| Basically Mark Ashton has played a blinder... 12:27 - Jul 15 with 6991 views | Kieran_Knows |
... knew Stoke wouldn't get the work permit, and we'll now get Celina cheaper as Dijon just want him off their books.
Good work. |  |
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| Basically Mark Ashton has played a blinder... on 13:58 - Jul 15 with 1500 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Basically Mark Ashton has played a blinder... on 12:32 - Jul 15 by SaigonTractor |
Big assumption that this was some sort of master plan. |
Definitely a possibility tho. Ashton spoke of in depth talks with lawyers about work permits etc. You'd imagine they'd have told him to not worry about other UK clubs. |  |
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| Basically Mark Ashton has played a blinder... on 14:10 - Jul 15 with 1477 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
He's an evil genius! |  |
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| Basically Mark Ashton has played a blinder... on 14:22 - Jul 15 with 1460 views | itfcsuth |
Interesting Stuart Watson reporting was not as advanced with Stoke in the first place.
Turkey the biggest competition.
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| Basically Mark Ashton has played a blinder... on 14:27 - Jul 15 with 1422 views | SaigonTractor |
| Basically Mark Ashton has played a blinder... on 13:58 - Jul 15 by FrimleyBlue |
Definitely a possibility tho. Ashton spoke of in depth talks with lawyers about work permits etc. You'd imagine they'd have told him to not worry about other UK clubs. |
It's possible. But I can't imagine Ashton would know without any other English clubs knowing. |  | | |
| Basically Mark Ashton has played a blinder... on 14:38 - Jul 15 with 1396 views | Garv |
| Basically Mark Ashton has played a blinder... on 12:55 - Jul 15 by SaigonTractor |
Yes. We deserve to be here based on the last decade, but that doesn't mean we should be here. |
Bournemouth probably shouldn't be in the PL, but they are.
The divisions don't lie. |  |
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| Basically Mark Ashton has played a blinder... on 14:50 - Jul 15 with 1359 views | PrideOfTheEast |
| Basically Mark Ashton has played a blinder... on 13:32 - Jul 15 by STYG |
It was a weird one.
We were great in three of those games but I don't think we were that impressive in many of the others. Team seemed to give us way too much respect and it was that Doncaster / Accrington double header (or was it Rotherham / Accrington?) when teams realised we couldn't compete physically and we just got bullied and outplayed often from there. |
I don't really remember us playing well, other than Sunderland at home.
It all went to pot when we started rotating across the pitch, including the GK. The discipline (or lack of it) once we started losing was incredible. Genuinely embarrassing. |  | | |
| Basically Mark Ashton has played a blinder... on 14:52 - Jul 15 with 1341 views | STYG |
| Basically Mark Ashton has played a blinder... on 14:50 - Jul 15 by PrideOfTheEast |
I don't really remember us playing well, other than Sunderland at home.
It all went to pot when we started rotating across the pitch, including the GK. The discipline (or lack of it) once we started losing was incredible. Genuinely embarrassing. |
Tranmere we thumped and we were very good second half and again against Shrewsbury we played really well for about 35-40 minutes.
Bolton we were playing kids and I think it was only 1-0 at the break.
But of those 11 games I remember thinking at the time we've only played well a few times and we've not got out of first gear and when we do we will blow teams away. We were on 27 points and were something like 5 clear of 3rd already and just seemed if we started to play really well we'd be out of sight.
That fairly average start performances wise was the best levels we reached all season. | | | |
| Basically Mark Ashton has played a blinder... on 15:01 - Jul 15 with 1322 views | PhilTWTD |
| Basically Mark Ashton has played a blinder... on 14:22 - Jul 15 by itfcsuth |
Interesting Stuart Watson reporting was not as advanced with Stoke in the first place.
Turkey the biggest competition.
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With all due respect to Stu, that's not the case. Stoke were very much frontrunners until the last day or so when the work permit situation emerged. |  | | |
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| Basically Mark Ashton has played a blinder... on 15:09 - Jul 15 with 1289 views | PhilTWTD |
| Basically Mark Ashton has played a blinder... on 13:24 - Jul 15 by tractorboy1978 |
Issue isn't with Celina, it is Dijon as I understand it. |
No, as far as I'm aware Dijon situation sorted. That had been a sticking point a while back though. Am guessing that they've wanted a flat figure for him - which I think has been agreed with Town, Stoke and the Turkish clubs - and clubs then have to agree terms with the player. Stoke met what was wanted, which was why they raced to the head of the race. | | | |
| Basically Mark Ashton has played a blinder... on 15:16 - Jul 15 with 1229 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Basically Mark Ashton has played a blinder... on 15:09 - Jul 15 by PhilTWTD |
No, as far as I'm aware Dijon situation sorted. That had been a sticking point a while back though. Am guessing that they've wanted a flat figure for him - which I think has been agreed with Town, Stoke and the Turkish clubs - and clubs then have to agree terms with the player. Stoke met what was wanted, which was why they raced to the head of the race. |
Ah so celina is being a greedy buger then. | |
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| Basically Mark Ashton has played a blinder... on 15:19 - Jul 15 with 1241 views | PhilTWTD |
| Basically Mark Ashton has played a blinder... on 15:16 - Jul 15 by FrimleyBlue |
Ah so celina is being a greedy buger then. |
Not fair to say that. If you're offered more money at Club A than Club B then anyone is going to favour Club A or ask Club B to match what Club A is offering. I think it's that sort of scenario. | | | |
| Basically Mark Ashton has played a blinder... on 15:21 - Jul 15 with 1215 views | abracaDOBRA_ |
| Basically Mark Ashton has played a blinder... on 15:19 - Jul 15 by PhilTWTD |
Not fair to say that. If you're offered more money at Club A than Club B then anyone is going to favour Club A or ask Club B to match what Club A is offering. I think it's that sort of scenario. |
Am i right in saying he cannot sign for another english club now other than us? So essentially is us or turkey atm? |  | | |
| Basically Mark Ashton has played a blinder... on 15:25 - Jul 15 with 1186 views | OldFart71 |
The debate about whether we should be where we are rambles on. Answer = Of course we do. Largely due to poor managers and an even poorer owner in the form of M.E. But and there's a big but and I'm not talking about Carol Vorderman, if we fail this year neither will be to blame. It is of course still the managers responsibility to set the team up correctly, but ultimately it is now down to the players. We have better players than most, better owners than most and a better support than most. None of these guarantee success and as we know we will have more pressure on us to deliver than most. The expectation and no doubt we will hear the same old drivel from opposing managers saying we should be at the top and that if they get a point against us then it's a lap around Wembley Stadium for their heroes. But we must put this to one side and get on with the job in hand and everyone must pull together. | | | |
| Basically Mark Ashton has played a blinder... on 15:27 - Jul 15 with 1160 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Basically Mark Ashton has played a blinder... on 15:19 - Jul 15 by PhilTWTD |
Not fair to say that. If you're offered more money at Club A than Club B then anyone is going to favour Club A or ask Club B to match what Club A is offering. I think it's that sort of scenario. |
Depends imo. If you've said and want to be seen as wanting to play for club A, choosing club B because they offer more money shows what your actual interests are. | |
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| Basically Mark Ashton has played a blinder... on 15:35 - Jul 15 with 1139 views | PrideOfTheEast |
| Basically Mark Ashton has played a blinder... on 15:27 - Jul 15 by FrimleyBlue |
Depends imo. If you've said and want to be seen as wanting to play for club A, choosing club B because they offer more money shows what your actual interests are. |
Not really. If there was 500 quid a week in it then yes sure but doubt that's the case. Like anybody he has to look after himself, so whilst he might want to come here he won't unless we're paying him what he thinks he's worth, and basically what he can get elsewhere. | | | |
| Basically Mark Ashton has played a blinder... on 15:45 - Jul 15 with 1090 views | MaySixth |
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| Basically Mark Ashton has played a blinder... on 15:50 - Jul 15 with 1083 views | ChateauWines |
| Basically Mark Ashton has played a blinder... on 13:32 - Jul 15 by STYG |
It was a weird one.
We were great in three of those games but I don't think we were that impressive in many of the others. Team seemed to give us way too much respect and it was that Doncaster / Accrington double header (or was it Rotherham / Accrington?) when teams realised we couldn't compete physically and we just got bullied and outplayed often from there. |
I remember the hand holding team fist pump at Gillingham. Cringed watching it. Showed utter arrogance and nil respect for other clubs. Then we went to Accrington and they just got in our faces and bullied us. Every team thereafter did just that | |
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| Basically Mark Ashton has played a blinder... on 16:28 - Jul 15 with 985 views | STYG |
| Basically Mark Ashton has played a blinder... on 16:12 - Jul 15 by jaykay |
what he not going to stoke ? i'm sure i read on here some body with a couple of stoke friends said it was done and dusty.
mind you if we we signing a player from dalbeattie star some one from here would have a friend who supporter them and had the download on said player  [Post edited 15 Jul 2022 16:13]
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My mate Geoff Infoh is the player liaison officer at Dalbeattie Star. I'll ask him. [Post edited 15 Jul 2022 16:29]
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| Basically Mark Ashton has played a blinder... on 17:09 - Jul 15 with 894 views | berkstractorboy |
| Basically Mark Ashton has played a blinder... on 15:09 - Jul 15 by PhilTWTD |
No, as far as I'm aware Dijon situation sorted. That had been a sticking point a while back though. Am guessing that they've wanted a flat figure for him - which I think has been agreed with Town, Stoke and the Turkish clubs - and clubs then have to agree terms with the player. Stoke met what was wanted, which was why they raced to the head of the race. |
That's promising it's in our hands to do then rather than being in a complex battle with Dijon . Let's hope Turkish teams are not outbidding us. Am sure player wants this sorted now to get ready for a season here or in Turkey! | | | |
| Basically Mark Ashton has played a blinder... on 17:16 - Jul 15 with 871 views | PhilTWTD |
| Basically Mark Ashton has played a blinder... on 15:21 - Jul 15 by abracaDOBRA_ |
Am i right in saying he cannot sign for another english club now other than us? So essentially is us or turkey atm? |
Yes, or clubs in other countries which might come in for him, of course. | | | |
| Basically Mark Ashton has played a blinder... on 17:22 - Jul 15 with 848 views | Parky |
| Basically Mark Ashton has played a blinder... on 15:09 - Jul 15 by PhilTWTD |
No, as far as I'm aware Dijon situation sorted. That had been a sticking point a while back though. Am guessing that they've wanted a flat figure for him - which I think has been agreed with Town, Stoke and the Turkish clubs - and clubs then have to agree terms with the player. Stoke met what was wanted, which was why they raced to the head of the race. |
Do you think that then essentially rules us out? I can’t imagine Mark Ashton going back to Celina with a counter offer, especially now he knows Celina can’t sign for another club in the UK.
I imagine the offer is still open for Celina to accept, but can see Ashton sticking to his guns. | | | |
| Basically Mark Ashton has played a blinder... on 17:28 - Jul 15 with 832 views | mjw_1983 |
But why would they fail to get a work permit if ITFC will be able too? |  | | |
| Basically Mark Ashton has played a blinder... on 17:30 - Jul 15 with 819 views | abracaDOBRA_ |
| Basically Mark Ashton has played a blinder... on 17:16 - Jul 15 by PhilTWTD |
Yes, or clubs in other countries which might come in for him, of course. |
I reckon the OP is right. Ashton would’ve known this, went in low with the offer, let santi explore his options, knowing full well ipswich we’re the only English club he could sign for. Let’s just hope turkey isn’t appealing to him. | | | |
| Basically Mark Ashton has played a blinder... on 17:33 - Jul 15 with 816 views | PhilTWTD |
| Basically Mark Ashton has played a blinder... on 17:28 - Jul 15 by mjw_1983 |
But why would they fail to get a work permit if ITFC will be able too? |
Because effectively coming back to Town is continuing his employment on the work permit he had last season rather than having to apply for a new one. | | | |
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