years to make that speech. Johnson's character was known and repeatedly shown, over his career up to becoming PM.
Did it matter to Javid then, that Johnson was a lazy, lying incompetent ?
Trying to excuse his behaviour by repeated claims of 'giving him the benefit of the doubt' won't wash. How many times in that speech did Javid say he had given Johnson the benefit of the doubt ?
If the Tories can boot of the walrus of waffle before the summer recess, there is a chance of clearing out this whole menagerie of third raters, failures and toadies.
It is a case of how long do you wait before amputating a gangerous leg | | | |
| Tory Resignations Thread: Day 2 on 13:43 - Jul 6 with 850 views | STYG |
| Tory Resignations Thread: Day 2 on 12:16 - Jul 6 by ringwoodblue |
I don’t trust any politicians irrespective of the political party they represent. At the end of the day, most of them are liars who put their own interests ahead of others. Explains why I haven’t voted for 20 years with the exception of the Brexit referendum.
I’m sure there are some good honest hard-working politicians around but not enough of them. |
I used to share your views but came to realise.
There are a large number of politicians who are genuinely in it to do good.
There are a larger number of politicians who are genuinely in it to do good that don't turn down some of the perks that come with it.
There are a massive number of politicians who have no interest in doing good and it's all about how they can monetise it for themselves and their mates.
You just have to do a bit of proper looking to find the first group and then realise that the best you can hope to vote into power is probably the middle group, because those solely in the first group are never likely to rise to power without having accepted becoming the second group. | | | |
| Tory Resignations Thread: Day 2 on 13:46 - Jul 6 with 843 views | hype313 |
| Tory Resignations Thread: Day 2 on 13:41 - Jul 6 by HARRY10 |
"Thought Sajid Javid’s personal statement hit the nail on the head perfectly. "
me sir, I can be PM
He, as with others, have had three years to make that speech. Johnson's character was known and repeatedly shown, over his career up to becoming PM.
Did it matter to Javid then, that Johnson was a lazy, lying incompetent ?
Trying to excuse his behaviour by repeated claims of 'giving him the benefit of the doubt' won't wash. How many times in that speech did Javid say he had given Johnson the benefit of the doubt ?
If the Tories can boot of the walrus of waffle before the summer recess, there is a chance of clearing out this whole menagerie of third raters, failures and toadies.
It is a case of how long do you wait before amputating a gangerous leg |
Interestingly, whilst all of what you say is relevant, I was listening to a podcast with Rory Stewart and he said the only one in the cabinet with any backbone or morality was Javid.
He's just finished the cabinet in that speech, Raab looked like me sat when Norwich put 5 past us at home. |  |
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| Tory Resignations Thread: Day 2 on 13:51 - Jul 6 with 816 views | STYG |
| Tory Resignations Thread: Day 2 on 13:41 - Jul 6 by HARRY10 |
"Thought Sajid Javid’s personal statement hit the nail on the head perfectly. "
me sir, I can be PM
He, as with others, have had three years to make that speech. Johnson's character was known and repeatedly shown, over his career up to becoming PM.
Did it matter to Javid then, that Johnson was a lazy, lying incompetent ?
Trying to excuse his behaviour by repeated claims of 'giving him the benefit of the doubt' won't wash. How many times in that speech did Javid say he had given Johnson the benefit of the doubt ?
If the Tories can boot of the walrus of waffle before the summer recess, there is a chance of clearing out this whole menagerie of third raters, failures and toadies.
It is a case of how long do you wait before amputating a gangerous leg |
As I said earlier, it's like the one out of all your kidnappers that brings you water and a sandwich.
They are still complicit in plotting the kidnap, bundling you into a van, tying you up and beating you. But they are then to be applauded for not wanting to go quite as far as the others, when all they are doing is getting ready for a plea bargain by going to the cops and grassing up the others if they agree to go easy on them. | | | |
| Tory Resignations Thread: Day 2 on 13:54 - Jul 6 with 794 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Tory Resignations Thread: Day 2 on 11:42 - Jul 6 by BlueBadger |
Oh man, imagine being the poor chump at central office being designated THIS gig today. I'd feel sorry for you, but you're still trying to prop up a bunch of failing bigoted and corrupt incompetents who are criminally inclined. |
Don’t knock that gig. I had it for years. |  |
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| Tory Resignations Thread: Day 2 on 13:54 - Jul 6 with 796 views | STYG |
| Tory Resignations Thread: Day 2 on 13:46 - Jul 6 by hype313 |
Interestingly, whilst all of what you say is relevant, I was listening to a podcast with Rory Stewart and he said the only one in the cabinet with any backbone or morality was Javid.
He's just finished the cabinet in that speech, Raab looked like me sat when Norwich put 5 past us at home. |
The only Tory I've ever had time for is Stewart. He said he'd resign if Boris was made PM and then did so.
He speaks eleven languages, has real world experience, was a soldier (so prepared to put himself in harms way) and does charity work. Perhaps my favourite thing about him was that 'he attended a single meeting of the Bullingdon Club before resigning after witnessing the behaviour of other members'.
Clearly a different sort from the usual Tory. No doubt that's why they chose Boris over him. [Post edited 6 Jul 2022 13:57]
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| Tory Resignations Thread: Day 2 on 13:55 - Jul 6 with 793 views | StokieBlue |
3 more PPS have resigned in the last 15 minutes.
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| Tory Resignations Thread: Day 2 on 13:57 - Jul 6 with 779 views | Chrisd |
| Tory Resignations Thread: Day 2 on 13:41 - Jul 6 by HARRY10 |
"Thought Sajid Javid’s personal statement hit the nail on the head perfectly. "
me sir, I can be PM
He, as with others, have had three years to make that speech. Johnson's character was known and repeatedly shown, over his career up to becoming PM.
Did it matter to Javid then, that Johnson was a lazy, lying incompetent ?
Trying to excuse his behaviour by repeated claims of 'giving him the benefit of the doubt' won't wash. How many times in that speech did Javid say he had given Johnson the benefit of the doubt ?
If the Tories can boot of the walrus of waffle before the summer recess, there is a chance of clearing out this whole menagerie of third raters, failures and toadies.
It is a case of how long do you wait before amputating a gangerous leg |
Quite possibly, but let’s not pretend any other MPs regardless of their political stance aren’t in it for themselves. I must admit, I was saying the same as you last night, they know what BJ is like, why continually back him when they know what’s happening and turn a blind eye to certain things? For me, Javid’s personal message hit the right note and set the correct tone, it summed up how the nation is now feeling about BJ and this Tory party under his leadership and whether it is for personal gain he still delivered it in manner which is in keeping with many up and down our country. | |
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| Tory Resignations Thread: Day 2 on 13:58 - Jul 6 with 774 views | hype313 |
| Tory Resignations Thread: Day 2 on 13:55 - Jul 6 by StokieBlue |
3 more PPS have resigned in the last 15 minutes.
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Think it's going to need a few more in the Cabinet to fall before Boris really wakes up and smells the coffee.
In the meantime, he's having his ego massaged by the likes of JRM and that awful woman Dorries. | |
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| Tory Resignations Thread: Day 2 on 13:59 - Jul 6 with 770 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
Penny Mordaunt seems to be bookies fave for the next Tory leader.
You can also get 500/1 on Farage… | | | |
| Tory Resignations Thread: Day 2 on 14:01 - Jul 6 with 759 views | StokieBlue |
| Tory Resignations Thread: Day 2 on 13:58 - Jul 6 by hype313 |
Think it's going to need a few more in the Cabinet to fall before Boris really wakes up and smells the coffee.
In the meantime, he's having his ego massaged by the likes of JRM and that awful woman Dorries. |
Gove is in hiding, wasn't on the front bench for PMQs.
I think Brady might have a word with Boris later, 1922 committee saying they will change the rules tonight.
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| Tory Resignations Thread: Day 2 on 14:02 - Jul 6 with 750 views | giant_stow |
| Tory Resignations Thread: Day 2 on 14:01 - Jul 6 by StokieBlue |
Gove is in hiding, wasn't on the front bench for PMQs.
I think Brady might have a word with Boris later, 1922 committee saying they will change the rules tonight.
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Sure we've all seen this, but...
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| Tory Resignations Thread: Day 2 on 14:02 - Jul 6 with 747 views | hype313 |
| Tory Resignations Thread: Day 2 on 14:01 - Jul 6 by StokieBlue |
Gove is in hiding, wasn't on the front bench for PMQs.
I think Brady might have a word with Boris later, 1922 committee saying they will change the rules tonight.
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Gove, Mordaunt and Eustice have all been conspicuous in their absence. | |
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| Tory Resignations Thread: Day 2 on 14:05 - Jul 6 with 732 views | GeoffSentence |
| Tory Resignations Thread: Day 2 on 13:43 - Jul 6 by STYG |
I used to share your views but came to realise.
There are a large number of politicians who are genuinely in it to do good.
There are a larger number of politicians who are genuinely in it to do good that don't turn down some of the perks that come with it.
There are a massive number of politicians who have no interest in doing good and it's all about how they can monetise it for themselves and their mates.
You just have to do a bit of proper looking to find the first group and then realise that the best you can hope to vote into power is probably the middle group, because those solely in the first group are never likely to rise to power without having accepted becoming the second group. |
"There are a massive number of politicians who have no interest in doing good and it's all about how they can monetise it for themselves and their mates."
Currently there are 358 of those ones. |  |
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| Tory Resignations Thread: Day 2 on 14:08 - Jul 6 with 707 views | StokieBlue |
| Tory Resignations Thread: Day 2 on 14:02 - Jul 6 by giant_stow |
Sure we've all seen this, but...
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I don't believe he has a choice, if he loses the vote he's no longer leader of the Tories and given they are the largest party he's no longer PM.
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| Tory Resignations Thread: Day 2 on 14:15 - Jul 6 with 669 views | giant_stow |
| Tory Resignations Thread: Day 2 on 14:08 - Jul 6 by StokieBlue |
I don't believe he has a choice, if he loses the vote he's no longer leader of the Tories and given they are the largest party he's no longer PM.
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I honestly wouldn't know what their rules are, but its a little unnerving all the same! | |
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| Tory Resignations Thread: Day 2 on 14:29 - Jul 6 with 630 views | Steve_M |
| Tory Resignations Thread: Day 2 on 14:02 - Jul 6 by hype313 |
Gove, Mordaunt and Eustice have all been conspicuous in their absence. |
Yes, Gove's absence is notable. Still, here's a few more:
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| Tory Resignations Thread: Day 2 on 14:32 - Jul 6 with 620 views | EastTownBlue |
Just the five more in one letter…
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| Tory Resignations Thread: Day 2 on 14:40 - Jul 6 with 609 views | BlueBoots |
| Tory Resignations Thread: Day 2 on 13:57 - Jul 6 by Chrisd |
Quite possibly, but let’s not pretend any other MPs regardless of their political stance aren’t in it for themselves. I must admit, I was saying the same as you last night, they know what BJ is like, why continually back him when they know what’s happening and turn a blind eye to certain things? For me, Javid’s personal message hit the right note and set the correct tone, it summed up how the nation is now feeling about BJ and this Tory party under his leadership and whether it is for personal gain he still delivered it in manner which is in keeping with many up and down our country. |
"I'm not arguing that there are no decent people in the Tory Party," "But they're like bits of sweetcorn in a turd; technically they have kept their integrity, but they are still embedded in sh1t." |  |
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| Tory Resignations Thread: Day 2 on 14:41 - Jul 6 with 604 views | StokieBlue |
| Tory Resignations Thread: Day 2 on 14:40 - Jul 6 by BlueBoots |
"I'm not arguing that there are no decent people in the Tory Party," "But they're like bits of sweetcorn in a turd; technically they have kept their integrity, but they are still embedded in sh1t." |
You need to attribute it to the great author.
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| Tory Resignations Thread: Day 2 on 14:42 - Jul 6 with 599 views | HARRY10 |
| Tory Resignations Thread: Day 2 on 14:15 - Jul 6 by giant_stow |
I honestly wouldn't know what their rules are, but its a little unnerving all the same! |
He would be crippled, as all it would take was for enough Tories to vote against, or simply abstain in any legislative vote.
Any confidence motion put forward in the house risks the 14 day 'grace period' falling into the summer recess.
The problem the Tories have is that Johnson is not the brightest. Strip away the idiot props and you have someone on par, brainwise, with Dorries, Rees-Mogg or Fabricant.
Anyone else would see that the game was long up, and would get out on good terms. The problem is many, elevated to a position way above their abilities, have a habit of believing their own publicity. And surrounding yourself with sycophants (as above) only furthers that delusion.
The longer this lasts the more damage gets done to the Tory Party, and what is left of the boaters limited reputation...........what a shame  [Post edited 6 Jul 2022 14:54]
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| Tory Resignations Thread: Day 2 on 14:58 - Jul 6 with 569 views | BlueBoots |
| Tory Resignations Thread: Day 2 on 14:41 - Jul 6 by StokieBlue |
You need to attribute it to the great author.
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Happily - thank you Iain Banks | |
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