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This virus thing 14:22 - Dec 28 with 15053 viewsgtsb1966

I probably know more people who have had/got it than haven't had it at all. Absolute barsteward of a lingerer too. Personally got it a month ago but still it keeps coming back mildy. So many people with coughs.
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This virus thing on 18:10 - Dec 28 with 2325 viewsgtsb1966

This virus thing on 18:07 - Dec 28 by jeera

It reads like taking some simple measures in order to protect other people from one's grimy germs.

Easy to do and lots of people will benefit.

I don't know why people make out it's so hard to not be selfish when it isn't.


I get both arguments but dont you have to catch things to build immunity.
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This virus thing on 18:20 - Dec 28 with 2297 viewsbariotneblue

Currently in North Eastern France for work and I have to say the vigilance and mask wearing of the locals has been excellent. There is a nasty fluey thing going around (I’m coming to the end of it) but the responsibility of the community is quite clear to see here.
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This virus thing on 18:23 - Dec 28 with 2284 viewsjeera

This virus thing on 18:10 - Dec 28 by gtsb1966

I get both arguments but dont you have to catch things to build immunity.


Not things that kill you.

For a start anyway. That's what vaccinations are for, or avoidance at all costs.

But I know you're not talking about that. There's no such thing as a 'cold' is there. We call the body's response to tons of different bugs that attack us and meet our immune systems that leave us trying to flush the fecker out, resulting in being extremely unattractive snot-ridden, sweating, miserable beings that often spend a lot of time on the toilet.

It's no fun for us or anyone around us.

Things is with those is they mutate like mad and it's impossible to be immune to all of them and it's impossible to avoid them all when out and about. We can try to control the load we give out though. If we pick up smaller amounts we can still recognise and build some immunity anyway. Too much and we're just ill. We then build an immunity to something that might no even exist again, great.

We still catch the next variation the following season and spread that around too.

Basic hygiene is awful you must have noticed. People not washing their hands the filthy bastatrds. If they followed some simple guidelines like hygiene and mask-wearing in the winter months it could save a lot of unhappy households over Xmas et al.

And save the economy millions from lost working hours.

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This virus thing on 18:30 - Dec 28 with 2266 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

This virus thing on 18:23 - Dec 28 by jeera

Not things that kill you.

For a start anyway. That's what vaccinations are for, or avoidance at all costs.

But I know you're not talking about that. There's no such thing as a 'cold' is there. We call the body's response to tons of different bugs that attack us and meet our immune systems that leave us trying to flush the fecker out, resulting in being extremely unattractive snot-ridden, sweating, miserable beings that often spend a lot of time on the toilet.

It's no fun for us or anyone around us.

Things is with those is they mutate like mad and it's impossible to be immune to all of them and it's impossible to avoid them all when out and about. We can try to control the load we give out though. If we pick up smaller amounts we can still recognise and build some immunity anyway. Too much and we're just ill. We then build an immunity to something that might no even exist again, great.

We still catch the next variation the following season and spread that around too.

Basic hygiene is awful you must have noticed. People not washing their hands the filthy bastatrds. If they followed some simple guidelines like hygiene and mask-wearing in the winter months it could save a lot of unhappy households over Xmas et al.

And save the economy millions from lost working hours.


Are you suggesting that badly sick people should go out wearing masks?

"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
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This virus thing on 18:37 - Dec 28 with 2249 viewsBarcaBlue

This virus thing on 18:30 - Dec 28 by BanksterDebtSlave

Are you suggesting that badly sick people should go out wearing masks?


How on earth did you come to that conclusion? Nothing in Jeera's post even hints at that. Not evenly remotely. That's a really weird take but I guess you have your reasons or agenda.
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This virus thing on 18:42 - Dec 28 with 2223 viewsgtsb1966

This virus thing on 18:23 - Dec 28 by jeera

Not things that kill you.

For a start anyway. That's what vaccinations are for, or avoidance at all costs.

But I know you're not talking about that. There's no such thing as a 'cold' is there. We call the body's response to tons of different bugs that attack us and meet our immune systems that leave us trying to flush the fecker out, resulting in being extremely unattractive snot-ridden, sweating, miserable beings that often spend a lot of time on the toilet.

It's no fun for us or anyone around us.

Things is with those is they mutate like mad and it's impossible to be immune to all of them and it's impossible to avoid them all when out and about. We can try to control the load we give out though. If we pick up smaller amounts we can still recognise and build some immunity anyway. Too much and we're just ill. We then build an immunity to something that might no even exist again, great.

We still catch the next variation the following season and spread that around too.

Basic hygiene is awful you must have noticed. People not washing their hands the filthy bastatrds. If they followed some simple guidelines like hygiene and mask-wearing in the winter months it could save a lot of unhappy households over Xmas et al.

And save the economy millions from lost working hours.


I don't understand all the medical do's and dont's to be honest. Does catching something boost your immune system or doesn't it make much difference. I also get the mask wearing hand washing thing in winter too. Does the latter hinder the former? I don't know. What I do know is that before covid none of us would even think about covering up in the winter.
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This virus thing on 21:05 - Dec 28 with 2118 viewsStokieBlue

This virus thing on 18:03 - Dec 28 by GlasgowBlue

Surely we want to build up natural immunity? Otherwise the next generation are going to be pretty damn sickly.


The implication of your post is that everyone in Asia is "pretty damn sickly" which is clearly a fallacy and easily disproven.

What actually happens is the naturally circulating amount of the virus becomes very low and less people are exposed to it regardless of masks.

Another issue is that it's seen as "skiving" to stay off work if you'll a bit ill by quite a few people. The pushback I got from the "proper blokes" on here for suggesting people stay off if they have a cold or cough was ridiculous.

"Don't be a wuss". "In my day" etc etc.

Might not be possible in every job but most are far more understanding these days.

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This virus thing on 21:25 - Dec 28 with 2101 viewsSpruceMoose

This virus thing on 18:07 - Dec 28 by jeera

It reads like taking some simple measures in order to protect other people from one's grimy germs.

Easy to do and lots of people will benefit.

I don't know why people make out it's so hard to not be selfish when it isn't.


Yes but BDS needed an excuse to have yet another tiresome dig at Stokie. #BeQuiet

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This virus thing on 16:22 - Dec 28 by SlippinJimmyJuan

Water, own brand lemsip (paracetamol and phenylephrine) with honey, a mucolytic cough syrup, vapour rub, water, fruit and veg, bed rest, lots of tissues, water, some mild exercise (a leisurely walk) each day and water.


A man up pill usually survice
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This virus thing on 22:42 - Dec 28 with 1950 viewsDJR

This virus thing on 21:05 - Dec 28 by StokieBlue

The implication of your post is that everyone in Asia is "pretty damn sickly" which is clearly a fallacy and easily disproven.

What actually happens is the naturally circulating amount of the virus becomes very low and less people are exposed to it regardless of masks.

Another issue is that it's seen as "skiving" to stay off work if you'll a bit ill by quite a few people. The pushback I got from the "proper blokes" on here for suggesting people stay off if they have a cold or cough was ridiculous.

"Don't be a wuss". "In my day" etc etc.

Might not be possible in every job but most are far more understanding these days.

SB
[Post edited 28 Dec 2022 21:09]


Interestingly, and touch wood, flu cases requiring hospitalisation have to date not taken off as much as was feared, which would suggest some sort of immunity.

In the week to 22 December, there were on average about 1939 people in hospital each day with flu, with 147 on average in critical care.

This is described by the most recent weekly National influenza and Covid Surveillance Report as being within the Medium Activity Range.
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This virus thing on 22:51 - Dec 28 with 1924 viewsDJR

The following article suggests that staying at home rather than masks (or social distancing) can reduce immunity.

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-staying-home-immune-system-idUSKBN2

The article focuses on the psychological aspects of isolation but perhaps things like lack of fresh air and exercise and too many calories haven't helped either.
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This virus thing on 22:59 - Dec 28 with 1906 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

This virus thing on 18:37 - Dec 28 by BarcaBlue

How on earth did you come to that conclusion? Nothing in Jeera's post even hints at that. Not evenly remotely. That's a really weird take but I guess you have your reasons or agenda.


"We can try to control the load we give out though. If we pick up smaller amounts we can still recognise and build some immunity anyway."

I thought it might be what he meant by this bit. No agenda. As I said earlier, best not to go in to confined, populated spaces when badly ill.

"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
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This virus thing on 23:01 - Dec 28 with 1897 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

This virus thing on 21:25 - Dec 28 by SpruceMoose

Yes but BDS needed an excuse to have yet another tiresome dig at Stokie. #BeQuiet


Absolutely pathetic response driven by your inaccurate perception.

"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
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This virus thing on 23:06 - Dec 28 with 1890 viewsSpruceMoose

This virus thing on 23:01 - Dec 28 by BanksterDebtSlave

Absolutely pathetic response driven by your inaccurate perception.


Oh please. You've been sniffing Stokie's droppings for months now. That he hasn't replied to your attempts to bait him, not even once, must be driving you mad!

Let it go mate. Move on. Enjoy the benefits of anarchist homeownership. You'll be happier!

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This virus thing on 23:19 - Dec 28 with 1860 viewsEireannach_gorm

I believe a small dose of common sense will protect us from all viruses. Clearly an airborne virus can be defended against by wearing a mask. The people air purifiers that use HEPA filters and UV light actually remove the virus from the environment. Being outdoors in the open means the virus is dispersed and is less likely to infect.

So sensible and unselfish people wear a mask confined spaces or where there is a concentration of people. Also where people are immune compromised clearly there is a requirement for mask wearing. If there is a loved one who is in this situation, an air purifier is a good investment ( works for the Flu as well ). Out in the open there is less of a risk so there is no necessity for a mask.

It's not rocket science.
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This virus thing on 23:59 - Dec 28 with 1799 viewsBlueBadger

This virus thing on 18:03 - Dec 28 by GlasgowBlue

Surely we want to build up natural immunity? Otherwise the next generation are going to be pretty damn sickly.


Reminding you all here that vaccines ARE 'natural immunity' A shortcut to it.

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This virus thing on 00:14 - Dec 29 with 1784 viewsSpruceMoose

This virus thing on 23:59 - Dec 28 by BlueBadger

Reminding you all here that vaccines ARE 'natural immunity' A shortcut to it.


It's depressing that after all this time some people just can't get their heads around this VERY basic information, and instead they think they're making some kind of big brained point every time they regurgitate it.

I had a mobile morgue parked outside my house for a year but a least I could draw the curtains. For a fella like you, working at the coal face, it must just make you absolutely insane.

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This virus thing on 00:43 - Dec 29 with 1721 viewsBlueBadger

This virus thing on 00:14 - Dec 29 by SpruceMoose

It's depressing that after all this time some people just can't get their heads around this VERY basic information, and instead they think they're making some kind of big brained point every time they regurgitate it.

I had a mobile morgue parked outside my house for a year but a least I could draw the curtains. For a fella like you, working at the coal face, it must just make you absolutely insane.


Plus, you know, prevention is better than cure.

Particularly if, say, you pass on a nasty dose to a vulnerable friend, relative or stranger.

And even mild doses of covid will massively increase your chances of potentially fatal clots and cardiac complications, for example.
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This virus thing on 00:48 - Dec 29 with 1710 viewsBlueBadger

This virus thing on 16:59 - Dec 28 by BanksterDebtSlave

"People would really benefit from wearing a mask while they're out an about,"

Or avoid going out into confined spaces when really poorly.


Or, just do both. Neither will actually hurt you. Unless you're some kind of massive fanny.

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This virus thing on 00:52 - Dec 29 with 1709 viewsBlueBadger

This virus thing on 16:54 - Dec 28 by BanksterDebtSlave

That just reads like you wanting people to have reduced natural immunity and that if masks had not been worn we would now be more resilient.


You know how modern anarchism is big on communities working together collectively for the common good? Mask wearing and getting your jabs are two of those things.

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This virus thing on 01:42 - Dec 29 with 1656 viewsXYZ

This virus thing on 17:18 - Dec 28 by blueprint

Thank you. If anyone is failing to shift it do not feel bad about calling the Doctor. He told me there is so much going around but the antibiotics tend to take affect in a day or so. I hate calling them as they have enough crap going on but after 12 days and feeling progressively worse I gave in.


Weird doctor suggesting that antibiotics have any effect on a virus.

Did you check his qualifications?
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This virus thing on 07:28 - Dec 29 with 1568 viewsGlasgowBlue

This virus thing on 23:59 - Dec 28 by BlueBadger

Reminding you all here that vaccines ARE 'natural immunity' A shortcut to it.


Indeed. I’d encourage everybody to get their Covid and flu jobs at every opportunity. And fur that matter, every other available vaccine that prevents you catching any other illness.

Autumn Covid vaccination by GlasgowBlue 22 Sep 2022 10:44
There are less deaths and infections in no small part to the vaccination programme. Get you jag mate.



But I didn’t think we were discussing either Covid or the flu, but this rather nasty virus that everyone seems to be picking up at the moment, that hasn’t been identified and doesn’t appear to be fatal or have a vaccine available as a means of prevention.

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This virus thing on 07:45 - Dec 29 with 1531 viewsEly_Blue

This virus thing on 01:42 - Dec 29 by XYZ

Weird doctor suggesting that antibiotics have any effect on a virus.

Did you check his qualifications?


I have just got over this nasty “thing” that has got hold of me for getting on a month, when I explained this to the doctor and that the cough had not shifted he suggested that I had fought the original virus but then picked up a secondary bacterial infection whilst my immune system was low, hence why he prescribed me antibiotics which have now cleared it up completely.

I’m guessing this is what was meant by that post

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This virus thing on 08:47 - Dec 29 with 1452 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

This virus thing on 22:51 - Dec 28 by DJR

The following article suggests that staying at home rather than masks (or social distancing) can reduce immunity.

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-staying-home-immune-system-idUSKBN2

The article focuses on the psychological aspects of isolation but perhaps things like lack of fresh air and exercise and too many calories haven't helped either.
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Nothing clear cut it would seem.
Just found this so sharing for anyone curious....
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2022/nov/19/does-exposure-to-cold-and-flu-vi

.....suggestion in there that covid itself reduces the functioning of our immune systems as a side effect and also that....

"On the other hand, zero exposure to disease-causing pathogens isn’t necessarily good for us either. After Covid restrictions were lifted there was a surge in cases of respiratory syncytial virus — a common cause of acute lower respiratory infections in young children. “Usually, it is a winter virus, but after people started mixing again we saw lots of children with the virus during all seasons,” said Prof Pablo Murcia, a virologist at the University of Glasgow.

Exposure, little and often, may help to refresh the immune system’s memories of commonly circulating bugs, as well as updating them with information about new variants."

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This virus thing on 08:48 - Dec 29 with 1452 viewsblueprint

This virus thing on 01:42 - Dec 29 by XYZ

Weird doctor suggesting that antibiotics have any effect on a virus.

Did you check his qualifications?


Ok , so it may not have been a virus but instead a bacterial infection. Nobody likes a smart arse.
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