| Novotel injunction rejected on 23:50 - Nov 14 with 1504 views | jeera |
| Novotel injunction rejected on 23:33 - Nov 14 by Powrigan |
Wouldn’t make any difference, as the last time i walked through the Ipswich town centre I barely heard any english being spoken. |
It does give a false impression when every council in the region sends people to one area.
Councils always send people they don't want to deal with/don't know what to do with to places like Ipswich which will have the cheapest rents available.
It can be unfair on the locals who can sometimes feel intimidated by numbers of people they don't know, of a background they don't recognise.
But it's also unfair on those who are given no choice and are sent somewhere against their will and made to feel like baggage whilst someone else in an office somewhere decides their fate.
I include 'our own' homeless in that, hence the amount of people noticeable in empty shop doorways the last time I walked through the town.
At first glance it can seem to make the town look untidy, to cheapen the place and take away any class the place might have.
Then you remember these are actual people, real-life people with thoughts, desires, wishes and feelings, with families somewhere. Or not in many cases. People who have no one to care for them or wonder about them or if they're safe and doing ok.
The reason they are there is because some councils won't have them for all those reasons. They see them as sub-human so pack them off somewhere else out of sight where they are seen only as a nuisance.
It's wrong and unfair for everyone, except for those in power who don't care and to whom human beings like this are just numbers on sheets of paper.
D'you know, Bury Town Council wouldn't have a homeless shelter in the town years ago, because they didn't want to attract the 'wrong sort'. Shelter, the organisation, had to fight tooth and nail to get use of an empty building for just three months of the year in order to get people off the streets and under cover in the height of winter. They then had to be turfed back out to face the elements once that 12 weeks was over, regardless of the turn the weather may have taken outside.
Even then they were only licenced for night-time use and the temporary 'residents' had to leave during the day and go onto the streets.
Horrible aren't we. Why are we like that do you think? |  |
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| Novotel injunction rejected on 12:14 - Nov 15 with 1402 views | noggin |
| Novotel injunction rejected on 19:37 - Nov 14 by Nthsuffolkblue |
I have some limited experience of working among homeless people. Some of the stories are harrowing but the most abiding memory still is "there, but for the grace of God, go I". One was an ex-teacher. Family breakdown and mental health problems featured highly for most. |
When I worked in London, we had a regular who would sleep sleep on the pavement during the day. Members of the public would ring 999 thinking he was unconscious.
One day at A&E, a nurse told me why he slept on the street. Apparently he came from a decent family but one night there was a fire at their house and the whole family perished, apart from him. From then on, he felt safer on the street.
So yep, there but for the grace of God. |  |
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| Novotel injunction rejected on 14:43 - Nov 15 with 1327 views | giant_stow |
| Novotel injunction rejected on 12:14 - Nov 15 by noggin |
When I worked in London, we had a regular who would sleep sleep on the pavement during the day. Members of the public would ring 999 thinking he was unconscious.
One day at A&E, a nurse told me why he slept on the street. Apparently he came from a decent family but one night there was a fire at their house and the whole family perished, apart from him. From then on, he felt safer on the street.
So yep, there but for the grace of God. |
crumbs. and your last line - so true. |  |
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| Novotel injunction rejected on 07:36 - Nov 16 with 1181 views | noggin |
| Novotel injunction rejected on 19:51 - Nov 14 by HARRY10 |
Nope, and no one gets issued with 'mental health' either.
There maybe an argument as to why some become an addict. My experience has been, and those I have worked with, is that it is more someone's addictive being than any lack of funding to 'cure' them.
Would removing heroin simply mean those addicts would become hooked on booze instead ?
Heroin addicts cut right across the social class. It's just the more wealthy, the easier it is to hide.
I came to the conclusion that heroin should be prescribed........free. Take it off the streets and it would be harder to get hooked. On a cost basis alone it must be cheaper than having to deal with the crime involved, plus the misery and the degradation of those who turn to prostitution.
I read somewhere of some Lord who stated in the House that he had been taking heroin for years. Only his would have been pure heroin, in a regulated amount.
Odd how in war opiates are OK - 70 million speed tablets were issued by the British during WW2.
Alright to be blown up in war, but not shot away in peace it would seem.. |
"Odd how in war opiates are OK - 70 million speed tablets were issued by the British during WW2."
Speed is not an opiate. | |
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| Novotel injunction rejected on 08:20 - Nov 16 with 1146 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Novotel injunction rejected on 07:36 - Nov 16 by noggin |
"Odd how in war opiates are OK - 70 million speed tablets were issued by the British during WW2."
Speed is not an opiate. |
Harry is proving in this thread just how ignorant Lefties can be! |  |
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| Novotel injunction rejected on 08:57 - Nov 16 with 1133 views | leitrimblue |
| Novotel injunction rejected on 07:36 - Nov 16 by noggin |
"Odd how in war opiates are OK - 70 million speed tablets were issued by the British during WW2."
Speed is not an opiate. |
I like to think Harry was thinking of speedballs. Everyone's favourite winter warmer |  | | |
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