| Unless there was a knock, Ladapo coming off after 58 was a poor decision 15:52 - Sep 25 with 2207 views | tractorboy1978 |
It changed the game. We suddenly had no out ball and nobody to hold it up or link play from the front. For all the jitters about his lack of efficiency in front of goal so far, he's our best striker by a country mile. I really don't like Jackson through the middle at all.
Lets not overreact. We've gone to the two toughest places in the league back to back and we still sit second. Not many teams will come away from Home Park with points this season. We need to make PR a really horrible place for Pompey to come and play next week. |  | | |  |
| Unless there was a knock, Ladapo coming off after 58 was a poor decision on 15:57 - Sep 25 with 2167 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
I agree with you on every point there. I could waffle on more but no need, exactly my thoughts. |  |
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| Unless there was a knock, Ladapo coming off after 58 was a poor decision on 16:00 - Sep 25 with 2142 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
I agree that there was no point in making changes just because we were at 60 minutes. Looked comfortable so why change it? |  |
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| Unless there was a knock, Ladapo coming off after 58 was a poor decision on 16:11 - Sep 25 with 2101 views | SitfcB |
Yeah strange subs and the timing of them. Sometimes it’s based on the ‘stats’ though and if they’re tired etc. |  |
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| Unless there was a knock, Ladapo coming off after 58 was a poor decision on 08:02 - Sep 26 with 1885 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Unless there was a knock, Ladapo coming off after 58 was a poor decision on 16:11 - Sep 25 by SitfcB |
Yeah strange subs and the timing of them. Sometimes it’s based on the ‘stats’ though and if they’re tired etc. |
I thought KVY for Harness was a fairly obvious one. Harness was not having a good game and KVY could shore things up against Mumba down the right with Jackson going over to the left side.
We just don't have a like for like with Ladapo at the moment, unless Ahadme can sharpen up quickly and lose the rough edges. We didn't really need to change the approach yesterday, we controlled the first 15 minutes of that second half. Ladapo was holding it up well and the game was mostly being played in their half. I understand the stats point but you'd rather have a tired Ladapo on there for another 15-20 minutes in the absence of a like for like replacement. It's also a bit perplexing when he played 85+ minutes against Arsenal U21s midweek. | | | |
| Unless there was a knock, Ladapo coming off after 58 was a poor decision on 08:36 - Sep 26 with 1848 views | wiganblue |
Interesting point about Lapado as I felt this was the reverse last week against Wednesday. He didn't press as well as others which allowed them time to start playing out from the back. Guess it shows the difference in opposition. | | | |
| Unless there was a knock, Ladapo coming off after 58 was a poor decision on 08:43 - Sep 26 with 1836 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Unless there was a knock, Ladapo coming off after 58 was a poor decision on 16:11 - Sep 25 by SitfcB |
Yeah strange subs and the timing of them. Sometimes it’s based on the ‘stats’ though and if they’re tired etc. |
The 70 minute subs worked really well when it was Aluko, Ball retention, Jackson, pace to run at tired defenders, and Leigh physicality.
Two of those are now injured and the other has been a starting. We now seem to be bringing on subs for subs sake. |  |
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| Unless there was a knock, Ladapo coming off after 58 was a poor decision on 09:06 - Sep 26 with 1815 views | Luggworm |
I disagree, the problem wasn't Ladapo coming off it was putting Jackson through the middle and KVY on the right. KVY and JD are basically the same player and were tripping each other up.
If he'd made a triple sub and brought Ahadme on for Davis at the same time our shape could have stayed the same. As soon as KJ moved back to the right and KVY to left we got back in control but the damage had been done. |  | | |
| Unless there was a knock, Ladapo coming off after 58 was a poor decision on 10:02 - Sep 26 with 1714 views | Exiled2Surrey |
I think it was just poor timing in this case.
As most have noted, things were going along nicely until the changes were made - but I dont see it as being our changes that caused the problem initially. The onus was on Argyle to change things as they were behind, and they did, by bringing on the big fella Cosgrove up front and pressing hard, which seemed to change the way that they played. Now, I am not going to tell McKenna what to do to combat that, but in hindsight he would really have been better off waiting to see what Plymouth did before making his move. | | | |
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| Unless there was a knock, Ladapo coming off after 58 was a poor decision on 10:20 - Sep 26 with 1676 views | Stewart27 |
Yep completely.
KM got that one wrong.
He doesn’t do that often. | | | |
| Unless there was a knock, Ladapo coming off after 58 was a poor decision on 10:58 - Sep 26 with 1601 views | PositivelyPortman |
As soon as Ladapo and Harness went off the whole team seemed to falter. |  |
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| Unless there was a knock, Ladapo coming off after 58 was a poor decision on 11:04 - Sep 26 with 1571 views | chicoazul |
| Unless there was a knock, Ladapo coming off after 58 was a poor decision on 16:11 - Sep 25 by SitfcB |
Yeah strange subs and the timing of them. Sometimes it’s based on the ‘stats’ though and if they’re tired etc. |
A vague concern about the new regime is that the sports science eggheads have an awful lot of clout now. |  |
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| Unless there was a knock, Ladapo coming off after 58 was a poor decision on 11:10 - Sep 26 with 1532 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Unless there was a knock, Ladapo coming off after 58 was a poor decision on 11:04 - Sep 26 by chicoazul |
A vague concern about the new regime is that the sports science eggheads have an awful lot of clout now. |
Yup.. it was what took Pigott off v Cheltenham in 'that' game where we took him off and they scored from long throws which he had dealt with all game.
If you're main striker in yesterday's case.. Is ladapo, who's Job was to hold the ball and be an outlet. You just don't swap that for Jackson.. it made 0 sense.
It gave their lwb licence to get forward. They kept one cb back and let the other move forward. It just changed the game in their favour. |  |
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| Unless there was a knock, Ladapo coming off after 58 was a poor decision on 11:22 - Sep 26 with 1504 views | Exiled2Surrey |
| Unless there was a knock, Ladapo coming off after 58 was a poor decision on 11:10 - Sep 26 by FrimleyBlue |
Yup.. it was what took Pigott off v Cheltenham in 'that' game where we took him off and they scored from long throws which he had dealt with all game.
If you're main striker in yesterday's case.. Is ladapo, who's Job was to hold the ball and be an outlet. You just don't swap that for Jackson.. it made 0 sense.
It gave their lwb licence to get forward. They kept one cb back and let the other move forward. It just changed the game in their favour. |
Or you swap him for Ahadme to do the same job if Freddie is running out of puff. But I maintain that we didn't need to do anything until they did. | | | |
| Unless there was a knock, Ladapo coming off after 58 was a poor decision on 20:05 - Sep 26 with 1300 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Unless there was a knock, Ladapo coming off after 58 was a poor decision on 09:06 - Sep 26 by Luggworm |
I disagree, the problem wasn't Ladapo coming off it was putting Jackson through the middle and KVY on the right. KVY and JD are basically the same player and were tripping each other up.
If he'd made a triple sub and brought Ahadme on for Davis at the same time our shape could have stayed the same. As soon as KJ moved back to the right and KVY to left we got back in control but the damage had been done. |
Early days but Ahadme looks nowhere near Ladapo's quality in terms of holding the ball up or linking play. He looks a bit of a loose cannon, shake 'em up type. That's not a criticism. What happens if Ladapo gets injured is my single worry about us right now. If he was suddenly out for a couple of months I'd be really concerned, and he's not even been scoring goals so far either! | | | |
| Unless there was a knock, Ladapo coming off after 58 was a poor decision on 20:30 - Sep 26 with 1268 views | FoD_Blue |
| Unless there was a knock, Ladapo coming off after 58 was a poor decision on 20:05 - Sep 26 by tractorboy1978 |
Early days but Ahadme looks nowhere near Ladapo's quality in terms of holding the ball up or linking play. He looks a bit of a loose cannon, shake 'em up type. That's not a criticism. What happens if Ladapo gets injured is my single worry about us right now. If he was suddenly out for a couple of months I'd be really concerned, and he's not even been scoring goals so far either! |
Ahadme has had about 30 minutes on the pitch as a substitute, and for most of his play time yesterday, he was probably seeing stars. At least give the guy a chance before he is written off. | | | |
| Unless there was a knock, Ladapo coming off after 58 was a poor decision on 20:51 - Sep 26 with 1249 views | rfretwell |
| Unless there was a knock, Ladapo coming off after 58 was a poor decision on 11:22 - Sep 26 by Exiled2Surrey |
Or you swap him for Ahadme to do the same job if Freddie is running out of puff. But I maintain that we didn't need to do anything until they did. |
Whereabouts in Surrey are you. I'm in Walton on Thames. There are several of us around here. | | | |
| Unless there was a knock, Ladapo coming off after 58 was a poor decision on 22:24 - Sep 26 with 1197 views | Exiled2Surrey |
| Unless there was a knock, Ladapo coming off after 58 was a poor decision on 20:51 - Sep 26 by rfretwell |
Whereabouts in Surrey are you. I'm in Walton on Thames. There are several of us around here. |
Just outside Woking
Good to know there are other like minded souls around here (in addition to my indoctrinated son) - I don’t get to enough of the games before Christmas as the lad plays rugby on most Saturday afternoons | | | |
| Unless there was a knock, Ladapo coming off after 58 was a poor decision on 22:31 - Sep 26 with 1181 views | tractordownsouth |
The KVY for Harness sub worked fine, but Ball for Chaplin would have worked too.
We could have gone 3-5-2 with a functional midfield to stop us getting overrun and dropped Ladapo back a little to provide an out ball but still give Jackson the space to get in behind. It would have become harder to link midfield and attack but the wingbacks may have done that. |  |
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| Unless there was a knock, Ladapo coming off after 58 was a poor decision on 09:45 - Sep 27 with 964 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Unless there was a knock, Ladapo coming off after 58 was a poor decision on 22:24 - Sep 26 by Exiled2Surrey |
Just outside Woking
Good to know there are other like minded souls around here (in addition to my indoctrinated son) - I don’t get to enough of the games before Christmas as the lad plays rugby on most Saturday afternoons |
Great town fans near woking ;) | |
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| Unless there was a knock, Ladapo coming off after 58 was a poor decision on 11:34 - Sep 27 with 906 views | dirtyboy |
| Unless there was a knock, Ladapo coming off after 58 was a poor decision on 08:43 - Sep 26 by GlasgowBlue |
The 70 minute subs worked really well when it was Aluko, Ball retention, Jackson, pace to run at tired defenders, and Leigh physicality.
Two of those are now injured and the other has been a starting. We now seem to be bringing on subs for subs sake. |
Really felt we've missed Aluko.
Very smart player and the ball just sticks to him, cool head like him needed. |  | | |
| Unless there was a knock, Ladapo coming off after 58 was a poor decision on 12:10 - Sep 27 with 873 views | Exiled2Surrey |
| Unless there was a knock, Ladapo coming off after 58 was a poor decision on 11:34 - Sep 27 by dirtyboy |
Really felt we've missed Aluko.
Very smart player and the ball just sticks to him, cool head like him needed. |
I agree but I wonder whether we have a ready made natural replacement for Aluko in Cam Humphries? You can't instantly give him Aluko's maturity, and you are not exactly putting on an old head to steady things up at that stage of the game, but from what I have seen CM's skill set should make him pretty good at that role I would have thought. I am sure someone will be able to dig out stats about press resistance or some such metric and prove me wrong, but I wouldn't mind seeing us try (assuming he makes the bench of course). | | | |
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