| How depressingly predictable... 08:36 - Nov 21 with 2468 views | Zx1988 |
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63699477
Surely, with a message such as this, the players just need to double down and take the hit? It's a message that clearly seems to be embarrassing Qatar, so why not just go for it and rotate the captaincy on a match-by-match basis so as to avoid suspensions etc., [Post edited 21 Nov 2022 8:36]
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| How depressingly predictable... on 08:41 - Nov 21 with 2414 views | ellaandred |
The FA, as usual, will capitulate. |  | | |
| How depressingly predictable... on 08:42 - Nov 21 with 2394 views | ADStephenson |
I was thinking exactly the same about rotation on my way into work this morning. Or just give the armband to the player with the least yellow cards/least likely to get a yellow card. Gary Lineker would be perfect! |  |
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| How depressingly predictable... on 08:44 - Nov 21 with 2367 views | LeoMuff |
Surely if all the players wear it, then booking them all will make a huge statement and media frenzy which in no way will FIFA or Qatar want. |  |
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| How depressingly predictable... on 08:49 - Nov 21 with 2349 views | Chrisd |
| How depressingly predictable... on 08:41 - Nov 21 by ellaandred |
The FA, as usual, will capitulate. |
They will, especially when Qatari officials pay them off. | |
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| How depressingly predictable... on 08:57 - Nov 21 with 2291 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| How depressingly predictable... on 08:44 - Nov 21 by LeoMuff |
Surely if all the players wear it, then booking them all will make a huge statement and media frenzy which in no way will FIFA or Qatar want. |
That would be fantastic to see the ref going up to every player (plus subs) and brandishing a yellow card. Even just for one game it'd be a fantastic statement and get so much publicity. |  |
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| How depressingly predictable... on 09:01 - Nov 21 with 2285 views | giant_stow |
They really just have to see it through and wear the arm band now - to back down would be a betrayal, and like others say, just game it / rotate it - Harry Kane can still be the leader on the pitch. |  |
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| How depressingly predictable... on 09:14 - Nov 21 with 2208 views | bluelagos |
The decision not to sell beer showed how the Qataris were happy to stick 2 fingers up to Fifa and assert their power at this late stage. Fifa haven't previously objected to the rainbow or 'One love' armbands so I think it fair to assume the Qataris are once again flexing their muscles.
Lots of anger being directed at Qatar and their human rights record but I think we should also recognise the role of Fifa in taking the world cup there in the first place.
It's not as if Qatar's human rights issues were unknown. Yet today, 4 hours before kick off Fifa are finalising their stance... |  |
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| How depressingly predictable... on 09:21 - Nov 21 with 2160 views | WD19 |
| How depressingly predictable... on 09:14 - Nov 21 by bluelagos |
The decision not to sell beer showed how the Qataris were happy to stick 2 fingers up to Fifa and assert their power at this late stage. Fifa haven't previously objected to the rainbow or 'One love' armbands so I think it fair to assume the Qataris are once again flexing their muscles.
Lots of anger being directed at Qatar and their human rights record but I think we should also recognise the role of Fifa in taking the world cup there in the first place.
It's not as if Qatar's human rights issues were unknown. Yet today, 4 hours before kick off Fifa are finalising their stance... |
It is utterly witless from FIFA (& the Qataris for that matter). They will trigger the exact opposite of what we presume they intend.
Throughout the tournament 94th minute squad-filler subs will be wearing all sort of non-standard garb to make a point at this rate. Picking a fight with media savvy players is just plain stupid. |  | | |
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| How depressingly predictable... on 09:35 - Nov 21 with 2096 views | LeoMuff |
| How depressingly predictable... on 09:21 - Nov 21 by WD19 |
It is utterly witless from FIFA (& the Qataris for that matter). They will trigger the exact opposite of what we presume they intend.
Throughout the tournament 94th minute squad-filler subs will be wearing all sort of non-standard garb to make a point at this rate. Picking a fight with media savvy players is just plain stupid. |
It’s odd really, surely FIFA hold all the cards here, what are Qatar going to do pull the World Cup over an armband or beer in the stadium ? Just say no, this is what you agreed to. | |
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| How depressingly predictable... on 09:42 - Nov 21 with 2057 views | clive_baker |
We should absolutely still go ahead and wear it, I'm all in favour of using this stage to get an important message across. Take a yellow if that's the consequence, if anything it just brings it more attention. |  |
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| How depressingly predictable... on 09:53 - Nov 21 with 1974 views | ellaandred |
| How depressingly predictable... on 08:49 - Nov 21 by Chrisd |
They will, especially when Qatari officials pay them off. |
Corruption at the highest level in football, whatever next!
Although, I didn't think the Qatari officials are that high, although they seem to be ruling FIFA !!! | | | |
| How depressingly predictable... on 09:56 - Nov 21 with 1965 views | Vaughan8 |
| How depressingly predictable... on 09:42 - Nov 21 by clive_baker |
We should absolutely still go ahead and wear it, I'm all in favour of using this stage to get an important message across. Take a yellow if that's the consequence, if anything it just brings it more attention. |
Are we going to have different captains in each game to spread the yellows around? haha
In all seriousness, I though the armband is pretty useless and isn't going to send much of a message anyway. However, now FIfa (and/or Qatar) seem to have an issue with it......we should stick to our guns.
If they score and do a celebration which is not liked, are they going to get a retrospective red card.
Seems like FIFA (and/or Qatar) want to control every tiny thing. Really weird | | | |
| How depressingly predictable... on 10:04 - Nov 21 with 1911 views | clive_baker |
| How depressingly predictable... on 09:56 - Nov 21 by Vaughan8 |
Are we going to have different captains in each game to spread the yellows around? haha
In all seriousness, I though the armband is pretty useless and isn't going to send much of a message anyway. However, now FIfa (and/or Qatar) seem to have an issue with it......we should stick to our guns.
If they score and do a celebration which is not liked, are they going to get a retrospective red card.
Seems like FIFA (and/or Qatar) want to control every tiny thing. Really weird |
Seems like the FA have backed down which is a real shame. Southgate could've worn it at least for today. | |
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| How depressingly predictable... on 11:07 - Nov 21 with 1770 views | LeoMuff |
| How depressingly predictable... on 10:04 - Nov 21 by clive_baker |
Seems like the FA have backed down which is a real shame. Southgate could've worn it at least for today. |
I really hope they are going to find a significant way of protesting today, otherwise I will be really disappointed. Like you say Southgate wearing it is no loss even if he gets booked, then all donning it would be ideal. | |
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| How depressingly predictable... on 11:10 - Nov 21 with 1752 views | Stadiumofdark |
| How depressingly predictable... on 11:07 - Nov 21 by LeoMuff |
I really hope they are going to find a significant way of protesting today, otherwise I will be really disappointed. Like you say Southgate wearing it is no loss even if he gets booked, then all donning it would be ideal. |
Exactly.
Celebrate a goal with a kiss and cuddle and they'll all be booked |  | | |
| How depressingly predictable... on 11:18 - Nov 21 with 1720 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| How depressingly predictable... on 11:10 - Nov 21 by Stadiumofdark |
Exactly.
Celebrate a goal with a kiss and cuddle and they'll all be booked |
I think they should get naked and get it on if they score. Now THAT would be a statement! | |
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| Absolutely this on 11:18 - Nov 21 with 1736 views | Dyland |
| How depressingly predictable... on 09:14 - Nov 21 by bluelagos |
The decision not to sell beer showed how the Qataris were happy to stick 2 fingers up to Fifa and assert their power at this late stage. Fifa haven't previously objected to the rainbow or 'One love' armbands so I think it fair to assume the Qataris are once again flexing their muscles.
Lots of anger being directed at Qatar and their human rights record but I think we should also recognise the role of Fifa in taking the world cup there in the first place.
It's not as if Qatar's human rights issues were unknown. Yet today, 4 hours before kick off Fifa are finalising their stance... |
It's blatant corruption at FIFA, and incredible deflection from their sponsors. They should all be ashamed, but there's so much delusion and cognitive dissonance covering this venal profit-before-ethics maxim.
As if the Qatari state was going to change culturally and become tolerant for a month. A few years of gesture politics, nothing more. The only thing that would make a statement is not turning up.
But here we are! And yes, I'll be watching some of the matches, before anyone asks. |  |
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| Absolutely this on 11:27 - Nov 21 with 1704 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Absolutely this on 11:18 - Nov 21 by Dyland |
It's blatant corruption at FIFA, and incredible deflection from their sponsors. They should all be ashamed, but there's so much delusion and cognitive dissonance covering this venal profit-before-ethics maxim.
As if the Qatari state was going to change culturally and become tolerant for a month. A few years of gesture politics, nothing more. The only thing that would make a statement is not turning up.
But here we are! And yes, I'll be watching some of the matches, before anyone asks. |
I guess they won't be highlighting the ongoing situation in Iran then! |  |
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| How depressingly predictable... on 11:35 - Nov 21 with 1683 views | fallyblue |
They are there to play football not make political statements, they should never thought of wearing it in the first place | | | |
| How depressingly predictable... on 11:38 - Nov 21 with 1676 views | LeoMuff |
| How depressingly predictable... on 11:35 - Nov 21 by fallyblue |
They are there to play football not make political statements, they should never thought of wearing it in the first place |
Clearly being born gay is not political, this is about a basic human right to exist.
I assume you would have been ok to travel to Nazi Germany for a kick about in 1942 if all politics should be kept out of sport ? | |
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| How depressingly predictable... on 11:46 - Nov 21 with 1649 views | BseaBlue |
| How depressingly predictable... on 08:42 - Nov 21 by ADStephenson |
I was thinking exactly the same about rotation on my way into work this morning. Or just give the armband to the player with the least yellow cards/least likely to get a yellow card. Gary Lineker would be perfect! |
Agree! They could have given it to Pickford as an example.....Very unlikely he gets booked in the remainder of the game. |  | | |
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