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Brexit Myths Dispelled 15:17 - Nov 10 with 9727 viewsblueasfook

1 ) Brexit has led to high inflation for the UK.

Here is October figures for inflation

United Kingdom : 10.1%

Euro Area : 10.7%

Source: https://tradingeconomics.com/country-list/inflation-rate

We need someone to come along and make a peppermint tea joke.

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Brexit Myths Dispelled on 12:16 - Nov 16 with 1948 viewsblueasfook

Brexit Myths Dispelled on 08:25 - Nov 16 by StokieBlue

Seems those numbers were indicative and the actual October inflation rate for the UK was 11.1%.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/nov/16/uk-inflation-rate-energy-price-

I assume you'll be making a thread to highlight it?

SB


You assume wrong

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Brexit Myths Dispelled on 12:24 - Nov 16 with 1921 viewsStokieBlue

Brexit Myths Dispelled on 12:16 - Nov 16 by blueasfook

You assume wrong

BAF


Not entirely unexpected, after all, why would you correct your own errors?

If you had to spend time doing that you'd have no time for anything else.

SB

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Brexit Myths Dispelled on 12:39 - Nov 16 with 1907 viewsblueasfook

Brexit Myths Dispelled on 12:24 - Nov 16 by StokieBlue

Not entirely unexpected, after all, why would you correct your own errors?

If you had to spend time doing that you'd have no time for anything else.

SB


Not my error. The figures i quoted were correct at the time.

You really are a tedious little man.

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Brexit Myths Dispelled on 13:19 - Nov 16 with 1867 viewsmonytowbray

Brexit Myths Dispelled on 12:39 - Nov 16 by blueasfook

Not my error. The figures i quoted were correct at the time.

You really are a tedious little man.


I see this thread has gone incredibly well for you.

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Brexit Myths Dispelled on 13:23 - Nov 16 with 1854 viewsDarth_Koont

Brexit Myths Dispelled on 13:19 - Nov 16 by monytowbray

I see this thread has gone incredibly well for you.


Blueasfook in shallow ignoramus shocker.

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Brexit Myths Dispelled on 13:56 - Nov 16 with 1805 viewsblueasfook

Brexit Myths Dispelled on 13:23 - Nov 16 by Darth_Koont

Blueasfook in shallow ignoramus shocker.


Give my regards to the Whatsapp group guys.

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Brexit Myths Dispelled on 14:03 - Nov 16 with 1799 viewsDarth_Koont

Brexit Myths Dispelled on 13:56 - Nov 16 by blueasfook

Give my regards to the Whatsapp group guys.


And clearly a conspiracy theorist too.

Nah, you're a prize plum. People have no trouble getting there on their own.

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Brexit Myths Dispelled on 14:05 - Nov 16 with 1799 viewsSpruceMoose

Brexit Myths Dispelled on 13:56 - Nov 16 by blueasfook

Give my regards to the Whatsapp group guys.


The WhatsApp group disbanded since I've come back to save the day!

Hope you're keeping well mate!

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Brexit Myths Dispelled on 14:30 - Nov 16 with 1764 viewsgiant_stow

Brexit Myths Dispelled on 14:05 - Nov 16 by SpruceMoose

The WhatsApp group disbanded since I've come back to save the day!

Hope you're keeping well mate!


hello mr - hope you're well.

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Brexit Myths Dispelled on 14:37 - Nov 16 with 1757 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

What am I missing here? Even with a revision the figures are broadly similar.
Is this one of those winning the Internet things?

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Brexit Myths Dispelled on 18:02 - Nov 16 with 1693 viewsHARRY10

"Bank of England governor Andrew Bailey has said that the UK economy has suffered a “dramatically” worse recovery from Covid than the US and EU.

Speaking at a hearing of the Treasury Select Committee, Mr Bailey told MPs there was a “striking” difference between the economic performance of GDP post-pandemic and that of the US dollar and euro.

He said Britain’s economy was 0.7 per cent smaller than at the end of 2019, while the eurozone was 2.1 per cent higher and the US 4.2 per cent larger than their pre-pandemic levels."


There is also a forecast that the UK will have the lowest growth in 2023 of 38 leading countries. Accepts that is a forecast, but the BoEs results are not.

So given that the brexit thickos have been squeaking that the UK is suffering the same inflationary pressures as other countries what then has caused this fall. What extra factor does the UK have that others do not ? Why are the UK results so bad ?

A suggestion -

Perhaps it was not a good idea to add 4 million customs forms per week to UK exporters

Perhaps it was not a good idea to close off access to the labour needed either.

As unsurprisingly those actions have not brought about the untold riches promised, but have sent the UK into a slow downward spiral

Who would have thought that ?

That I am not sure of, but I do know 13 million plus knew the consequences of turning the UK into an inward looking and isolated country
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Brexit Myths Dispelled on 18:53 - Nov 16 with 1678 viewsHARRY10

"UK-US TRADE DEAL IS DONE” announced the Sunday Express in August 2019. Boris Johnson was at Biarritz for his first bilateral meeting with Donald Trump and the stage was set. “A historic trade agreement between Britain and the United States is set to be signed next month,” claimed the Tory tabloid.

Three years on, all prospects of a post-Brexit trade deal between Britain and the US are dead. Even the talks needed to begin the process will not begin “for years”, Liz Truss admitted as she flew into New York for the UN General Assembly. The Prime Minister told journalists: “There aren’t currently any negotiations taking place with the US and I don’t have an expectation that those are going to start in the short to medium term.”

https://www.newstatesman.com/comment/2022/09/no-uk-us-trade-deal-brexit-fantasy

Worth a read as it explains why the brexit lies were lies, and why we are where we are now is not an aberration. It is the inevitable consequence of leaving the biggest and most valuable trading group on the globe.

The reality of the UK of having completed only one trade deal (Japan) is not solely down to the ineptness of Truss either. It is that as a country of 60 million odd, we no longer have the same clout as that of a 450 million EU.

Today's admission by Sunak confirming that no US trade deal is likely, as he did with India, merely adds to the reality of the lies of '40 news deals on day one' and 'the easiest deal in history'.

The now sorry sight of the UK trailing round the globe cap in hand, either being unable to strike anything new, or being turned over by the likes of NZ and Aus (neither yet ratified) is a fitting reminder of the sordid deception put out by Farage, Rees-Mogg, Johnson, IDS and the rest of the squalid cabal of Brexit liars
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Brexit Myths Dispelled on 19:41 - Nov 16 with 1677 viewsmonytowbray

Brexit Myths Dispelled on 14:05 - Nov 16 by SpruceMoose

The WhatsApp group disbanded since I've come back to save the day!

Hope you're keeping well mate!


Alas I wish I was in said whatsapp group if it brought this f**ker out the mud!

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Brexit Myths Dispelled on 20:30 - Nov 16 with 1631 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

Brexit Myths Dispelled on 14:37 - Nov 16 by BanksterDebtSlave

What am I missing here? Even with a revision the figures are broadly similar.
Is this one of those winning the Internet things?


Does seem a strange argument to have.

Whether you’re running at 9% inflation in one country, or 10.5% in another - no one’s a winner. A real Hurst v Lambert argument.
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Brexit Myths Dispelled on 20:34 - Nov 16 with 1627 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Brexit Myths Dispelled on 14:37 - Nov 16 by BanksterDebtSlave

What am I missing here? Even with a revision the figures are broadly similar.
Is this one of those winning the Internet things?


I would be more inclined to believe the Bank of England's Governor when he says:

"It’s a dramatic difference,” he said. Asked whether Brexit was contributing to the country’s underperformance, he said that “there is an effect” from leaving the EU, including a “long-run downshift” in the level of productivity.

“It’s not [an impact] we’ve been surprised by. As a public official I’m neutral on Brexit per se, but I’m not neutral in saying these are what we think are the most likely economic effects of it,”

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/brexit-and-drop-in-workforce-harming-econo

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Brexit Myths Dispelled on 20:56 - Nov 16 with 1615 viewsOldsmoker

Brexit Myths Dispelled on 20:34 - Nov 16 by Nthsuffolkblue

I would be more inclined to believe the Bank of England's Governor when he says:

"It’s a dramatic difference,” he said. Asked whether Brexit was contributing to the country’s underperformance, he said that “there is an effect” from leaving the EU, including a “long-run downshift” in the level of productivity.

“It’s not [an impact] we’ve been surprised by. As a public official I’m neutral on Brexit per se, but I’m not neutral in saying these are what we think are the most likely economic effects of it,”

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/brexit-and-drop-in-workforce-harming-econo


A comment I found on the interwebby ting.

But apart from the loss of £trillions, prestige, standards, morals, human rights and trading relations, while polarising the nation, risking the Union & GFA, breaking international law and leaving a sizeable debt for our great-grandchildren and crashing our economy...

What has Brexit ever done for us?
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Brexit Myths Dispelled on 21:11 - Nov 16 with 1600 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Brexit Myths Dispelled on 20:34 - Nov 16 by Nthsuffolkblue

I would be more inclined to believe the Bank of England's Governor when he says:

"It’s a dramatic difference,” he said. Asked whether Brexit was contributing to the country’s underperformance, he said that “there is an effect” from leaving the EU, including a “long-run downshift” in the level of productivity.

“It’s not [an impact] we’ve been surprised by. As a public official I’m neutral on Brexit per se, but I’m not neutral in saying these are what we think are the most likely economic effects of it,”

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/brexit-and-drop-in-workforce-harming-econo


I don't think he was commenting on inflation.

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Brexit Myths Dispelled on 21:23 - Nov 16 with 1590 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Brexit Myths Dispelled on 21:11 - Nov 16 by BanksterDebtSlave

I don't think he was commenting on inflation.


GDP was the specific point he was referring to. But with a much lower growth in GDP, we should have a much lower rate of inflation, shouldn't we? Instead, we have a significantly higher one. It is almost like it is a double whammy.

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Brexit Myths Dispelled on 21:29 - Nov 16 with 1583 viewsOldsmoker

Brexit Myths Dispelled on 21:11 - Nov 16 by BanksterDebtSlave

I don't think he was commenting on inflation.


There's a video of him at the commons select committee.


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Brexit Myths Dispelled on 21:31 - Nov 16 with 1578 viewsXYZ

Brexit Myths Dispelled on 21:11 - Nov 16 by BanksterDebtSlave

I don't think he was commenting on inflation.


Didn't he refer to the strength of the £ and, therefore, imported inflation.
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Brexit Myths Dispelled on 21:37 - Nov 16 with 1572 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

Brexit Myths Dispelled on 21:23 - Nov 16 by Nthsuffolkblue

GDP was the specific point he was referring to. But with a much lower growth in GDP, we should have a much lower rate of inflation, shouldn't we? Instead, we have a significantly higher one. It is almost like it is a double whammy.


There’s the additional factor of government funding cuts at a time when the economy is already shrinking. A little infrastructure spending would be a nice economic boost creating jobs and assets on the balance sheet. Economics 101.

However ideology means they are following the same austerity/ printing money route that’s led to a zombie economy Since 2008. Obviously we are sitting on a shed load of debt (of their own making) but the bond markets freaked out because of the unfunded tax cuts for a tiny number of people which had no credibility in terms of boosting growth. Borrowing to invest in national infrastructure would probably not have caused the markets to react in the same way.
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Brexit Myths Dispelled on 21:43 - Nov 16 with 1560 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Brexit Myths Dispelled on 21:31 - Nov 16 by XYZ

Didn't he refer to the strength of the £ and, therefore, imported inflation.


I think you may all be over thinking the op!

https://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=EUR&to=USD
https://www.xe.com/currencyconverter/convert/?Amount=1&From=GBP&To=USD

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Brexit Myths Dispelled on 21:44 - Nov 16 with 1559 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Brexit Myths Dispelled on 21:37 - Nov 16 by SuperKieranMcKenna

There’s the additional factor of government funding cuts at a time when the economy is already shrinking. A little infrastructure spending would be a nice economic boost creating jobs and assets on the balance sheet. Economics 101.

However ideology means they are following the same austerity/ printing money route that’s led to a zombie economy Since 2008. Obviously we are sitting on a shed load of debt (of their own making) but the bond markets freaked out because of the unfunded tax cuts for a tiny number of people which had no credibility in terms of boosting growth. Borrowing to invest in national infrastructure would probably not have caused the markets to react in the same way.


One could argue that it may well have had the opposite effect on bond markets.

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