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Hopefully people will be a bit more streetwise when… on 14:28 - Jul 26 by bluelagos
So legislate and have a designated pyro area and a non pyro area? Everyone is happy - except the kill joys.
The pyros would stop once the attention was no longer on them and it sinks in they are missing half the game they've paid good money to see that everyone else is enjoying!
Hopefully people will be a bit more streetwise when… on 14:41 - Jul 26 by jeera
The pyros would stop once the attention was no longer on them and it sinks in they are missing half the game they've paid good money to see that everyone else is enjoying!
Another thing that makes me smile is remembering what footie was like back in the day.
I remember watching the towen from the North as a teen and being happy if I saw a goal. I reckon at least half the goals at Portman Rd I'd simply see the back of someone's head and only know it was a goal from the roar, surge etc.
Hopefully people will be a bit more streetwise when… on 13:40 - Jul 26 by bluelagos
Lucan works in the business and is well versed on the types of pyro available and the legalities.
For those who care what the law is (which I imagine is probably the same group as those who don't bring anything questionable into grounds in the first place), the Football Safety Officers Association have produced a fact sheet, which is pretty comprehensive whilst also being very simply to understand. It doesn't really use the language of the legislation, but it does the job of explaining to ordinary punters what activities are crimes. The web address is here:
I would also comment that those who purport to understand the distinction between different types of devices often do not, and may well never have bothered to read the legislation which they are purporting to explain. Section 2A of the Sporting Events (Control of Alcohol etc.) Act 1985 is below. It is pretty broadly drafted, and clearly covers what in highly technical parlance might be described as "those new fangled thingies that emit coloured smoke".
"2A Fireworks etc. (1)A person is guilty of an offence if he has an article or substance to which this section applies in his possession– (a)at any time during the period of a designated sporting event when he is in any area of a designated sports ground from which the event may be directly viewed, or (b)while entering or trying to enter a designated sports ground at any time during the period of a designated sporting event at the ground. (2)It is a defence for the accused to prove that he had possession with lawful authority. (3)This section applies to any article or substance whose main purpose is the emission of a flare for purposes of illuminating or signalling (as opposed to igniting or heating) or the emission of smoke or a visible gas; and in particular it applies to distress flares, fog signals, and pellets and capsules intended to be used as fumigators or for testing pipes, but not to matches, cigarette lighters or heaters. (4)This section also applies to any article which is a firework."
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Hopefully people will be a bit more streetwise when… on 15:22 - Jul 26 with 1004 views
Hopefully people will be a bit more streetwise when… on 15:02 - Jul 26 by HighgateBlue
For those who care what the law is (which I imagine is probably the same group as those who don't bring anything questionable into grounds in the first place), the Football Safety Officers Association have produced a fact sheet, which is pretty comprehensive whilst also being very simply to understand. It doesn't really use the language of the legislation, but it does the job of explaining to ordinary punters what activities are crimes. The web address is here:
I would also comment that those who purport to understand the distinction between different types of devices often do not, and may well never have bothered to read the legislation which they are purporting to explain. Section 2A of the Sporting Events (Control of Alcohol etc.) Act 1985 is below. It is pretty broadly drafted, and clearly covers what in highly technical parlance might be described as "those new fangled thingies that emit coloured smoke".
"2A Fireworks etc. (1)A person is guilty of an offence if he has an article or substance to which this section applies in his possession– (a)at any time during the period of a designated sporting event when he is in any area of a designated sports ground from which the event may be directly viewed, or (b)while entering or trying to enter a designated sports ground at any time during the period of a designated sporting event at the ground. (2)It is a defence for the accused to prove that he had possession with lawful authority. (3)This section applies to any article or substance whose main purpose is the emission of a flare for purposes of illuminating or signalling (as opposed to igniting or heating) or the emission of smoke or a visible gas; and in particular it applies to distress flares, fog signals, and pellets and capsules intended to be used as fumigators or for testing pipes, but not to matches, cigarette lighters or heaters. (4)This section also applies to any article which is a firework."
Do you need to have a login to access the doc? Not linking for me.
Hopefully people will be a bit more streetwise when… on 15:02 - Jul 26 by HighgateBlue
For those who care what the law is (which I imagine is probably the same group as those who don't bring anything questionable into grounds in the first place), the Football Safety Officers Association have produced a fact sheet, which is pretty comprehensive whilst also being very simply to understand. It doesn't really use the language of the legislation, but it does the job of explaining to ordinary punters what activities are crimes. The web address is here:
I would also comment that those who purport to understand the distinction between different types of devices often do not, and may well never have bothered to read the legislation which they are purporting to explain. Section 2A of the Sporting Events (Control of Alcohol etc.) Act 1985 is below. It is pretty broadly drafted, and clearly covers what in highly technical parlance might be described as "those new fangled thingies that emit coloured smoke".
"2A Fireworks etc. (1)A person is guilty of an offence if he has an article or substance to which this section applies in his possession– (a)at any time during the period of a designated sporting event when he is in any area of a designated sports ground from which the event may be directly viewed, or (b)while entering or trying to enter a designated sports ground at any time during the period of a designated sporting event at the ground. (2)It is a defence for the accused to prove that he had possession with lawful authority. (3)This section applies to any article or substance whose main purpose is the emission of a flare for purposes of illuminating or signalling (as opposed to igniting or heating) or the emission of smoke or a visible gas; and in particular it applies to distress flares, fog signals, and pellets and capsules intended to be used as fumigators or for testing pipes, but not to matches, cigarette lighters or heaters. (4)This section also applies to any article which is a firework."
The information in that link - like most information issued by authorities is not actually correct.
So, here’s the bad news. An idiot like me is one of 13 who represent the industry in The UK to deal with issues and legislation with HSE and Trading Standards - in this field.
Ultimately it is illegal to discharge a firework or pyrotechnical article in a public place - so aside from any bullsh1t stuff about sports stadia, the law already exists anyway.
Personally - I think flares and smokes look great at football but professionally I have to advise otherwise, however, as for serious injuries, you probably have a greater chance of getting injured by a miss hit ball.
Scotgov are trying to impose additional laws about possession of such articles but all of which they seek to implement is already covered by existing law - but wee Nicola, she won’t listen!
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Hopefully people will be a bit more streetwise when… on 09:37 - Jul 27 by Lord_Lucan
I just had a flashback
Back in the day when pubs closed at 11pm the good old house party was a magical thing
... but, do you remember being told there was a party somewhere and you walk to the arse end of an estate only to find that the party doesn't exist.
Yes that happened all the time when I was a student. But then we just wandered around towns and fields tripping and smoking dope so it didn't make much difference there was no house party.
Hopefully people will be a bit more streetwise when… on 09:38 - Jul 27 by Dyland
Yes that happened all the time when I was a student. But then we just wandered around towns and fields tripping and smoking dope so it didn't make much difference there was no house party.
I'm now thinking people just didn't like me and my gang :)
Hopefully people will be a bit more streetwise when… on 09:38 - Jul 27 by Dyland
Yes that happened all the time when I was a student. But then we just wandered around towns and fields tripping and smoking dope so it didn't make much difference there was no house party.
House parties were all about timing. You had to arrive during the sweet spot. Too early or too late could be a nightmare.
Hopefully people will be a bit more streetwise when… on 09:38 - Jul 27 by Dyland
Yes that happened all the time when I was a student. But then we just wandered around towns and fields tripping and smoking dope so it didn't make much difference there was no house party.
There were no such thing as students in my day
“Hello, I'm your MP. Actually I'm not. I'm your candidate. Gosh.”
Boris Johnson canvassing in Henley, 2005.
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