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This virus thing 14:22 - Dec 28 with 15055 viewsgtsb1966

I probably know more people who have had/got it than haven't had it at all. Absolute barsteward of a lingerer too. Personally got it a month ago but still it keeps coming back mildy. So many people with coughs.
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This virus thing on 17:23 - Jan 3 with 1536 viewsRyorry

This virus thing on 16:09 - Jan 3 by jeera

I think it was Rhod Gilbert's wife who was saying that on a recent visit to the hospital (of all places) there were people sitting there coughing away, many mask-less.

In A&E I think she said but open to correction.

It's not hard is it really.


Another of Johnson's genius ideas.

Remove mandatory mask-wearing in NHS buildings.

In the autumn booster-jab centre I went to, the building was 95% filled with 65+year-olds, but none of the volunteers, medics or staff were wearing masks (about 50% of patients were).

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This virus thing on 17:30 - Jan 3 with 1501 viewsThisIsMyUsername

This virus thing on 17:23 - Jan 3 by Ryorry

Another of Johnson's genius ideas.

Remove mandatory mask-wearing in NHS buildings.

In the autumn booster-jab centre I went to, the building was 95% filled with 65+year-olds, but none of the volunteers, medics or staff were wearing masks (about 50% of patients were).


To be fair after being forced to wear one at work all day, every day, for months (18-24 as best my memory serves me), you can't blame them for choosing to no longer wear one once it wasn't mandatory.

As a physio when we were told we no longer had to wear a mask a few months ago it was a fantastic feeling. It had really become a horrible part of being at work.

A few people still chose to wear one for whatever personal reason.

It lasted about a month before being reinstated but luckily I left at the end of the same week.
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This virus thing on 17:33 - Jan 3 with 1486 viewsRyorry

This virus thing on 17:30 - Jan 3 by ThisIsMyUsername

To be fair after being forced to wear one at work all day, every day, for months (18-24 as best my memory serves me), you can't blame them for choosing to no longer wear one once it wasn't mandatory.

As a physio when we were told we no longer had to wear a mask a few months ago it was a fantastic feeling. It had really become a horrible part of being at work.

A few people still chose to wear one for whatever personal reason.

It lasted about a month before being reinstated but luckily I left at the end of the same week.
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Most of the staff at that centre (don't know about others) weren't full-time NHS workers though. And most of the patients going were in the older, therefore more vulnerable, grouping.

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This virus thing on 17:37 - Jan 3 with 1464 viewsThisIsMyUsername

This virus thing on 17:33 - Jan 3 by Ryorry

Most of the staff at that centre (don't know about others) weren't full-time NHS workers though. And most of the patients going were in the older, therefore more vulnerable, grouping.


I suppose at a booster centre they should have thought more about it regardless, as like you say there were more of the most vulnerable going in.

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This virus thing on 18:20 - Jan 3 with 1408 viewsLord_Lucan

This virus thing on 17:30 - Jan 3 by ThisIsMyUsername

To be fair after being forced to wear one at work all day, every day, for months (18-24 as best my memory serves me), you can't blame them for choosing to no longer wear one once it wasn't mandatory.

As a physio when we were told we no longer had to wear a mask a few months ago it was a fantastic feeling. It had really become a horrible part of being at work.

A few people still chose to wear one for whatever personal reason.

It lasted about a month before being reinstated but luckily I left at the end of the same week.
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My daughter and her colleagues were only about two weeks ago advised they could work without masks having had to wear them since the whole thing kicked off!

It also means the elderly dementia residents don't now think they are about to have major surgery every timer someone walks in their room.

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This virus thing on 18:42 - Jan 3 with 1369 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

This virus thing on 16:37 - Dec 30 by StokieBlue

As you say, we should always follow the science.

China have only given over 1000 samples for genetic sequencing, there are millions of new cases a day, I don't particularly trust the Chinese authorities to provide data in a reliable way.

In reality it's unlikely a nasty mutation will happen, it would take something like an immune-supressed patient in a rural location where they don't get good enough medical care to incubate the virus for a longer time allowing it to optimise within the body (essentially what scientists think happened with Omicron). Even then it's not going to be a huge concern unless it starts infecting the lungs again whilst keeping the transmissibility of Omicron, something which is not very probable.

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Is that as long as it isn't South African scientists and medics as they pointed out early on that Omicron was affecting the upper respiratory tract. When this was pointed out by a couple of people on here guess who was leading the dismissive replies.

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This virus thing on 18:44 - Jan 3 with 1363 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

This virus thing on 16:17 - Jan 3 by SpruceMoose

Going to work and footy is ok though, right? Wouldn't want to be told to 'man up' because you didn't go.


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This virus thing on 18:46 - Jan 3 with 1347 viewsSpruceMoose

This virus thing on 18:44 - Jan 3 by BanksterDebtSlave

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This virus thing on 18:47 - Jan 3 with 1333 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

This virus thing on 18:46 - Jan 3 by SpruceMoose



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This virus thing on 20:52 - Jan 3 with 1235 viewsThisIsMyUsername

This virus thing on 18:20 - Jan 3 by Lord_Lucan

My daughter and her colleagues were only about two weeks ago advised they could work without masks having had to wear them since the whole thing kicked off!

It also means the elderly dementia residents don't now think they are about to have major surgery every timer someone walks in their room.


Communication could be a nightmare at times with older patients. No one's fault of cause.

Must be really horrible for those with dementia, or other conditions such as autism.

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This virus thing on 08:34 - Jan 4 with 1082 viewsGlasgowBlue

This virus thing on 17:23 - Jan 3 by Ryorry

Another of Johnson's genius ideas.

Remove mandatory mask-wearing in NHS buildings.

In the autumn booster-jab centre I went to, the building was 95% filled with 65+year-olds, but none of the volunteers, medics or staff were wearing masks (about 50% of patients were).


Same genius idea from Sturgeon in Scotland

https://www.gov.scot/news/facemasks-no-longer-recommended-in-social-care/

And same genius idea from Drakeford in Wales.

https://ctmuhb.nhs.wales/news/latest-news/an-update-on-wearing-a-face-mask-in-ou

I’ve had a couple of hospital appointments and a few visits and used the common sense approach to wear a mask.
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This virus thing on 09:09 - Jan 4 with 1038 viewsDJR

This virus thing on 08:34 - Jan 4 by GlasgowBlue

Same genius idea from Sturgeon in Scotland

https://www.gov.scot/news/facemasks-no-longer-recommended-in-social-care/

And same genius idea from Drakeford in Wales.

https://ctmuhb.nhs.wales/news/latest-news/an-update-on-wearing-a-face-mask-in-ou

I’ve had a couple of hospital appointments and a few visits and used the common sense approach to wear a mask.
[Post edited 4 Jan 2023 8:35]


Sturgeon was always more cautious than Johnson, and I assume the funding for NHS etc masks in Scotland was cut as it would have been in England.
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This virus thing on 13:15 - Jan 4 with 951 viewsJoey_Joe_Joe_Junior

This virus thing on 08:47 - Dec 31 by DJR

As it turns out, the Government has imposed restrictions but I am inclined to think this is because it is popular, not because it follows the science, given the following (on BBC website) from the man involved with the Oxford Covid vaccine.

"Prof Andrew Pollard, chairman of the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI), said the restrictions are unlikely to prevent new Covid variants reaching the UK and it was difficult to know what impact such a move would have here.

He told BBC News: "Trying to ban a virus by adjusting what we do with travel has already been shown not to work very well.

"We've seen that with the bans on travel from various countries during the pandemic, that hasn't stopped those viruses travelling around the world eventually."

He presumably says this because pre-flight tests for direct flights from China will not prevent infected Chinese people arriving here by other routes, or Chinese people infecting other people who arrive.
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Are people still figuring this out? Despite being attacked on here it's pretty obvious the data backed up what I was saying. The follow the science brigade have ignored their own advice on international travel for literally years at this point. Unless Covid is clever enough to know your passport/residency, wait until the restrictions come in place to decide whether to infect you and even know if you've taken a layover from somewhere else etc.

The variant that is ripping through China is the same prevalent strain in the West and given the numbers of Chinese traveling this is really achieving very little, unless you think Covid isn't in the UK/EU/US anymore.

We are in a much different place now. Just focus on sequencing to keep an eye on things globally and share accurate data.

Really little point doing this dance anymore. China has had the toughest lockdowns in the world and now it's the country we need to restrict because it's own failed domestic policies.
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This virus thing on 14:39 - Jan 4 with 861 viewsLord_Lucan

This virus thing on 13:15 - Jan 4 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior

Are people still figuring this out? Despite being attacked on here it's pretty obvious the data backed up what I was saying. The follow the science brigade have ignored their own advice on international travel for literally years at this point. Unless Covid is clever enough to know your passport/residency, wait until the restrictions come in place to decide whether to infect you and even know if you've taken a layover from somewhere else etc.

The variant that is ripping through China is the same prevalent strain in the West and given the numbers of Chinese traveling this is really achieving very little, unless you think Covid isn't in the UK/EU/US anymore.

We are in a much different place now. Just focus on sequencing to keep an eye on things globally and share accurate data.

Really little point doing this dance anymore. China has had the toughest lockdowns in the world and now it's the country we need to restrict because it's own failed domestic policies.
[Post edited 4 Jan 2023 13:16]


They used a cr4p vaccine to be fair.

Also - all this talk of testing Chinese only relates to direct flights I believe.

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