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Var & Cheating 10:05 - Sep 5 with 1166 views

Is var spoiling our beautiful game
How many horrendous decisions were made this week in the Premier league even after watching the footage ref's still got it wrong.
Mendy laying there like he had been batterd by Mike Tyson in his prime.
It's completely out of hand and they should be banned for simulation
And for a better word outright cheating

Var & Cheating on 10:07 - Sep 5 with 1152 views

Swansea_Blue

Seems like those behind the cameras had a bit of a 'mare this weekend. I guess it's no surprise when we introduced VAR because the refs were so crap, but then put the same refs in charge of VAR.

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Var & Cheating on 10:09 - Sep 5 with 1143 views

unbelievablue

The biggest worry for me is fouls in the lead up to goals, like the one at Old Trafford yesterday.

My concern is that players, when they lose the ball in midfield, will go down more easily and stay down, giving VAR officials an excuse. From what I can see this is happening more and more often.

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Var & Cheating on 10:13 - Sep 5 with 1114 views

mylittletown

Crap refereeing is the root of the problem.

The degree of TV scrutiny definitely makes it harder to be a referee, these days, but some of the decisions over the weekend were too bad to be forgiven as just part of the game, and were obvious at the time.

The scrutiny will not go away.

Var & Cheating on 10:17 - Sep 5 with 1095 views

Stewart27

It’s not the technology.

It’s the idiots who are using it. I’m no West Ham fan - quite the opposite actually. But that decision was an absolute disgrace. The person responsible for that should be struck off. The ref was made to question his original decision in front of 40,000 home fans.

I think we’d have all liked VAR against Barnsley.

Var & Cheating on 10:19 - Sep 5 with 1087 views

norfsufblue

Var & Cheating on 10:09 - Sep 5 by unbelievablue
The biggest worry for me is fouls in the lead up to goals, like the one at Old Trafford yesterday. My concern is that players, when they lose the ball in midfield, will go down more easily and stay down, giving VAR officials an excuse. From what I can see this is happening more and more often.

Subjective decisions made outside should not be the box should not be reviewed end of except if the referee himself wants to go back after allowing play to go on.... penalties much the same except that the referee automatically reviews his own decision.... nobody asks him to do it so they are not influenced by someone else's opinion. Off the ball violence is the only thing "others" should bring to the refs attention

Var & Cheating on 10:27 - Sep 5 with 1036 views

Ftnfwest

Well quite, i think its fair to say that the original decisions the refs/on field officials made in these incidents, whilst not perfect, without doubt were more correct than after having looked at replays. VAR needs to be limited to non-subjective decisions. I did hope when it came in that it would lead to punishment for diving etc but its rewarded them - they only need to prove they've been touched it seems, not impeded, to get penalties and whether they simulated fouls gets ignored. The issue with the 'foul' in the United game for instance, VAR should only be flagging things to the ref on a subjective level if there's serious foul play etc involved that's been missed.

Var & Cheating on 10:33 - Sep 5 with 1023 views

WeirdFishes

I was under the impression VAR would only be used for ‘clear and obvious’ errors. You could argue that it was a foul on Eriksen, I don’t think many people would have moaned if it was given at the time, but not giving the foul was certainly not a clear and obvious error that the referee had made.

If they need more than 1 extra look at it, the error (if any) is evidently not ‘clear and obvious’. They should limit the amount of times referee can review the footage, if they can’t determine an error has been made, original decision stands.

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Var & Cheating on 10:44 - Sep 5 with 1007 views

PrrrromotionGiven

Not VAR's fault that the officials are incompetent. They simply must be trained more.

Var & Cheating on 11:03 - Sep 5 with 979 views

Bent_double

Fed up with people saying, "it's not the technology, it's the people" that make VAR so rubbish.

It's VAR - it's the whole process, it's the desire for perfection in a game that thrives on errors for excitement. The big boys wanted it because they thought it would benefit them, I'm glad it's only in the PL at the moment, and would have no problem if they decided to scrap it completely.

They won't of course, but I live in hope.

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Var & Cheating on 11:07 - Sep 5 with 960 views

RobTheMonk

The Newcastle one was hilariously bad. The Palace defender literally nudges the striker into the goalie. They both miss the ball and an own goal gets scored.

It was never a foul on the keeper.

Mendy's was a joke too. The way he dived at Bowen's feet, there's always going to be contact because Mendy is initiating it.

Var & Cheating on 11:15 - Sep 5 with 951 views

Edmundo

Var & Cheating on 11:03 - Sep 5 by Bent_double

The option to go without VAR has been opened up by FIFA, apparently. However, every decision by VAR was only supposed to be changed if it was "clear and obvious error". That phrase appears to have been ignored by the show pony refs in the VAR box.

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Var & Cheating on 11:30 - Sep 5 with 926 views

MattinLondon

I think that I’m in the minority in the sense that I don’t think that refs are incompetent. Players, fans, managers and pundits put them under so much pressure that they feel the need to use technology to justify their decisions. It’s the easy way of taking away a difficult decision.

We can all complain about a player being offside by 1cm but footballs constant toxic moaning towards refs have forced them to be like that.

Take away players grabbing hold of shirts, acting, gamesmanship and the game would be easier to referee. Yes, the decisions this weekend were poor but fans, players etc were demanding technology in the first place. I’m surprised anyone would want to be a ref as they can zero respect from fans and players.

VAR needs to be better implemented but let’s not simply carpet-blame the officials for where the game is at the moment.

Var & Cheating on 11:36 - Sep 5 with 889 views

Basuco

The level of refereeing is now so bad they cannot even get a decision right even with multiple slow motion replays, the premier league does not like it because it limits the ability of refs to have big club bias in decisions.

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Var & Cheating on 11:56 - Sep 5 with 839 views

Radlett_blue

Var & Cheating on 10:33 - Sep 5 by WeirdFishes

The biggest problem with VAR is that it leads to games being re-refereed, with subjective decisions being contentiously changed.
The secondary problem is the hair's breadth off-side decisions & there is no solution to that as you will then have another hair's breadth decision about whether it was a "clear case" of off-side or not.

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Var & Cheating on 12:33 - Sep 5 with 770 views

mylittletown

Var & Cheating on 11:30 - Sep 5 by MattinLondon

And if referees actually clamped down on grabbing hold of shirts, acting and gamesmanship it would soon stop.

Simple example. In the Man U game yesterday the ball went out for a throw by the corner flag - it actually hit the corner flag and trickled out. The throw in was taken from a position in line with edge of the penalty area. The ref and the linesman just ignored the cheating.

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